Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #91

[nyvictoria]

Yes, this!
I would never say cheating is okay. I don't believe it is. I also try to not see things as black and white and try to understand because situations do add context and understanding can explain vs just make blanket statements.

She was at a phase in life where her girls were almost grown. She gave her everything to them. We have heard zero reports that she was anything less than an amazing mother. She was about to be alone with Barry in the marriage/house. She beat cancer twice with the most recent one being in the previous 2 years. That has to make someone really consider their life, how short it is and wanting to make the most of what is left. She looked death in the face and that had to make her really feel like she didn't want to continue to live like that.

She tried leaving. It sounds like there was some financial control or abuse or manipulation going on. She knew about some shady business stuff. She knew he blew up and ignored her. She was isolated in Colorado and in the previous 2 months covid made that even more so.

I understand it. I don't think her cheating was trying to have her cake and eat it too. She was trying to leave Barry. She was trying to feel like she mattered to someone. She gained confidence from having someone show concern for her (even though it was an affair).

I do see this as somewhat different than someone having multiple affairs with anyone and everyone, always flirting or trying to get the attention of the opposite sex and just in general being disrespectful to their spouse. I think she tried and tried and tried and you can't be the only one trying. The way he speaks even after she was gone is awful. It sounds like he just wanted sex and that is all she was good for. He was the money supplier and she was the sex supplier.

Again, cheating is wrong, but there are very different motives involved and I can understand how what happened in her life lead to the one she was having.

And, to the very end of her life, IMO she was still trying to figure out whether the marriage could be saved. If Barry had made any attempt to be a decent husband and work with her to salvage their marriage, she probably would have given it another shot. Unfortunately, Barry was/is not a decent guy.

 

[Seattle1]

I'm curious if she was home when he busted the door frame or if she knew after the fact that he busted the door frame. If it happened the weekend they were camping then surely she would know it was like that before they left for their trip. The master bedroom was downstairs so I would think she saw that busted door frame or could say for sure it wasn't there before they went camping.

While MM2 could possibly help narrow down the timeline when the doorframe was busted, we do know LE already has a witness statement from the sellers that the door frame was intact when the Morphews took ownership.

 

[justtrish]

https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...est/21CR78/People Exhibits Prelim Hearing.pdf

This is the court posted documents for the prosecution. Just for others to see quickly. I don't know how to post pages here or clip part of it, but page 22 of this document shows some texts between Sheila and Suzanne. It is interesting in this exchange, he mentions that MM2 said something about getting a restraining order. This is so tough. I think she knows and I don't know why she supports her dad. Not at all attempting to speak badly of her. It's her dad and supporting him is well within her right even if she things he did do something. I just think MM2 saw and heard a lot more than MM1. She may feel conflicted. In these texts it seems as if she knows fully what her mom is dealing with. I hadn't see these particular texts before with on of the girls suggesting a restraining order. There is also some interesting texts in there (might be several pages before this one) that were exchanged in Sept 2019 where Suzanne mentions waiting for the house to settle and possibly that being in January. I think this is referencing the house in Indiana that didn't settle until after she was gone She was trying to leave and it seems she had very real financial concerns and was just waiting on things to get sorted out there.

 

[Boxer]

SM Wanted BM Home More?
@Boxer bbm sbm for focus. I've read multiple posts stating the bbm; it seems logical for ppl to say SM wanted him home more, but I'm curious about claim's origin.

What was the source? Did SM say this in those words?
Or did she hint at it (e.g., BM is so busy w VFD (or XYZ) these days)?
If so, in-person convo, phone convo, a text or email?
If so, when did she say it? To whom?
Did the person saying this say it directly to LE? If so, when?
And/or was it on SM's list of grievances?

Anyone? Thx in adv for a link.

IIRC it was after they moved to CO 6/1/18.
I will try to find the source.
Going around and around about BM being at the gym working out all the time is what I recall.

 

[marylamby]

I think he planned to go to his daughter’s graduation and perhaps live in Gunnison where he could still work in the Salida area but get out of the spotlight. I think the “running” thing was started by You Tubers and local LE. He was “leaving” IMO but not “running”.

I think thoughts of his planning to flee had a lot to do with liquidating all of his properties and LE surveillance. He also seemed to be packing up a trailer or something where he was only renting. I think those photos were on the DM.
If he'd made his way to the border or out of the country by whatever means, I doubt he'd have been found.

