Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #94

[Lyanna]

BM pointed to the neighbor's cleaning lady's "daughter and boyfriend" as potential suspects back in his interview with LE on May 13, 2020.

But in her interview with LE on December 17, 2020 SD says she didn't meet BM until October 2020, when she says she was in the neighborhood cleaning the neighbor's house and met BM by chance at the neighborhood dumpster.

So, how would BM know who SD's daughter and boyfriend were if he had not yet met SD?

Edited for grammar.

Does anyone else want to grab SD by the shoulders and shake her whilst saying 'wake the f@!k up' or is that just me?
Barry tried to implicate her daughter and she still had a relationship with him.

moo

 

[mrjitty]

There doesn't need to be an alternative "theory" in my opinion. That isn't going to be I don't think a tactic defense will use. My guess will be that they will simply punch through prosecution's "theory" since a theory is essentially what prosecution is going to trial with.

I agree they won't have an active defence/theory

Basically they'll be saying to the jury "sure Barry is probably guilty, but there is a big enough sliver of doubt for a not guilty verdict, even if you think he likely did it"

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Are you saying you believe Barry saw a herd at a time of year when they don't herd?

That he forgot seeing this for a year, and suddenly remembered it dozens of interviews later?

That he saw and followed this herd, and it miraculously put him in the area of the helmet?

That's either a remarkable coincidence, or some diabolical elk.

I don't know that I'm sold on the idea that he was there to dispose of the helmet....prosecution will need to lay that argument out for me, but as far as Elk Yes - According to a list of animal congregations offered by the US Geological Survey, the term for a plural grouping for elk is none other than a gang...I just looked it up. And yes their nature is to travel in groups. If I remember the conversation Barry claimed that he wanted to see where they traveled so that he could go antler hunting - Elk shed in March and Deer in April usually... so I'm sure he's thinking they are still around to find since it was early May. I've never seen Elk or Deer not in groups. You might have one wandering off to the side or trailing but from my wish to be safe in my vehicle from dusk to dawn in an area highly populated by deer not Elk....I always assume if there is one there is more than one. And at least with deer they travel the same paths everyday. According to the same source: In a given elk habitat area, there are several options for bedding, travel routes and nighttime feeding. For a time they might follow the same patterns, but are internally wired to vary their patterns in order to avoid over-feeding an area and stripping it of food.

 

[OldCop]

Who are the Barry "or others" that LE say didn't go past Monarch?? Were they checking for someone else in particular??

I don’t think so. I think LE was telling him they didn’t see him or anyone else go past Monarch that night. Just letting him know he was the only vehicle on the highway at that time in that area.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Different cleaning lady. BM may have been referring to a cleaning lady he and Suzanne met and spoke with Wednesday May 6th. I can't remember her name but I think her last name begins with the letter B.

Edit:

"think her last name begins with the letter 'B'.
I believe I confused her last name with Suzanne's friend Robin Binford.
I did read a report or interview though where this May 6th cleaning lady was quoted. Just can't remember her name.

There are several cleaning ladies in this case....I believe SD's daughter also cleaned the Cushman's or so it was bought up somewhere.

 

[Seattle1]

No, reporter LS spoke with the lady. It was before LS had her own YouTube, so she may have talked about it on PE or on her FB page. It was never in a MSM article so I will look for a link.
JMO

If not named, I believe she was on camera with LS but did not want to be shown. She also wasn't a cleaning lady but the property manager that went to the managed properties specifically to discard perishables where guests no longer anticipated due to cancelations related to the covid pandemic. MOO

 

[MassGuy]

I don't know that I'm sold on the idea that he was there to dispose of the helmet....prosecution will need to lay that argument out for me, but as far as Elk Yes - According to a list of animal congregations offered by the US Geological Survey, the term for a plural grouping for elk is none other than a gang...I just looked it up. And yes their nature is to travel in groups. If I remember the conversation Barry claimed that he wanted to see where they traveled so that he could go antler hunting - Elk shed in March and Deer in April usually... so I'm sure he's thinking they are still around to find since it was early May. I've never seen Elk or Deer not in groups. You might have one wandering off to the side or trailing but from my wish to be safe in my vehicle from dusk to dawn in an area highly populated by deer not Elk....I always assume if there is one there is more than one. And at least with deer they travel the same paths everyday. According to the same source: In a given elk habitat area, there are several options for bedding, travel routes and nighttime feeding. For a time they might follow the same patterns, but are internally wired to vary their patterns in order to avoid over-feeding an area and stripping it of food.

Barry said he saw male and female elk together, that was the issue. It wasn't just the herd.The state is asking the undersheriff about hunting. Asking if he knows when elk shed their antlers.

Undersheriff Rohrich said they typically shed their antlers before March and that Bulls and Cows aren't typically together in May. #BarryMorphew preliminary hearing.

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1429854000711622658?s=21

I'm not sure what the prosecution needs to "lay out."

If Barry is guilty, he must have dumped the helmet.

In order to dump that helmet, he would have had to have turned left.

Barry admits to turning left.

