Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #90

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  • #1,001
I am very disappointed in both judges right now. The first for allowing bail and for Barry to be around his daughters. The second for giving him right to see them in Gunnison. They can read as well as we can and see the manipulation and gaslighting Barry uses.

And for you legal eagles who say the judges must follow the law, I have no legal basis to disagree with you. But a wise judge knows how to use discretion in all matters.

King Solomon comes to mind.
 
  • #1,002
I wonder how that might play out with the jury. I'm a mathematician, so I'll simplify my thoughts in math speak. Some jurors might think "poor grammar = stupid" and "articulate = smart", but then a different set of jurors might think "poor grammar = my kind of guy" and "articulate = slick, untrustworthy".

In you were the defense, what type of juror would you look for? Also, since this is the first true crime story I have followed, does the prosecution plan their presentation based on the type of jury they believe will be selected? How much time is there between jury selection and the actual trial?
There's a persistent myth out there, that good attorneys can stack a jury with favorable jurors. 'Taint so. Both sides strike jurors they believe are unfavorable. The result is a jury that favors neither party. Scientific studies have shown that after all the procedural steps to assure an unbiased jury, the twelve originally seated were no more biased or prejudiced than the jury that tried the case.

I still have some notes from a course I took in forensic psychology. One of the subjects we studied was jury selection and jury decisions. One major takeaway was that when the evidence is strong, juror personalities, biases, and prejudices don't influence the outcome. Another finding of several studies was that neither experienced trial attorneys nor "scientific" jury consultants were significantly better than random chance at detecting bias and prejudice through the jury selection process.

In civil trials, where the evidence can be more equivocal, some juror characteristics have been shown to have a small effect on the outcome:

1. The hypothesis that jurors who are similar to the defendant will empathize and identify with him has been studied only for one characteristic: race. Although there's some evidence to support the hypothesis, it's not solely determinative of the outcome. There's also evidence that jurors who are similar to the defendant are harsher in their judgment of the defendant. BM, be careful what you wish for.

2. How a juror explains what happens to herself can affect how she decides an equivocal case. For example, jurors who believe what you get in life is the result of your own abilities and efforts (and similarly, that you get what you deserve) tend to "blame the victim." Jurors who see their outcomes as due to forces outside themselves, such as luck or more powerful people, are more likely to sympathize with the victim of misconduct.

3. Authoritarian personalities are generally more likely than other personality types to convict (except when the defendant is an authority figure).

There are juror questionnaires designed to get at these attitudinal factors, and I expect both sides will be using them for whatever advantage they can get, however small.
 
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It is very disappointing that the judge must have read this and seen that BM was capable of manipulating his daughters emotions for his own benefit and yet he still allowed BM to extend his bail conditions to visit them at their home.
A judge isn't going to make a decision based on one side's text message to a friend. The judge sees them in court with their dad. Theoretically the prosecution is charged for looking out for them also as "victims". And I"m sure Barry's lawyers are watching out for them. Everyone is watching out for them and I highly doubt anyone is going to do anything that is dangerous or detrimental to them.
 
  • #1,004
Wouldn’t he have to know it was there? Wow. He sure had to cover a lot of ground just to have Suzanne hmmm? Oh and staging a bike and helmet.
He'd have to know the combination, as surely a man who has been known to bury money, would remember to lock his safe.
 
  • #1,005
I am very disappointed in both judges right now. The first for allowing bail and for Barry to be around his daughters. The second for giving him right to see them in Gunnison. They can read as well as we can and see the manipulation and gaslighting Barry uses.

And for you legal eagles who say the judges must follow the law, I have no legal basis to disagree with you. But a wise judge knows how to use discretion in all matters.

King Solomon comes to mind.
I think it's hard for judges to make these decisions sometimes, in terms of the internal conflicting emotions. But it is vital to our system of justice that they operate as impartial decision makers, applying legal standards and criteria without ulterior motives. The judge cannot impose restrictions that assume BM is a danger to his daughters, who tell him in effect that they have nothing to fear from their father.
 
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There are, but those can easily be explained away due to the nature of his job.

The scratches on his arm? Not so much.

Especially considering he's already claimed they were made by branches.

