Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #95

[NothingSurprisesAnymore]

An earlier poster differentiated between an affair (usually of some time duration) and infidelity (could be a one night stand). I would add that some might say = infidelity. Given the internet searches we KNOW about (see quotes below), I wouldn't be surprised if he was addicted to . Sadly, a huge section of the population view regularly. I saw one study that said 1 out of 3 men self-report they are addicted to . (39 Shocking Sexual Addiction Recovery Statistics - HRF)

AA, pg 32: On January 25, 2020, Barry’s phone accessed, “LocalSnapSext.com,” “Find a Cute Girl Near Salida,” and, “Come Get Dirty, REDACTED (along with other such sites that were recovered from “Deleted Web Searches” on Barry’s phone).

And the footnote that goes with that: When Barry was asked by CBI if he ever searched online to meet other women, he replied, “No, never.” (Reference July 8th interview). He added, “Absolutely not, never.”

Uh oh
When BM says "absolutely not, never"
there's a good chance the opposite is true
Along with...
100%
Every time
Betcha a hundred thousand dollars
I don't recall
I had no idea
I had a big job in Broomfield
She rode her bike in the morning
We shared a plate
Our marriage is perfect

It's like a special code

 

[marylamby]

Correct..IMO...the next group of scheduled hearings in this matter will likely be dealing with some of these admissibility issues.

And the continuing issue of discovey violations by the state.

Has the state turned over the victim's range rover and icloud info to the defense yet? I think the 14 days is running out?

Did any reporters like LS give a summary of the last proceedings that went until like 1830? I have not heard what was going on in the Court that kept them so late?

I don't understand how a person's (a person who has been murdered or even simply *cough* missing) texts are inadmissible.
They no longer have a voice and those are their own words. Why not let the jury decide if she was lying or not? After all, the texts about abuse are supported by Suzanne's own daughter, M2, in statements to LE. Why disallow all of her texts to SO? That's ridiculous.
I also understand how you're coming from a defense attorney's point of view but ultimately it was up to the judge to make that call. Bad call, imo. You stated that that's a usual ruling but I don't know what case files you're attributing that to, obviously, and most of us aren't privy to all of the cases involving texts.
Can you cite the cases you refer to? I don't think it's as precedent as you assert - or at least it shouldn't be.
I think it's outrageous.

 

[Cindizzi]

I don't understand how a person's (a person who has been murdered or even simply *cough* missing) texts are inadmissible.
They no longer have a voice and those are their own words. Why not let the jury decide if she was lying or not? After all, the texts about abuse are supported by Suzanne's own daughter, M2, in statements to LE. Why disallow all of her texts to SO? That's ridiculous.
I also understand how you're coming from a defense attorney's point of view but ultimately it was up to the judge to make that call. Bad call, imo. You stated that that's a usual ruling but I don't know what case files you're attributing that to, obviously, and most of us aren't privy to all of the cases involving texts.
Can you cite the cases you refer to? I don't think it's as precedent as you assert - or at least it shouldn't be.
I think it's outrageous.

I’m looking forward to seeing the Court Order about exactly what has been ruled inadmissible here. Hopefully they will upload it to the Court site soon. I still think it only applies to statements that were made to LE that have no texts to back them up. In other words, they can’t just say that SO told them that SM TOLD her something . That’s hearsay.
They need to see a text from SM saying it. IMO

In another Colorado case where the Defendant murdered his 13 year old son, the Judge did allow statements and texts from the deceased victim.
Here is how the Prosecution argued it.
https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...n Redwine Pursuant to C_R_E_ 807 (P-4)(1).pdf

 

[justtrish]

Thank you for getting this straight for me. Could swear he said to Grusing that he went home or was home by 2:30 so an estimation, I guess. When was her last communication again?
I'm sure there's a timeline here somewhere, so no worries. I'll find it.

I recall this as well! I'll look for where it's noted that he said 2:30

 

[Momofthreeboys]

LOL
It’s an opinion piece by a relative with some illuminating insight into Barry’s upbringing and personality we’re all discussing
Sand meet head

Well his childhood years and his personality aren’t on trial. My interest is generally the legal angles. Like I said if he ends up on the witness list or once the trial begins I can go back and read.