As per his pattern, he attributed this event to an animal.

So either Barry murdered Suzanne, or Colorado has a major issue with elk.

Because not only can they cause car accidents, but they are now framing innocent people for murder.

 

[Boxer]

Interesting - so the sweep of his lights is in the wrong direction to see them.

He'd really need to take the stand to fix this up, unless they are going to argue the Elk were right down in the intersection and went up to the washed out road - a distance of around 170m

To me seeing the elk checks out. There was about an 80% moon on 5/10.
Elk were .105 mile along straight road section.
My question is why did BM proceed to Garfield to turn around since the elk were near the intersection of 50 and 225?

 

[Murphy1950]

BM pointed to the neighbor's cleaning lady's "daughter and boyfriend" as potential suspects back in his interview with LE on May 13, 2020.

But in her interview with LE on December 17, 2020 SD says she didn't meet BM until October 2020, when she says she was in the neighborhood cleaning the neighbor's house and met BM by chance at the neighborhood dumpster.

So, how would BM know who SD's daughter and boyfriend were if he had never even yet met SD?

No, reporter LS spoke with the lady. It was before LS had her own YouTube, so she may have talked about it on PE or on her FB page. It was never in a MSM article so I will look for a link.
JMO

Quoting: Lauren
BB.... (housekeeper)
"I went there (dumpster) it was late up in the evening and when I throw the thing over, she and her husband came to see who was throwing trash in there and I had like seven bags to throw in. They didn't know who I was. They asked why I was dumping? I said I manage properties up the road and they said oh okay! Now that we know who you are.

When I heard that she went missing, I said dang, I just talked to her a couple of days ago. People come and camp and they put things in the dumpster, so they were wondering if that was the case. That's all it is. They were going for a walk, on an evening walk."

When I asked if I could do an interview on camera she said NO I'm a mess... I've been cleaning. Can I report what you've said she replied yes.

"I think it was a Wednesday afternoon before she went missing. I had some guests that were here that had to leave because of corona. But then I came up here to take out all of the food that was inside, to take everything out. I was throwing things out because I didn't know so that's why I was there.

Those two is rental properties and their house and around here there are two people who live there. All of the people who live in this area are friendly. They'll talk to you because they all know each other. As I said, the dumpster they all pay for it. So it is a community. They all know each other."
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ETA: edited to delete the actual full name of the cleaning lady.

 

[Seattle1]

There doesn't need to be an alternative "theory" in my opinion. That isn't going to be I don't think a tactic defense will use. My guess will be that they will simply punch through prosecution's "theory" since a theory is essentially what prosecution is going to trial with.

I believe everybody understands that the state has the burden to prove BM guilty of murdering his wife, and not that the defense has to counter with an alternate theory. I think for WS discussion purposes, OP would like to see a theory that's different than constantly blaming leery investigators, witnesses, etc., but credible information that points towards BM's innocence. While the two may overlap, evidence painting the defendant innocent is different. MOO

 

[DizzyB]

Quoting: Lauren
Bridget Bulker (housekeeper)
"I went there (dumpster) it was late up in the evening and when I throw the thing over, she and her husband came to see who was throwing trash in there and I had like seven bags to throw in. They didn't know who I was. They asked why I was dumping? I said I manage properties up the road and they said oh okay! Now that we know who you are.

When I heard that she went missing, I said dang, I just talked to her a couple of days ago. People come and camp and they put things in the dumpster, so they were wondering if that was the case. That's all it is. They were going for a walk, on an evening walk."

When I asked if I could do an interview on camera she said NO I'm a mess... I've been cleaning. Can I report what you've said she replied yes.

"I think it was a Wednesday afternoon before she went missing. I had some guests that were here that had to leave because of corona. But then I came up here to take out all of the food that was inside, to take everything out. I was throwing things out because I didn't know so that's why I was there.

Those two is rental properties and their house and around here there are two people who live there. All of the people who live in this area are friendly. They'll talk to you because they all know each other. As I said, the dumpster they all pay for it. So it is a community. They all know each other."
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Wow seven whole bags of trash in the HOA dumpster and homeowner Barry thought that was A-ok. Amazing that he didn’t utilize that dumpster on a regular basis for his truck garbage.

 

[Seattle1]

Quoting: Lauren
Bridget Bulker (housekeeper)
"I went there (dumpster) it was late up in the evening and when I throw the thing over, she and her husband came to see who was throwing trash in there and I had like seven bags to throw in. They didn't know who I was. They asked why I was dumping? I said I manage properties up the road and they said oh okay! Now that we know who you are.

When I heard that she went missing, I said dang, I just talked to her a couple of days ago. People come and camp and they put things in the dumpster, so they were wondering if that was the case. That's all it is. They were going for a walk, on an evening walk."

When I asked if I could do an interview on camera she said NO I'm a mess... I've been cleaning. Can I report what you've said she replied yes.

"I think it was a Wednesday afternoon before she went missing. I had some guests that were here that had to leave because of corona. But then I came up here to take out all of the food that was inside, to take everything out. I was throwing things out because I didn't know so that's why I was there.