His left hand, in the middle there's redness and a scabbed over bit - it makes me think of a scald/burn, on the same hand, there's a scab by middle finger and slightly larger nail sized scab by index finger, it looks like there's very faint tiny scabs connecting the 2? jmo
Yes a lot of them would be explained away due to nature of his work, arm ones much harder.
It's very sobering to think of what some of those scratches are/could be caused by though.
Ebm
 
  • #1,007
Ohhh, is that the 'chipmunk' gun? :(
 
  • #1,008
I think it's hard for judges to make these decisions sometimes, in terms of the internal conflicting emotions. But it is vital to our system of justice that they operate as impartial decision makers, applying legal standards and criteria without ulterior motives. The judge cannot impose restrictions that assume BM is a danger to his daughters, who tell him in effect that they have nothing to fear from their father.

Actually kings and judges have been doing this since the beginning of time. I’m really astounded at judges who make decisions based on personal feelings or personal politics every single day. Regardless of fairness and law. That cannot be denied. .
 
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Actually kings and judges have been doing this since the beginning of time. I’m really astounded at judges who make decisions based on personal feelings or personal politics every single day. Regardless of fairness and law. That cannot be denied. .
Fair point. But IMO this is not the norm.
 
  • #1,010
Is anyone else just a little dazed by the portrait of Barry that's emerging? Not the blustering, answer-for-everything Barry that we've seen from the beginning, but the godly family man who seems to think that it was Suzanne's job to adore him. Meet his needs. Accept his explanations. Live in some kind of childlike gratitude for the money he provided for her without question. He refuses discussions, leaves when he decides he's upset, makes himself unreachable. I think he believes he did what he had to do.

I feel sick.

JMO
 
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His left hand, in the middle there's redness and a scabbed over bit - it makes me think of a scald/burn, on the same hand, there's a scab by middle finger and slightly larger nail sized scab by index finger, it looks like there's very faint tiny scabs connecting the 2? jmo
Yes a lot of them would be explained away due to nature of his work, arm ones much harder.
It's very sobering to think of what some of those scratches are/could be caused by though.
Ebm

Thing is, Barry himself didn't say occupational hazard. He blamed Suzanne. The hike, the search.

Oh, I agree. Those scratches are directly associated with Suzanne.

I think, when Barry was presented with Suzanne's last proof of life photo, the picture he saw was more personal. In his head. As he last saw her. As the light dimmed.

Those scratches tell the story.

JMO
 
  • #1,012
I see more than just an everyday couple at odds.
I see a woman locked in an abusive marriage. Locked into a marriage with a husband who only valued her when she was serving him and attending to his needs.
I see a woman who by her own words came into a marriage as “a broken girl just looking for stability”. She looked to her husband for emotional support and was only made to further feel that she was “ less than”. As far as stability, she unwittingly married a "chaos maker".
Her texts are heart breaking but not surprising. Her husband was a master manipulator who constantly brow beat her by his actions, all the while telling her she was the love of his life. Cognitive dissonance.
How was she to know what to believe, maybe if she was just a better wife... The joy of her daughters and their upbringing, I suspect kept her distracted from seeing him clearly for years.
Fast forward...Suzanne was finally coming into her own as a whole person. Getting "ballsy" as the neanderthal opined. She was putting her broken pieces together. Awkwardly but with intention. She was finding her voice - shedding that meek child identity her sister described.
My heart breaks time and time again reading these threads. She indicates that she is afraid to be alone with BM but she clearly had not yet understood the true darkness inside that monster.
 
  • #1,013
Is anyone else just a little dazed by the portrait of Barry that's emerging? Not the blustering, answer-for-everything Barry that we've seen from the beginning, but the godly family man who seems to think that it was Suzanne's job to adore him. Meet his needs. Accept his explanations. Live in some kind of childlike gratitude for the money he provided for her without question. He refuses discussions, leaves when he decides he's upset, makes himself unreachable. I think he believes he did what he had to do.

I feel sick.

JMO
Oh yes, even Suzanne would agree that "even if one life was saved, it was worth it" according to BARE himself during that pathetic video plea.
 
  • #1,014
I could be totally "misremembering," but I thought that Sal was the long-time rich friend of Barry's from Indiana who may have matched his $100k reward money and also bought Suzanne's vehicle.

Someone correct me if I am wrong!

JMO.
The only friend of that sort is named Russell -- and why I thought "Sal" was a typo. JMO
 
  • #1,015
I could be totally "misremembering," but I thought that Sal was the long-time rich friend of Barry's from Indiana who may have matched his $100k reward money and also bought Suzanne's vehicle.