 

[Aloe]

This struck me:
“If Barry killed Suzanne—a human woman on earth, who seems to have sought happiness here and now—I suspect he would have done it because he thought she was losing sight of heaven, losing sight of God, losing sight of death. If he dismembered and buried, burned, or drowned her body, I believe he would have done it because “the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church.” If he did it, he seems to have subsequently tried to justify or at least explain it with his faith.”

Godly Barry, he wasn't right in the head.
MOO

 

[Cindizzi]

Well his childhood years and his personality aren’t on trial. My interest is generally the legal angles. Like I said if he ends up on the witness list or once the trial begins I can go back and read.

I’m not really interested in BM’s upbringing either. But I think we’ve all be hoping for some kind of insight into what he meant when he told a journalist this 3 months after SM missing. Way before the AA came out and we see all his statements to LE about God.


‘People don’t know the truth’: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado

“We don’t know why God does what he does,” Barry told Scharf. ” But we have to trust him.”
“This is the most devastating thing that has ever happened to me,” Barry explained. “But I have got to keep my faith and trust in God. And Suzanne trusted the Lord and if one person got saved from this, she would think it was worth it. And we are just a Godly, loving, caring, family and this thing is just a tragedy.”

 

[NothingSurprisesAnymore]

I’m not really interested in BM’s upbringing either. But I think we’ve all be hoping for some kind of insight into what he meant when he told a journalist this 3 months after SM missing. Way before the AA came out and we see all his statements to LE about God.


‘People don’t know the truth’: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado

“We don’t know why God does what he does,” Barry told Scharf. ” But we have to trust him.”
“This is the most devastating thing that has ever happened to me,” Barry explained. “But I have got to keep my faith and trust in God. And Suzanne trusted the Lord and if one person got saved from this, she would think it was worth it. And we are just a Godly, loving, caring, family and this thing is just a tragedy.”

When I first heard Barry say "people don't know the truth" it made me think he did.

 

[notbornyesterday]

Barry also said he was embarrassed by the scratches that Suzanne gave him.

Barry SAID a lot of things but that doesn't make any of them true.

 

[MassGuy]

Barry SAID a lot of things but that doesn't make any of them true.

I think the safe bet is to assume everything he said is false, until proven otherwise.

 

[NothingSurprisesAnymore]

When I first heard Barry say "people don't know the truth" it made me think he did.

Also, in Barry's mind something "is just a tragedy" when someone causes you to kill them.
JMO

Edit: meant to reply to @Cindizzi

 

[Cindizzi]

Also, in Barry's mind something "is just a tragedy" when someone causes you to kill them.
JMO

Edit: meant to reply to @Cindizzi

Yeah “ this thing is just a tragedy “ was quite an eye opener.

 

[DeDee]

I honestly think that he was afraid to say he was back at the hotel because the whole alibi is prefaced on the fact that he had to get up there early on Mother’s Day to work on this important job. If he said he was lounging around the hotel, the next question would be, “Well why did you have to go there in the first place, leaving your wife alone on Mother’s Day?”
He was caught either way.

Thank you for offering a logical explanation for Barry's lies about where he was on Mother's Day when contacted regarding Suzanne not being available via her phone. Let us remember to the humble Christian, "Satan is the father of all lies."

I gave this big lie of Barry's some consideration earlier by attempting to make sense of it. One conclusion that I came to was that Barry lied on purpose and with intention. Was his lying a set up? If he was deceptive about where he was and what he was doing, during this important watershed moment, then he'd lie about most anything. These are not altruistic lies. These are not harmless fibs.

Will he be seen in court as a big fat liar who also lied to the FBI? Perhaps he wants every utterance from his poisonous lips to be thought of as possibly being a lie. Some of Barry's friends and business associates in IN knew he was a liar. Suzanne knew he lied. Didn't his family also know he lied? Was the bracelet Suzanne found really one that belonged to his sister or does she prevaricate, also, ya know, for the greater good?

Will the jury consider any and everything he may have told the investigators and FBI to be important lies? How would the jury discern truth from fiction if he's caught red handed in various lies all along the way? Barry and the truth are not friends. The truth is not in him. Was all of this lying part of his devious plan all along?