 

[mom2chloe]

So, just a part of the lying part is that:

He said he was asleep the evening of 5/9 and woke up on the morning on 5/10.

It really is that simple. IMO

 

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[marylamby]

So, I’m still waiting for someone to rise to the challenge and explain why BM lied and lied a lot and all his odd, bizarre behaviors on MDW 2020 and post SM “disappearance”, how all these BMism’s (for lack of better word) explains/adds up to someone else being responsible for harming SM/her demise.

I see people opining doubting the strength of the prosecution’s case before we even know all of what the prosecution has or what’s been gathered since BM’s arrest, and before hearing directly from witnesses, and some ever so subtly insinuating that Suzanne must be a liar because she didn’t tell SO about JL and was a terrible person for having an affair, deserved what she got, making excuses for BM but can’t explain why he lied if he had nothing to do with what happened to SM. Anyway, every time this question is posed, it is ignored. Noone has been able to put forth a theory of someone else being responsible that also adds up/explains all BM’s lies and other extremely odd behaviors. Why? Because imo, there is no rational or logical theory that explains someone else being responsible and explains all BM’s lies, odd behaviors etc. Simply put, it doesn’t add add up and most rational, logical, critically thinking person with a modicum of deductive reasoning ability knows BM is guilty as sin (just like his lawyers do imo), but for some reason it seems like some people would like nothing more than to see the prosecution fall flat on their face, lose at trial and see a murderer set free because imo they are either being deliberately obtuse, haven’t studied or read all the facts and evidence in this case and/or have such disdain for SM all the while feigning that they want justice for her while seemingly defending and making excuses for her obvious murderer, doubting the strength of prosecutions case before it even gets to court, and ever so subtly or in some cases not so subtly insinuating BM should not be held to account for what he did because SM deserved what she got for being an ‘awful person’ for ‘lying’ and having an affair. We are all imperfect humans and yes it is more than clear the M marriage was in shambles, ineffective communication (imo based on her texts to SO sounds like at least SM tried to communicate her feelings to BM and BM dismissed her stormed out leaving for days at a time?? shutting his phone off?? telling her oh yeah my battery will prob die while I’m gone?? Wtaf?? Who was he seeing because I don’t believe for a second he wasn’t involved with other/s either one day/night hookups or longer term dalliances, obviously all trust shot/lost. Just because LE hadn’t found any evidence YET (as of the writing of the AA) of BM dalliances, doesn’t mean he didn’t engage in any or that LE haven’t found evidence of it since the writing of the AA.
SM at least admitted to feeling partly responsible for the breakdown of the marriage, meanwhile BM told the FBI agents paraphrased, “she made me into a monster.” Typical N abuser not taking accountability and blaming someone else, typically their victim, for their bad choices/behaviors. Regardless of the troubled marriage, last I checked BM is alive and SM is the missing presumed deceased spouse who 3 days prior told BM she was done and whose footprint ceased within mere minutes of BM arriving home Saturday May 9, 2020, never to be heard from or seen again.

If BM “walks” as some seem to think he will and worse imo some also want him to, it would be one of the biggest, greatest travesties of justice I’ve ever seen, and may cause me to lose all faith in the US justice system. Lastly, shame on anyone claiming to be here for justice for Suzanne when clearly, just read between the lines and see that that is not the reason they are here at all. And before someone says it’s because people hate BM, no it has nothing to do with hating BM and everything to do with the fact that most people don’t like murderers and most rational, logical, critically thinking people that have followed this case since day one, followed the facts of the case can see via logical deduction that all roads and totality of evidence leads to one person and one person only who had the motive, means, and opportunity and something to gain from SM’s murder- the person whose initials suit him so well as he’s swimming in it, the one and only BM.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

THANK YOU for tactfully and eloquently saying what many of us know to be true.

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

So, I’m still waiting for someone to rise to the challenge and explain why BM lied and lied a lot and all his odd, bizarre behaviors on MDW 2020 and post SM “disappearance”, how all these BMism’s (for lack of better word) explains/adds up to someone else being responsible for harming SM/her demise.

