Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #90

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  • #921
In addition to the trajectory of movement...the defense pointed out the speed of the movement. I think both would need to be considered in an analysis. I know when I am looking at the Find My Phone/Friend on my iphone generally if the person is driving and in good cell phone service area the movement is smooth and at a pace consistent with the mph of the vehicle or it shows a static location and approximate if not totally accurate address. If the phone is in a very weak reception areas it will bounce around really fast and finally settle on a location sometimes less accurate. We are probably 15 miles north and 15 south from towers and 25 miles east and 50 miles west of towers with obstructions in all but the west. I have to believe that data retrieved other than directly from the phone in theory should be more accurate but when this rapid movement and speed were brought up at the preliminary I was like OK....I want to understand this better since I had observed it in phone apps. This is largely contributing to my unwillingness to settle on the conclusion that he was racing around at top speed chasing Suzanne. There may have been movement and I would guess yes he came home, and was on the move in or around the house as we all do sometimes around our homes, but it may not have been the movement captured in the data. Data forensics has gotten very interesting but it can also lead to false assumptions in other than expert hands is my guess.

I measured the distances and did the math.
BM is going 5 mph, a medium running speed around and through the house.
 
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Want to add that I too appreciate @Momofthreeboys, our own Sgt. Friday. We may not agree on much about this case, but you're willing to stay in the mix and reconsider as the info comes and that's all I ask of anyone.
Ha ha now the the "boys" are fully fledged adult men maybe I need to change my user name to Sgt. Friday :-)
 
  • #924
Interesting. Pp 35-36 (37-38)

The mystery second device... Barry used it twice on MD. At 8:47am and 11:47am.

At 8:46am Barry entered the hotel.

He was in and out several times .... but

...he left his hotel room at 11:46am.

That can't be a coincidence.

(Also perhaps worth noting, he used that device on 5/5, presumably while Suzanne was driving MM2 to the campsite. Things that make you go hmmmmm.... because one day later, Suzanne says she is done and three days later she is dead. What happened on 5/5???????)

What was he doing with/on that device????

Monkey business? (Monkey app -- is on The List)

JMO

Colorado Judicial Branch - Chaffee - Cases of Interest - People of the State of Colorado v. Barry Lee Morphew
The use of the mystery second device at 8:47 am and 11:47 am on MD, when BM entered his hotel at 8:46 and left his hotel room at 11:46 motivate me to suspect a couple of possibilities:
  • he has a camera in or on his truck and is keeping an eye on the vehicle while he is in the hotel away from it; or
  • he has a device planted with one of his daughters - on her phone or on something she has with her - and he is using it to keep track of their location as they travel back that morning. (IIRC, it is only about 15 minutes after that when he calls MM1 to urge her to call SM for MD).
 
  • #925
I wonder how that might play out with the jury. I'm a mathematician, so I'll simplify my thoughts in math speak. Some jurors might think "poor grammar = stupid" and "articulate = smart", but then a different set of jurors might think "poor grammar = my kind of guy" and "articulate = slick, untrustworthy".

In you were the defense, what type of juror would you look for? Also, since this is the first true crime story I have followed, does the prosecution plan their presentation based on the type of jury they believe will be selected? How much time is there between jury selection and the actual trial?
If i were the defense, I'd want a bunch of non educated men on the jury. I'd want people who have a similar background and worldview as Barry.

The prosecution should have this all mapped out beforehand, but I'm sure they would adjust if they felt like the jury wasn't getting it, or was bored or something.

Opening statements follow jury selection, and that seems to come down to time. So sometimes it's the same day, other times it's the next day.
 