My Sunday afternoon musings and specualtions only
.

 

[BeckyF]

Barry also said he was embarrassed by the scratches that Suzanne gave him.

Poor thing. Image is everything.

 

[MassGuy]

Poor thing. Image is everything.

This is a super important admission though. One of two things (at least) must be true:

She had in fact scratched him in the past, which shows that the marks on his arm are something she would do in a struggle (like him trying to murder her).

She had not done it before, but she did this time, which is why Barry couldn't help himself but bring it up.

 

[marylamby]

Im not trying to be funny. The constitution protects the accused, not so much the victim. That often seems unfair, but it is what it is. As of now BM is only accused of SM’s murder, so all the constitutional protections apply.

If texts or 0r her list are allowed in, how does the defense defend against some one they can not cross examine. That seems very unfair to the victim, SM, but the protections are for the accused, BM.

take for example SM stating BM is a narcissist. What does she mean by narcissist. Is her understanding the same as yours, mine, the 12 jurors? Does she have examples of what he did/does to show he is a narcissist? How can anyone know without asking her?

How can BM’s defense defend against past written/texted statement from SM, without her being there to ask?

This is all IMHO. I may be wrong. As the law is so complicated at times even attorneys get it wrong, it’s even likely that I am.

So I'm guessing that Suzanne's journal should've been ruled inadmissible too, had not her murderer taken the time to BURN it in the fireplace? You can't cross-examine a dead person, this much is true. These, the texts and her journal, were SUZANNE'S own words and it defies justice to keep them out.
IMFO

 

[Cindizzi]

Ugh.
He says “ I just couldn’t get it through her head.”

I hear an abuser saying “ She just wouldn’t listen.”

And he had to constantly tell himself “ Don’t let her fire you up.”

This is SO telling.
And it’s regarding the text of SM saying “ I’m done”

 

[Aloe]

Thank you for offering a logical explanation for Barry's lies about where he was on Mother's Day when contacted regarding Suzanne not being available via her phone. Let us remember to the humble Christian, "Satan is the father of all lies."

I gave this big lie of Barry's some consideration earlier by attempting to make sense of it. One conclusion that I came to was that Barry lied on purpose and with intention. Was his lying a set up? If he was deceptive about where he was and what he was doing, during this important watershed moment, then he'd lie about most anything. These are not altruistic lies. These are not harmless fibs.

Will he be seen in court as a big fat liar who also lied to the FBI? Perhaps he wants every utterance from his poisonous lips to be thought of as possibly being a lie. Some of Barry's friends and business associates in IN knew he was a liar. Suzanne knew he lied. Didn't his family also know he lied? Was the bracelet Suzanne found really one that belonged to his sister or does she prevaricate, also, ya know, for the greater good?

Will the jury consider any and everything he may have told the investigators and FBI to be important lies? How would the jury discern truth from fiction if he's caught red handed in various lies all along the way? Barry and the truth are not friends. The truth is not in him. Was all of this lying part of his devious plan all along?

My Sunday afternoon musings and specualtions only
.

I think he knew in advance that lying would be necessary, though some of it seems completely extraneous. This article is interesting regarding "pseudologia fantastica" and "mythomania": Pathological Liar: How to Cope with Someone’s Compulsive Lies

 

[Kemug]

Anyone born in 2012 would only be ten now. MM1 is sixteen I think? So born in 2006ish.

I do think it's possible that SM being told she was unlikely to conceive could have happened early on, during/following her first cancer fight around 1990, and then maybe she was told that again after MM1's birth. Maybe related to the earlier cancer, maybe unrelated. So both girls could have been perceived as 'miracle babies'.

MOO

Off topic a bit, I know, but I have a niece who was told 3 months before her marriage that she would probably never be able to have children - by their 3rd wedding anniversary they had 3 sons!

 

[Cindizzi]

Off topic a bit, I know, but I have a niece who was told 3 months before her marriage that she would probably never be able to have children - by their 3rd wedding anniversary they had 3 sons!

My Gosh! She sure showed them
3 blessings within 3 years. That’s awesome.