I see people opining doubting the strength of the prosecution’s case before we even know all of what the prosecution has or what’s been gathered since BM’s arrest, and before hearing directly from witnesses, and some ever so subtly insinuating that Suzanne must be a liar because she didn’t tell SO about JL and was a terrible person for having an affair, deserved what she got, making excuses for BM but can’t explain why he lied if he had nothing to do with what happened to SM. Anyway, every time this question is posed, it is ignored. Noone has been able to put forth a theory of someone else being responsible that also adds up/explains all BM’s lies and other extremely odd behaviors. Why? Because imo, there is no rational or logical theory that explains someone else being responsible and explains all BM’s lies, odd behaviors etc. Simply put, it doesn’t add add up and most rational, logical, critically thinking person with a modicum of deductive reasoning ability knows BM is guilty as sin (just like his lawyers do imo), but for some reason it seems like some people would like nothing more than to see the prosecution fall flat on their face, lose at trial and see a murderer set free because imo they are either being deliberately obtuse, haven’t studied or read all the facts and evidence in this case and/or have such disdain for SM all the while feigning that they want justice for her while seemingly defending and making excuses for her obvious murderer, doubting the strength of prosecutions case before it even gets to court, and ever so subtly or in some cases not so subtly insinuating BM should not be held to account for what he did because SM deserved what she got for being an ‘awful person’ for ‘lying’ and having an affair. We are all imperfect humans and yes it is more than clear the M marriage was in shambles, ineffective communication (imo based on her texts to SO sounds like at least SM tried to communicate her feelings to BM and BM dismissed her stormed out leaving for days at a time?? shutting his phone off?? telling her oh yeah my battery will prob die while I’m gone?? Wtaf?? Who was he seeing because I don’t believe for a second he wasn’t involved with other/s either one day/night hookups or longer term dalliances, obviously all trust shot/lost. Just because LE hadn’t found any evidence YET (as of the writing of the AA) of BM dalliances, doesn’t mean he didn’t engage in any or that LE haven’t found evidence of it since the writing of the AA.
SM at least admitted to feeling partly responsible for the breakdown of the marriage, meanwhile BM told the FBI agents paraphrased, “she made me into a monster.” Typical N abuser not taking accountability and blaming someone else, typically their victim, for their bad choices/behaviors. Regardless of the troubled marriage, last I checked BM is alive and SM is the missing presumed deceased spouse who 3 days prior told BM she was done and whose footprint ceased within mere minutes of BM arriving home Saturday May 9, 2020, never to be heard from or seen again.

If BM “walks” as some seem to think he will and worse imo some also want him to, it would be one of the biggest, greatest travesties of justice I’ve ever seen, and may cause me to lose all faith in the US justice system. Lastly, shame on anyone claiming to be here for justice for Suzanne when clearly, just read between the lines and see that that is not the reason they are here at all. And before someone says it’s because people hate BM, no it has nothing to do with hating BM and everything to do with the fact that most people don’t like murderers and most rational, logical, critically thinking people that have followed this case since day one, followed the facts of the case can see via logical deduction that all roads and totality of evidence leads to one person and one person only who had the motive, means, and opportunity and something to gain from SM’s murder- the person whose initials suit him so well as he’s swimming in it, the one and only BM.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

I wish I could like your post more than once!

I’ve heard no one pose a credible or logical scenario for Suzanne’s disappearance, that is aside from Barry killing her. I’d love to hear something, anything, from those who believe that Barry wasn’t responsible for Suzanne’s death. How do you put together his behavior, his lies, her behavior, her writings, the timing, the bike staging, her desire for divorce, in a scenario where another perpetrator is responsible?

 

[Seattle1]

Please see this video if wanting evidence of BM pulling the daughters into their marital problems and gloating over his manipulation...

 

[marylamby]

RBBM

Nice. Classic Neanderthal-type statement.

Yeah. So no 'push presents' for Suzanne, I'm guessing.
I don't know one man who would be absent for his wife's Mother's Day. No breakfast in bed, gifts, pampering and appreciation for giving him his daughters. Was this usual MO on Mother's Day? The girls HAD to notice that wasn't the norm through friend's families. The girls were pawns to him, imo, and maybe even inconveniences.
I hope they one day wake up.
It's neither here nor there at this point. His gift to Suzanne was eternal life. Sweet.

 

[al66pine]

Wanting BM to Be at Home More?

IIRC it was after they moved to CO 6/1/18.
I will try to find the source. Going around and around about BM being at the gym working out all the time is what I recall.

@Boxer Thanks for your response.

BTW, I don't doubt that someone said this. Just thinking about cross exam questions (like in my post) to the witness.
my2ct.