  • #926
In addition to the trajectory of movement...the defense pointed out the speed of the movement. I think both would need to be considered in an analysis. I know when I am looking at the Find My Phone/Friend on my iphone generally if the person is driving and in good cell phone service area the movement is smooth and at a pace consistent with the mph of the vehicle or it shows a static location and approximate if not totally accurate address. If the phone is in a very weak reception areas it will bounce around really fast and finally settle on a location sometimes less accurate. We are probably 15 miles north and 15 south from towers and 25 miles east and 50 miles west of towers with obstructions in all but the west. I have to believe that data retrieved other than directly from the phone in theory should be more accurate but when this rapid movement and speed were brought up at the preliminary I was like OK....I want to understand this better since I had observed it in phone apps. This is largely contributing to my unwillingness to settle on the conclusion that he was racing around at top speed chasing Suzanne. There may have been movement and I would guess yes he came home, and was on the move in or around the house as we all do sometimes around our homes, but it may not have been the movement captured in the data. Data forensics has gotten very interesting but it can also lead to false assumptions in other than expert hands is my guess.

The trouble is BM corroborated the movement in his statement to investigators.
 
  • #927
The prosecution is doing just fine. As I've said before, five minutes into day one the defense made it clear how they were going to play it, delay, deflect, confuse. The best strategy is to play it cool until trial so the defense has no idea how you plan to come at them. I think Lindsey set it into motion and Stanley is sticking with it.

Part of the reason E&N are so wildly tossing accusations is because they don't know what the DA plans to hammer at trial. I see them as flailing against a prosecution that has given nothing of their strategy away. It's hilariously their own fault.
 
  • #928
I anticipate the defense trying to derail the expert witnesses. Hammering home lost points on fabric softeners, soup recipes and other inane angles with zero bearing on the case. There will however be dramatic timing, lively table slaps and great wasted time.

They will strive to get experts to say they didn't investigate or don't know the answer. No matter that it'll be outside their scope.

Where they are low on substance, they'll try to manufacture appearance.

Sir, have you done any investigation into other possible suspects in the last 6 months? No? No!! Table slap. Indignant harrrrruuummmmmppppphhhhhh.

Never mind he retired a year ago....

JMO
 
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I agree that E & N are already making attempts to stir up reasonable doubt. Look at how much time we've spent on the DNA on the glove box? I would never claim to have more than a layperson's understanding about DNA, but after following cases for decades, and seeing how DNA use has developed, I know the partial DNA on the glove box has nothing at all to do with Suzanne's murder. I know that touch DNA is literally everywhere. But I spent a lot of time thinking about it, and not thinking about all the damning actions and words that came straight from BM or those scratches on his arm, or the frantic running about the house or the hundreds of other things that point only to him.

All E & N have to do is convince one juror that one of these distractions could be possible.

The prosecution really needs to have a tight case and be prepared for all of this "Look over here, not over there."

MOO
 
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New article (and new color pics) from Lauren:

Court releases evidence in Suzanne Morphew investigation from Barry Morphew’s preliminary hearing | FOX21 News Colorado

ETA: Do not miss all of Suzanne's text messages that were released in this article. You have to scroll over to read them all.
I think it was super kind of the sex offender/kidnapper to leave all that cash after entering her car to touch the glovebox.

Because as we know, after you kidnap someone off their bicycle, you return to the house, enter the garage, and leave a DNA sample.

It's like a rule or something.

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  • #933
Very interesting. Suzanne felt like Barry was "supporting someone else."

And what do ya know, he is doing that very thing now, and has been since shortly "after" her disappearance

Surely, just a coincidence.

ETA: She calls him "unstable" over and over to SO (in the text messages).
 

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  • #934
Suzanne felt "anxious" when Barry would bring up "building a house," but what...a week or so (I can't remember the exact timeline) after she went missing, he bought a lot to build a house?
 

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If i were the defense, I'd want a bunch of non educated men on the jury. I'd want people who have a similar background and worldview as Barry.

The prosecution should have this all mapped out beforehand, but I'm sure they would adjust if they felt like the jury wasn't getting it, or was bored or something.

Opening statements follow jury selection, and that seems to come down to time. So sometimes it's the same day, other times it's the next day.
Why non educated men? Wouldn't matter if they were college educated or not. The expression guys guy still has a distinct meaning. I'd be looking at the shoes a male potential wearer is wearing and the belt....tells alot about a man in my opinion and they have no idea. Build and education is secondary. Almost every guys guy or man's man I know has a college education and for the most part successful financially but they clearly prefer to hang with other guys and tolerate "couples stuff". There are of course guys guy that aren't college educated but there are "tells" for sure that don't require asking if they hunt (they all don't) or if they are in construction (they all aren't). Barry wears a suit well but he isn't wearing Cole Haan tassle loafers :-) to court.
 
