Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #94

[NothingSurprisesAnymore]

This isn’t in response to anyone’s recent post per se, but I wanted to bring forward a knowledgeable response I had received from @10ofRods a few threads back regarding cadaverine, as insight and better understanding into the process:

Detectable cadaverine takes about 12 hours to show up (for dogs or gizmos). Hot weather (which it wasn't)...we could stretch it to 8-10, but 12-24 hours is the normal range.

She'd have had to be there for quite a few hours...cellular decomp is not instantaneous.

PS - I totally agree that he moved her off site to kill her - and then did something to move or inter her body - thereby getting cadaverine on himself - perhaps, even on Monday, where his time is mostly unaccounted for. Probably had more than one SIM for the Bobcat - I'm sure they sell them.

Thank you for pointing this out!!
I had recently commented on cadaverine and failed to clarify my concern was more it leading searchers to Suzanne's grave or body...

Edit to add:
If cadaverine scent can be eliminated it would allow Barry to place her closer to home thereby less likely to be detected while disposing and concealing body

 

[Seattle1]

I have been contemplating Barry and his control. I wonder how the defense is keeping him quiet and will be able to keep him quiet during the trial. BM is going to be bombarded with testimony that I think would infuriate him and the defense may not do what he wants. In my opinion he is going to want, maybe demand to get on the stand to tell how things are. His daughters are going to hear things that may discount what BM has told them, there is going to be pressure from all sides on him. I wonder how the walk into the courtroom will be after a week or two of trial. IMO, prosecution should place witnesses on the stand that will make BM's blood boil, especially the ones that bothered him during his questioning in the AA.
It would be good to see BM get frustrated enough for BM to fire his attorney's as they are not doing what he says, or to controlling of him. The dynamics between his attorney's and himself could be entertaining.
Just some rambles.

E & N have defended many similar to BM -- personality-wise. IE is especially adept at controlling the optics of their client inside the courtroom (outside too) down to the number of times he blinks! I have no doubt BM has been in practice, learning to control his reactions to contrary testimony. And IE will also be seated close to BM to openly soothe him.

 

[LietKynes]

I wonder what the jury will think when they hear about Barry's boast about being able to bury a body so it cannot be found.


Such a useful skill to have !

His own words are sinking him.
Iirc, Barry had threatened one of his daughter's boyfriends' with just that fate.
What a nice parent.

Imo.

 

[Seattle1]

I think he got an offer of a "free" place to stay and took it. I think it was a very last minute decision and he hoped to live in Gunnison as evidenced by the court request that day. I think he would have stayed in his free option regardless of where it was located in Chaffee County once he couldn't live in Gunnison. I don't think the location factored into the decision.

^^bbm
Of course the location factored into BM's decision! BM has never lived directly in town. We saw the gated IN residence with acres of privacy. I think he's always needed seclusion for a reason. He made an exception when living at Tailwinds (Poncha Springs) because he was working on the same property and could keep his eyes on his equipment and materials. Although not confirmed, I recall one neighbor interviewed after his arrest stating he thought BM was living in the condo in exchange for work.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Congrats @Love Never Fails for saving yourself. No doubt you're stronger and wiser for the experience. Goes to show that crazy makers have been around for a long while, and glad that we've evolved to openly discuss these disorders. Too many lived in shame-- made to believe it was their fault.

It should be discussed publicly. There are male victims also but it appears to be mostly females. Most of it is hidden and the abused are too ashamed and afraid to tell. Fear is a big issue.

Unfortunately, I believe victims don’t start out with a strong sense of who they are and the abuser realizes that immediately and uses it to his/her advantage. I am stronger now and I get angry when I look back to the way it was. Leaving is not easy. You feel weak, unwanted, ugly, afraid. All of that.

Suzanne was beautiful. I’m sure she didn’t feel it.

 

[Love Never Fails]

MOO IMO

I agree. There is obviously more there to come out in trial that the AA didn’t disclose.

To me, MG is one of the predominant key witnesses in this case. This woman worked alongside BM everyday (paraphrasing her words) for years. IMO, she is the one person that spent the most time with BM since his move to Colorado. She will be able to not only testify to BM’s timeline/movements/actions but to so much more, especially his character. There is a very obvious and damning reason he didn’t want her to hand over her phone to LE.

