Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #95

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  • #501
These are details we just don't know.

What's seems apparant though is she did not want to open that bedroom door!

Why?

Concern that the cameras she suspected BM placing throughout the house revealed her activity with JL?

She was in the shower so unable?

Or she had a dreaded sense that his anger would play out in the worst way possible?

Another possibility is he did not break through door at that time and the frame was damaged during a previous event. I doubt it though. His phone went into airplane mode for a reason.
If he had any kind of gun aimed at her she would hace bolted and locked the door. IMO
 
  • #502
He is an excellent shooter but it seems manually injecting the tranquilizer dart would have given him optimum control.
On the other hand shooting the tranquilizer is more hands off.
His arm did have what appeared to be fingernail gouges so that indicates a possible headlock prior to manual injection.
Maybe Barry who considers himself a perfect shot missed? Divine intervention if you will. He would have manually jabbed her IMO and would never want to admit that he failed. IMO
 
  • #503
I don't know how I entirely missed that episode. I've heard bits and pieces but that's about it.
Can you spell it out for me, literally? Was she the one in the hot tub? Or, at the place they got take-out? Dayum, that's a missing missing piece of the puzzle for me but not sure of what it means, if anything.
She wore a wire and was the lady pictured with Barry leaving a restaurant. The conversation and fondling didn’t go the way Barry wanted so he said he couldn’t and lets go. Brave woman! IMO
 
  • #504
These are details we just don't know.

What's seems apparant though is she did not want to open that bedroom door!

Why?

Concern that the cameras she suspected BM placing throughout the house revealed her activity with JL?

She was in the shower so unable?

Or she had a dreaded sense that his anger would play out in the worst way possible?

Another possibility is he did not break through door at that time and the frame was damaged during a previous event. I doubt it though. His phone went into airplane mode for a reason.
I've also wondered about the door frame. I've never kicked in a door, so I might well be wrong, but I would suspect that there would also be noticeable damage to the door and the lock itself. It seems strange to me that the only damage would be a crack in the frame. So I do wonder if that came from a previous incident and the door & lock had been replaced or repaired since then.
 
  • #505
Suzanne says she is on WA, but JL waits 28 minutes and then responds via LinkedIn? Wouldn’t he have gone straight to WA as the next form of getting in touch? Did he ever go on WA? Did he try and Suzanne was not responding? That’s a big piece of a very important time puzzle. Something is up with that.

Wait up now... take note that JL had his own interruptions to deal with in his own Saturday afternoon environment which may or may not have prevented him from joining SM on WA.

IMO, whether JL joined SM or not, I believe SM made a video for JL that was also recorded by BM's spy camera. All that BM needed was confirmation that SM was "performing" for somebody that was not him. That was the sign he asked for to confirm in his mind he had no other choice but to end her life (to save SM).

At this point, I don't think it really matters whether or not JL joined SM on WA. We know that SM went silent from her phone at 2:11 pm, and shortly thereafter, silent from her phone apps. And JL continued sending messages for a couple of days that were never answered.

BM is a coward. I think he made a promise to himself that he would not act without a sign (i.e., allowing him to blame SM) where he believed he was saving her from damnation. After what he saw on his spy camera, if he allowed SM to live to divorce him, there would be no hope for SM to reach BM's heaven.

BM's one twisted, sick puppy! :eek:

MOO
 
  • #506
I've also wondered about the door frame. I've never kicked in a door, so I might well be wrong, but I would suspect that there would also be noticeable damage to the door and the lock itself. It seems strange to me that the only damage would be a crack in the frame. So I do wonder if that came from a previous incident and the door & lock had been replaced or repaired since then.
Agreed and it might have been earlier in the week although unlikely IMO. Surely Barry wouldn’t have done that with a daughter at home? Giving him the benefit of the doubt no matter how hard it is. IMO
 
  • #507
I watched an interview of her stepbrother TO and he mentioned her faith being important to her and there was a sense of an authenticity in her life reflecting her beliefs.

Barry's cousin's beliefs are admittedly not those of Suzanne's so his description is coming from his worldview, too.

Opinions can vary even when two people experience the same set of events.

ETA
The testimony BMs cousin referenced is one many who knew SM said she spoke of
often...

JMO
I never said their experiences were the same or that religion in general wasn't important to Suzanne.
Just wanted to clear that up.
 