  • #936
My spellchecker takes issue with Barry's inability to pronounce the G on a present participle.

A sampling of Barry's redneck speak AA quotes.

“... everybody jumped on, beatin’ the freakin’ crap out of me.”
“They had already crossed. They were in the road when I stopped in the road before I got to fifty, they were in the road, crossing, and then they cross the road, and by the time I get up there, they’re already crossin’ the mountain. I mean, I don’t stop on fifty, I keep going. I’m just watchin’ to see where they’re going. I get to Garfield, turn around, go right to 285.”
“I know that you took my bed sheets. I know, I didn’t even know until after the fact that — sheets were off her bed upstairs. I mean, what a coincidence. Her sheets are off her bed and then all of the sudden, it’s like, ‘That’s where he did it. And the sheets are gone. He washed ’em. Blah, blah, blah.’ I had no idea they were off. Suzanne was obviously washin’ the sheets because REDACTED was with Suzanne68 and REDACTED and they were gonna stay there that night and Suzanne’s takin’ sheets off, and washin’, gettin’ things ready.”
“I’m tellin’ you, I’m telllin’ you right now I’ve shot two deer with my tranq gun, ’cause I used to raise deer, and I collect horns, and I’ll tell you exactly what I did.”
“I’m just tellin’ you right now, I’m a redneck. And, I’m, the first thing I thought of when I came here and saw deer in my yard with big horns, I’m like, ‘I’m getting’ them horns.’ Not gonna kill it. Not gonna poach it. But I guarantee if DNR knew I did that, they’d slap my wrist pretty hard.”
“Because it looks like if I did something and ripped the sheet and got blood on them and ripped ’em off and washed ’em- to me, lookin’ at it through a detective’s eyes, that would look a little suspicious.”
“Yeah, and, urn, even the outside cameras, she thought that, ‘Oh you’re watchin’, or your girlfriend is watchin’ you on the outside cameras.’ I said, ‘Honey, the outside cameras don’t even work.’ And, but she was just certain that if like, I was outside with her and doing something in the yard, she would say, ‘I know she’s watchin’ you.’ Just stupid stuff, and I’m like, that’s why these, the only reason that these fights happen is because she’s accusin’ me. And I never understood them until now; she’s accusing me because she wants to justify her relationship.”

He turns it on and off, maybe he thinks it makes him sound folksy, but I think he lays it on thick for investigators and cameras.
Are these videos or audio tape? I'm reminding myself that E&N intend to play every minute of this for the jury.

That way, they get him and his story (stories) into the record without having him sworn in, nervous, trying to remember which version he wants to tell and how to respond to the hard questions under cross examination.

Will the jury at least get to see his face as he's making these statements?
 
  • #937
Are these videos or audio tape? I'm reminding myself that E&N intend to play every minute of this for the jury.

That way, they get him and his story (stories) into the record without having him sworn in, nervous, trying to remember which version he wants to tell and how to respond to the hard questions under cross examination.

Will the jury at least get to see his face as he's making these statements?
From some of the images in the AA, it does appear that body cameras (or something similar) were used.

So they'll be seeing his face for sure.
 
  • #938
Is "Sal" a typo? I think it is.

JMO
 
  • #939
Now we know how "Suzanne picked the house" came about. IMO the alternative was to build a house.

JMO
 
  • #940
Very interesting. Suzanne felt like Barry was "supporting someone else."

And what do ya know, he is doing that very thing now, and has been since shortly "after" her disappearance

Surely, just a coincidence.

ETA: She calls him "unstable" over and over to SO (in the text messages).
Suzanne calls Barry unstable, and Barry shows that he's unstable.

Pointing a gun at his head.

Threatening suicide (in deleted texts).

Apparently threatening to jump out of a moving vehicle.

So mature.
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