Based on a first person witness incident I was prevy to early on in this case, I truly don’t know if MG was friend or foe of BM up until she moved out of state and publicly declared she was scared of him. If I have doubts, I guess I am leaning towards the belief that she has a much bigger part in this whole saga than we may have considered and in order to save her backside, she cooperated as best she could with LE in the first few months after SM’s “disappearance”. If that were true though, I would think some hint or disclosure of that cooperation (outside her interviews) would be in the AA and I haven’t come across information to indicate she was involved with LE in getting wired or setup on stings.

This trial could not come soon enough!

[As a side note, can I add how much I can’t stand that BM is free right now and able to read all our comments on the daily. And we all know he and his minions are doing so! I hate to think he is staying on top of all the forums and concocting ideas, excuses and varying scenarios to continue to further convolute or expand his narrative. Ugh!]

You gaveme a thought. What if MG, unknowingly, had his burner phone number in her call memory? One can hope.

 

[Seattle1]

Didn't they execute a search warrant on her house at some point? I could have sworn that came up during the prelim or another hearing.

If they were able to get a warrant on her house, then I don't think it's a stretch to assume they were able to subpoena her phone records.

If Barry did in fact have a burner device, that would be one way of obtaining information about it. Find the phone number you can obtain information from the phone company.

Even burners have phone records, to include location information.

I believe this came up when E & N motioned for Judge Murphy to be removed from the case -- citing that he'd previously signed warrants related to SD searches. Unless I'm confusing SD's matters before the court. MOO

 

[Seattle1]

It should be discussed publicly. There are male victims also but it appears to be mostly females. Most of it is hidden and the abused are too ashamed and afraid to tell. Fear is a big issue.

Unfortunately, I believe victims don’t start out with a strong sense of who they are and the abuser realizes that immediately and uses it to his/her advantage. I am stronger now and I get angry when I look back to the way it was. Leaving is not easy. You feel weak, unwanted, ugly, afraid. All of that.

Suzanne was beautiful. I’m sure she didn’t feel it.

Yes, I agree about plenty of male victims-- as well as children. I've heard horrific stories of children raised by narc mothers.

 

[MassGuy]

I believe this came up when E & N motioned for Judge Murphy to be removed from the case -- citing that he'd previously signed warrants related to SD searches. Unless I'm confusing SD's matters before the court. MOO

Yup you're right. I forgot how extensive the search warrant was. Boy, I'd love to know what was found, as much of it occurred several weeks after Barry's arrest, and obviously wouldn't be included in the AA.

 

[Seattle1]

I agree with what the motive of the defense might be to push this forward. Though this case may seem weak for the prosecution, I am hoping they have much more by now. If they do, wouldn’t they have to provide that evidence to the defense before trial? (I don’t know how that works.)

I would love for them to find the body.
However, if all the prosecution can provide is the circumstantial evidence we have read about in the AA, Barry’s own lies should convict him. I could not be swayed by a defense attorney. As for the unknown DNA in the vehicle, that means nothing to me.
The circumstantial evidence, in my opinion, ties Barry up in a neat little bow.

Digital evidence can be extremely powerful when presented logically to jurors. This is the digital age where most have a good understanding based on their own usage. IMO, jurors will have little trouble understanding SM going dark within minutes of BM returning to PP, and never surfacing again.

IMO, the digital evidence presented by experts convicted both Colorado's Frazee and Lucas (no body cases).

 

[MassGuy]

Digital evidence can extremely so powerful when presented logically to jurors. This is the digital age where most have a good understanding based on their own usage. IMO, jurors have little trouble understanding SM going dark within minutes of BM returning to PP, and never surfacing again. IMO, the digital evidence presented by experts convicted both Colorado's Frazee and Lucas (no body cases).

It really is "the new DNA."

 

[Love Never Fails]

Digital evidence can extremely so powerful when presented logically to jurors. This is the digital age where most have a good understanding based on their own usage. IMO, jurors have little trouble understanding SM going dark within minutes of BM returning to PP, and never surfacing again. IMO, the digital evidence presented by experts convicted both Colorado's Frazee and Lucas (no body cases).

Because this is a no body case I’m really thankful we will have a Colorado jury. They can understand more than anyone how vast Colorado is and how easy it would be to hide a body. Fortunately we live in a digital age and , as you say, most jurors will follow that circumstantial evidence (as well as Barry’s own words).