Those two is rental properties and their house and around here there are two people who live there. All of the people who live in this area are friendly. They'll talk to you because they all know each other. As I said, the dumpster they all pay for it. So it is a community. They all know each other."
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Thanks for the jest of LS's interview, @Murphy1950. I think it's clear that BM was not referring to BB's daughter and boyfriend. JMO

 

[MassGuy]

Wow seven whole bags of trash in the HOA dumpster and homeowner Barry thought that was A-ok. Amazing that he didn’t utilize that dumpster on a regular basis for his truck garbage.

Exactly. Why dump all his truck trash in one dumpster near his home, when he could make 5 separate stops in Broomfield?

The McDonald's stop actually required him to push the trash down.

This is all really simple stuff. He didn't want to put all that evidence in one location in case it was found.

There is plenty of precedent for that behavior, and Barry's excuse is ridiculous on its face.

 

[Cindizzi]

BM never brought up the detour to follow Elk until March 2021 to explain missing miles on his trip!

He had been interviewed many many times before that, going over what time he left the house and which route he took.

 

[waldojabba]

Different cleaning lady. BM may have been referring to a cleaning lady he and Suzanne met and spoke with Wednesday May 6th. I can't remember her name but I think her last name begins with the letter B.

Edit:

"think her last name begins with the letter 'B'.
I believe I confused her last name with Suzanne's friend Robin Binford.
I did read a report or interview though where this May 6th cleaning lady was quoted. Just can't remember her name.

Iirc it was Bridget ?

 

[NothingSurprisesAnymore]

Wow seven whole bags of trash in the HOA dumpster and homeowner Barry thought that was A-ok. Amazing that he didn’t utilize that dumpster on a regular basis for his truck garbage.

Thank you for finding @Murphy1950 earlier post! Knew this interview took place.
The hypocrisy of Barry's concern about the use of a shared dumpster knowing he took advantage of free dumping throughout his life shows such a lack of respect for other people.
This may seem a minor thing but says alot about his greed and self-centeredness. We have dumpsters for tenants and construction debris and it is a real pain when there's no room because the Barry's of the world fill them

 

[Seattle1]

Barry said he saw male and female elk together, that was the issue. It wasn't just the herd.

I'm not sure what the prosecution needs to "lay out."

If Barry is guilty, he must have dumped the helmet.

In order to dump that helmet, he would have had to have turned left.

Barry admits to turning left.

As per his pattern, he attributed this event to an animal.

So either Barry murdered Suzanne, or Colorado has a major issue with elk.

Because not only can they cause car accidents, but they are now framing innocent people for murder.

^^bbm
Actually, now that you bring it up, I did see earlier that in Colorado, not only do deer outnumber mountain lions, but officials warned they can also be dangerous!

 

[Momofthreeboys]

To me seeing the elk checks out. There was about an 80% moon on 5/10.
Elk were .105 mile along straight road section.
My question is why did BM proceed to Garfield to turn around since the elk were near the intersection of 50 and 225?

True at that time of night/early AM on 50 he probably could have made a U-Turn without too much trouble but U Turns are illegal in Colorado on 50 but hard to believe at 5 AM Barry couldn't have done it without getting caught. Problem is if prosecution doesn't have reliable telematics that the jury trusts saying he rolled his window down to "probably throw out the helmet" and moreso if prosecution brings up the 80 incidents in the middle of othe night then they have a plausible story from Barry saying he saw Elk and went to go look where they were headed and they will see or would have seen a whole lotta pictures of Barry and his antlers. Earlier I saw a poster ask about people that believe Barry is innocent....I'm sure there are some...but the bigger problem is does prosecution have a solid enough case. One person with a critical mind who isn't comfortable sending a man to prison for the rest of his life with the prosecution's speculation is a problem for the prosecution.

 

[MassGuy]

BM never brought up the detour to follow Elk until March 2021 to explain missing miles on his trip!

He had been interviewed many many times before that, going over what time he left the house and which route he took.

Like everyone on "Unsolved Mysteries" in the late 80's and early 90's, Barry must have been afflicted with some sort of amnesia (that was always the possible explanation).

He's making left turns to follow elk, shooting chipmunks, and suddenly tranquillizing deer after originally claiming he never did so in Colorado.

At least his memory returned, unlike those poor people on that aforementioned show.

I imagine some of them are still wandering the US, hitchhiking while sporting perms.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I believe everybody understands that the state has the burden to prove BM guilty of murdering his wife, and not that the defense has to counter with an alternate theory. I think for WS discussion purposes, OP would like to see a theory that's different than constantly blaming leery investigators, witnesses, etc., but credible information that points towards BM's innocence. While the two may overlap, evidence painting the defendant innocent is different. MOO

That is difficult as we don't have any information from defense at all yet other than they believe there is exculpatory evidence and even that isn't sorted out legally yet and we don't know everything defense knows. They still don't have Suzanne's car info, laptop info, etc. I have to believe that people who think strongly that he is innocent are people that knew both of them personally and not people that have only been exposed to the chatter and the affidavit.