 

[swedeheart]

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/People Exhibits Prelim Hearing.pdf

This is the court posted documents for the prosecution. Just for others to see quickly. I don't know how to post pages here or clip part of it, but page 22 of this document shows some texts between Sheila and Suzanne. It is interesting in this exchange, he mentions that MM2 said something about getting a restraining order. This is so tough. I think she knows and I don't know why she supports her dad. Not at all attempting to speak badly of her. It's her dad and supporting him is well within her right even if she things he did do something. I just think MM2 saw and heard a lot more than MM1. She may feel conflicted. In these texts it seems as if she knows fully what her mom is dealing with. I hadn't see these particular texts before with on of the girls suggesting a restraining order. There is also some interesting texts in there (might be several pages before this one) that were exchanged in Sept 2019 where Suzanne mentions waiting for the house to settle and possibly that being in January. I think this is referencing the house in Indiana that didn't settle until after she was gone She was trying to leave and it seems she had very real financial concerns and was just waiting on things to get sorted out there.

I sincerely feel for her, and I hope she is not feeling afraid. It's all I think about when I see photos of them. If there is anyone in the Morphew family that has a long, painful road of clarity ahead of her, I do believe it's MM1. I think she's just like Suzanne. It breaks my heart.

 

[marylamby]

Why Suggest Restraining Order?
@rainbowshummingbird bbm
MM2 may not have had a strong logical or legal basis for making the suggestion. Perhaps heard/read of R/O's, passed along the idea? IDK.

Recent posts suggest that a friend's parent's divorce prompted MM2 to say this. But maybe more than just one friend w divorced/ing parents.

Other possibilities? MM2 seeing TV (whether drama, news, or other) w R/O's granted. On the web, a few keystrokes searching "CO divorce" lead to countless websites, blogs, vlogs, podcasts, discussing that & R/O's.

Any number of ways the R/O idea may have come to MM2's attention. my2ct.

Any and/or all of that or simply that she saw her mother bruised (the 'clipped' nose, for one), heard her mother cry/yell in distress or even personally witnessed physical/emotional abuse herself.
IMO

 

[al66pine]

BM's Affairs. Evidence of What?

Quote in response to @al66pine 's question regarding Barry's affairs...
To think (as someone above inferred) that jurors will think 'boys will be boys' and women need to be above reproach is archaic and ridiculous....
I don't care if motive isn't 'important'. To a jury and myself, it most certainly is.

@marylamby bbm sbm I don’t know about ridiculous, but I'd disagree about archaic. Not offended, been called worse.
My earlier post did not say or imply that I think "jurors will think... women need to be above reproach." bbm ibm
Respectfully asking that anyone who drew this conclusion from my post to re-read it (#38).

My post addressed a post about possibility that BM's affairs might be used as evidence on issue of BM's honesty and integrity. Hoping now to clarify my earlier points.

1. Honesty? Prosecutor has clearly admissible evidence of many BM's stmts to LE (some audio recorded) & to others which can be used to show that BM lied on many topics both before & after SM's death (still technically ATM, a disappearance). If prosecutor tries to present testimony of affairs as additional evidence that BM lied, the court may exclude it as cumulative under CO. Rule of Evidence 403.*

2. Integrity? Seems that may fall under character evidence limited by CO. Rules of Evidence.*
Under Rule 404(b)(2), character evd. may be admitted to show "motive" among other purposes.
I did not post the jury will/would/should unanimously dismiss a defendant's extramarital affairs as unimportant. But a few/some may believe BM's affair(s?) are not a motive to kill SM.

Welcoming comment or correction, esp'ly from our legal professionals.

In commenting about what a jury/some jurors may/will believe/think, I avoid assuming that their beliefs and thoughts will align perfectly w mine. my2ct
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* CO. "Rule 403 - Exclusion of Relevant Evidence on Grounds of Prejudice, Confusion, or Waste of Time
Although relevant, evidence may be excluded if its probative value is substantially outweighed... by considerations of undue delay, waste of time, or needless presentation of cumulative evidence. (Federal Rule Identical.)" bbm
^ Rule 403 - Exclusion of Relevant Evidence on Grounds of Prejudice, Confusion, or Waste of Time, Colo. R. Evid. 403 | Casetext Search + Citator.
For rationale, see also Cornell Law School affiliated website:
Rule 403. Excluding Relevant Evidence for Prejudice, Confusion, Waste of Time, or Other Reasons.
** CO. Rule 404 "(a) Character evidence generally. Evidence of a person's character or a trait of his character is not admissible for the purpose of proving that he acted in conformity therewith on a particular occasion, except...:" bbm
^ Rule 404 - Character Evidence; Other Crimes, Wrongs, or Acts, Colo. R. Evid. 404 | Casetext Search + Citator

 

[al66pine]

Why Suggest Restraining Order?