Someone correct me if I am wrong!

JMO.
Yes, this is what I remember also - Sal in Indiana - Barry's benefactor buddy- who IMO may be helping out with costs of the trial etc - There seems to be so much yet not revealed
 
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I see more than just an everyday couple at odds.
I see a woman locked in an abusive marriage. Locked into a marriage with a husband who only valued her when she was serving him and attending to his needs.
I see a woman who by her own words came into a marriage as “a broken girl just looking for stability”. She looked to her husband for emotional support and was only made to further feel that she was “ less than”. As far as stability, she unwittingly married a "chaos maker".
Her texts are heart breaking but not surprising. Her husband was a master manipulator who constantly brow beat her by his actions, all the while telling her she was the love of his life. Cognitive dissonance.
How was she to know what to believe, maybe if she was just a better wife... The joy of her daughters and their upbringing, I suspect kept her distracted from seeing him clearly for years.
Fast forward...Suzanne was finally coming into her own as a whole person. Getting "ballsy" as the neanderthal opined. She was putting her broken pieces together. Awkwardly but with intention. She was finding her voice - shedding that meek child identity her sister described.
My heart breaks time and time again reading these threads. She indicates that she is afraid to be alone with BM but she clearly had not yet understood the true darkness inside that monster.

Beautifully and perfectly written imo and bang on

Ebm
 
  • #1,017
The prosecution is doing just fine. As I've said before, five minutes into day one the defense made it clear how they were going to play it, delay, deflect, confuse. The best strategy is to play it cool until trial so the defense has no idea how you plan to come at them. I think Lindsey set it into motion and Stanley is sticking with it.

Part of the reason E&N are so wildly tossing accusations is because they don't know what the DA plans to hammer at trial. I see them as flailing against a prosecution that has given nothing of their strategy away. It's hilariously their own fault.

You don't think the case is won by pre-trial discovery motions?
 
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I see more than just an everyday couple at odds.
I see a woman locked in an abusive marriage. Locked into a marriage with a husband who only valued her when she was serving him and attending to his needs.
I see a woman who by her own words came into a marriage as “a broken girl just looking for stability”. She looked to her husband for emotional support and was only made to further feel that she was “ less than”. As far as stability, she unwittingly married a "chaos maker".
Her texts are heart breaking but not surprising. Her husband was a master manipulator who constantly brow beat her by his actions, all the while telling her she was the love of his life. Cognitive dissonance.
How was she to know what to believe, maybe if she was just a better wife... The joy of her daughters and their upbringing, I suspect kept her distracted from seeing him clearly for years.
Fast forward...Suzanne was finally coming into her own as a whole person. Getting "ballsy" as the neanderthal opined. She was putting her broken pieces together. Awkwardly but with intention. She was finding her voice - shedding that meek child identity her sister described.
My heart breaks time and time again reading these threads. She indicates that she is afraid to be alone with BM but she clearly had not yet understood the true darkness inside that monster.

OIP.-dIP0b3t1IjBnh0WFglwxwHaHa
 
  • #1,019
The Alanon book

In Suzanne's list of grievances it has 'wrote in Alanon' - wonder if LE had a read through it to see what Suzanne was referencing
 
  • #1,020
Voting by Mail?
@PaulaDC I apologize to you and any sleuthers who read "politics" into my earlier post,* excerpted below.

A poster asked another poster who had described mail-in voting, whether the mail-in ballots were in this country. My post provided factual info--- that the mail-in voting procedure under discussion was in Colorado, part of the USA.
If referencing California and providing link to state library about CA.'s many attempts to secede from the union since 1850 caused offense, again I'm sorry. Did not realize it would be seen as "politics and personal opinion" and did not intend to be. my2cts.

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Quoting from my earlier post, sbm bbm:
@genuineusa77 Colorado is still in part of the US, and afaik ;)no current threats to secede from the union.
Unlike some other states, say, California,* for ex.:rolleyes:
{{{.... @Seattle1 (Thank you ...) posted CO voting law info...}}
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"Breaking Up California: A History of Many Attempts...."
https://www.library.ca.gov/collections/online-exhibits/splitting-ca/
Just for clarity, what you're referencing with California are not attempts 'secede from the union,' they're almost all attempts to split the state into multiple states, say Northern and Southern California.
 
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