 

[Megnut]

E & N have defended many similar to BM -- personality-wise. IE is especially adept at controlling the optics of their client inside the courtroom (outside too) down to the number of times he blinks! I have no doubt BM has been in practice, learning to control his reactions to contrary testimony. And IE will also be seated close to BM to openly soothe him.

Exactly.

And also, IE has Barry's number. Meaning she knows what he's charged with, based on her motions she knows he's guilty (but will defend to the end that every right he has and every technicality work in his favor), and she knows his kind.

She's not trying to be in a relationship with him, raise children with him, persevere a marriage or hold onto her sense of self.

She's not afraid of him.

She depends on him for nothing.

And she knows how to play someone like Barry. Just the right amount of I'm-in-control-and-you-aren't and touchy-feely fawning to dupe Barry into thinking he's the alpha.

Barry needs to expand his sense of what he's good at.

Let me add two.

He's good at concealing a body.

~ and ~

he's good at picking the best defense money can buy.

Let's hope that the one doesn't let him get away with the other.

JMO

 

[Cindizzi]

It really is "the new DNA."

Digital Footprint.

 

[Skigh]

Exactly.

And also, IE has Barry's number. Meaning she knows what he's charged with, based on her motions she knows he's guilty (but will defend to the end that every right he has and every technicality work in his favor), and she knows his kind.

She's not trying to be in a relationship with him, raise children with him, persevere a marriage or hold onto her sense of self.

She's not afraid of him.

She depends on him for nothing.

And she knows how to play someone like Barry. Just the right amount of I'm-in-control-and-you-aren't and touchy-feely fawning to dupe Barry into thinking he's the alpha.

Barry needs to expand his sense of what he's good at.

Let me add two.

He's good at concealing a body.

~ and ~

he's good at picking the best defense money can buy.

Let's hope that the one doesn't let him get away with the other.

JMO

I am not sure if he picked his fancy lawyers or someone else persuaded him to part with his money to hire them.

 

[Scootie98]

Barry has previously commented he could bury a body and it not be found.

This may make the where of Suzanne's grave slightly less important as he has the skills to convincingly conceal.

Detection and telematics would have been an obvious concern as he proceeded to put her somewhere but what may have been most important was to cover the scent of cadaverine.

Does anyone know how difficult it is to eliminate this scent? Is it possible to do in a way that is not over the top complicated? I think if realistically doable this is a skill he would have known and used on occasion as he is an avid hunter and maybe poacher...

...and we know "scent" was important to him hence one advantage of tranquilizing Suzanne

Edit to add:
Main concern of cadaverine is it leading searchers to grave or corpse
What are methods while burying body to eliminate scent

Unless I am mistaken....wasn't BM's statement to MG about his ability at burying a body made literally hours before Suzanne's last proof of life?

 

[Megnut]

It really is "the new DNA."

And Barry's efforts to avoid detection (SIM cards, fuses, airplane mode) create gaps at critical intervals where data ought to be, and they correspond to key events in a murder case!

He thought he was being smart!

Just his airplane mode on the morning of MDW is a stunning bit of evidence!

He sunk himself.

JMO

 

[Seattle1]

Yup you're right. I forgot how extensive the search warrant was. Boy, I'd love to know what was found, as much of it occurred several weeks after Barry's arrest, and obviously wouldn't be included in the AA.

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Thank you. I recall I looked up "pen register trap and trace" and learned trap and trace device shows what numbers had called a specific telephone, i.e., all incoming phone numbers. A pen register shows what numbers a phone has called, i.e., all outgoing phone numbers. Both typically used in concert. Seems to me a burner would be detected.

 

[MassGuy]

Unless I am mistaken....wasn't BM's statement to MG about his ability at burying a body made literally hours before Suzanne's last proof of life?

Yup. Page 50:

When questioned about the job sites on Saturday, May 09, 2020, Morgan stated she recalled an odd comment made by Barry. Morgan explained after they completed the "beach" at the "river house" (6962 CR 105, Salida), she rode with Barry to the next site. Morgan stated she commented pigs could eat an entire human body in two hours. Barry commented that he would be able to "bury a body" and it "would never be found."

 

[NothingSurprisesAnymore]

Yes, iirc @Scootie98
MG initiated by saying pig(s) could eat a human body in two hours to which BM replied he could bury a body that wouldn't be found