Any and/or all of that or simply that she saw her mother bruised (the 'clipped' nose, for one), heard her mother cry/yell in distress or even personally witnessed physical/emotional abuse herself.
IMO

@marylamby Yes, absolutely. Glad you pointed out those possibilities.

 

[marylamby]

BM's Affairs. Evidence of What?
@marylamby bbm sbm I don’t know about ridiculous, but I'd disagree about archaic. Not offended, been called worse.
My earlier post did not say or imply that I think "jurors will think... women need to be above reproach." bbm ibm
Respectfully asking that anyone who drew this conclusion from my post to re-read it (#38).

My post addressed a post about possibility that BM's affairs might be used as evidence on issue of BM's honesty and integrity. Hoping now to clarify my earlier points.

1. Honesty? Prosecutor has clearly admissible evidence of many BM's stmts to LE (some audio recorded) & to others which can be used to show that BM lied on many topics both before & after SM's death (still technically ATM, a disappearance). If prosecutor tries to present testimony of affairs as additional evidence that BM lied, the court may exclude it as cumulative under CO. Rule of Evidence 403.*

2. Integrity? Seems that may fall under character evidence limited by CO. Rules of Evidence.*
Under Rule 404(b)(2), character evd. may be admitted to show "motive" among other purposes.
I did not post the jury will/would/should unanimously dismiss a defendant's extramarital affairs as unimportant. But a few/some may believe BM's affair(s?) are not a motive to kill SM.

Welcoming comment or correction, esp'ly from our legal professionals.

In commenting about what a jury/some jurors may/will believe/think, I avoid assuming that their beliefs and thoughts will align perfectly w mine. my2ct
__________________________________
* CO. "Rule 403 - Exclusion of Relevant Evidence on Grounds of Prejudice, Confusion, or Waste of Time
Although relevant, evidence may be excluded if its probative value is substantially outweighed... by considerations of undue delay, waste of time, or needless presentation of cumulative evidence. (Federal Rule Identical.)" bbm
^ Rule 403 - Exclusion of Relevant Evidence on Grounds of Prejudice, Confusion, or Waste of Time, Colo. R. Evid. 403 | Casetext Search + Citator.
For rationale, see also Cornell Law School affiliated website:
Rule 403. Excluding Relevant Evidence for Prejudice, Confusion, Waste of Time, or Other Reasons.
** CO. Rule 404 "(a) Character evidence generally. Evidence of a person's character or a trait of his character is not admissible for the purpose of proving that he acted in conformity therewith on a particular occasion, except...:" bbm
^ Rule 404 - Character Evidence; Other Crimes, Wrongs, or Acts, Colo. R. Evid. 404 | Casetext Search + Citator

I said how someone above mentioned the jury might think 'boys will be boys' but I don't believe that was you and I found that was archaic, disappointing and ridiculous. It wasn't directed specifically at you - sorry it came off that way.
Even if it were you, I'd not be calling you those terms - just that thinking a jury might take that approach would is ridiculous. I give people more credit than that.

You made a profound comment today that touched on that very subject - how people are judging Suzanne and not looking at the facts that prove BM to be guilty, with no doubt whatsoever. I applauded you.

EDIT: I'm sorry, that was @fcavanaugh! Geebus! I do love your comments too though! I'll shut up now.

Going back, now I see what happened. Initially, I tried to reply to @Momofthreeboys who replied to your comment but it didn't work. AND, I don't know if she was the person who used the 'boys will be boys' phrase and that's why I said 'someone above'. I screwed up, obviously. I'm sorry it looks like I addressed my comment to you and now it's to late to edit.
Much appreciation for all of your comments!

 

[FromGermany1]

I'm curious if she was home when he busted the door frame or if she knew after the fact that he busted the door frame. If it happened the weekend they were camping then surely she would know it was like that before they left for their trip. The master bedroom was downstairs so I would think she saw that busted door frame or could say for sure it wasn't there before they went camping.

I don't know, if MM2 had entered the home at all after Suzanne's "disappearance"? Maybe not. First the home was sealed by LE. Later on, perhaps BM tried to keep the girls from being back in that house again.