  • #508
I've also wondered about the door frame. I've never kicked in a door, so I might well be wrong, but I would suspect that there would also be noticeable damage to the door and the lock itself. It seems strange to me that the only damage would be a crack in the frame. So I do wonder if that came from a previous incident and the door & lock had been replaced or repaired since then.
IMO, it's not the door. The point of impact is at the door locking mechanism. That's about where wood frame splits and wood fracture bleeds the frame. JMO
 
  • #509
I don't know how I entirely missed that episode. I've heard bits and pieces but that's about it.
Can you spell it out for me, literally? Was she the one in the hot tub? Or, at the place they got take-out? Dayum, that's a missing missing piece of the puzzle for me but not sure of what it means, if anything.
Page 57 of the AA:

(Holly Wilson) From October 2020 through December 2020, Holly Wilson recorded her phone and in-person conversations with Barry, providing those recordings to SA Grusing.

Holly and her husband, Jeff Wilson, knew Barry and Suzanne well through their church in Indiana.

During these recordings, Barry told Holly words to the effect, "you are Suzanne to me," he held her hand while in the car, gave her a kiss good night, told her Suzanne would approve of whatever would happen in their relationship, and twice touched Holly's breasts, pretending like the touches were accidents when her husband's head was turned away or not looking.
 
  • #510
I've also wondered about the door frame. I've never kicked in a door, so I might well be wrong, but I would suspect that there would also be noticeable damage to the door and the lock itself. It seems strange to me that the only damage would be a crack in the frame. So I do wonder if that came from a previous incident and the door & lock had been replaced or repaired since then.

I don't know the ramifications of a kicked in door either.
Damage from such an event might depend on hardness of the wood used for framing and the solidness of the lock itself.
The previous owners were noted in the AA as saying the door frame wasn't damaged when the home was sold to the Morphews.
 
  • #511
IMO, it's not the door. The point of impact is at the door locking mechanism. That's about where wood frame splits and wood fracture bleeds the frame. JMO
It’s interesting in and of itself. He could have literally broken dwn the entire door but instead we have a broken casing. Similar to the rage he must have felt exiting the truck and pounding every entrance in quick succession. IMO
Etb damn autocorrect lol
 
  • #512
Page 57 of the AA:

(Holly Wilson) From October 2020 through December 2020, Holly Wilson recorded her phone and in-person conversations with Barry, providing those recordings to SA Grusing.

Holly and her husband, Jeff Wilson, knew Barry and Suzanne well through their church in Indiana.

During these recordings, Barry told Holly words to the effect, "you are Suzanne to me," he held her hand while in the car, gave her a kiss good night, told her Suzanne would approve of whatever would happen in their relationship, and twice touched Holly's breasts, pretending like the touches were accidents when her husband's head was turned away or not looking.
Another Jeff in Barry’s mind. The turmoil must have been astronomical. IMO
 
  • #513
I don’t know. There are so many factors. I don’t think that Barry would have given up half of anything. I think if Suzanne would have left Barry, his crafted image would have been destroyed-also unacceptable to him. Was it anger about an affair? But I am intrigued most by what Barry’s thoughts might be about Suzanne leaving G-d. Did he believe he was saving Suzanne for eternity?
Yes, you saying "his crafted image would have been destroyed" - when you think about it, that is indeed what would have happened when Suzanne left him. He would no longer have the gorgeous wife and the perfect (and obedient) Godly family (which he was the head of), he would be living in a smaller and more humble house, and he would only have half the money he felt entitled to. Add to that the fact that in a divorce (or even just a separation), things would have probably come out which didn't make Barry look good. No, he couldn't have that.
 
  • #514
As @sk716 posted in January

"I need to go ahead and drop the bomb, but JL lied. A lot. Some of them made it into the AA. According to the defenses call logs, they (SM & JL) never cut communication. The defense is going to hammer this and make JL an unreliable witness.(PH Plunder Transcripts)"

JL lied...we already know he did from the PH. Barry will never tell the truth and neither will JL , for all we know he could have witnessed her death.
But how is the Defense going to paint him as unreliable? And to what end? I’m not sure what that means, He can’t be trusted to tell the truth about ANYTHING regarding SM?
Does the Defense consider him an alternate suspect?

From his interviews in the AA, JL only said that he and SM stopped communicating in “ late 2018” until Christmas 2018 when his daughter saw something on his phone. “ Late” in the year until Christmas could be what ? A month or two ?
JL also says they quit communicating BY PHONE in 2019. That’s when they started using Apps. But he admits that they communicated regularly from 2018 until May 9, 2019.

MOO /JMO
 

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  • #515
The bathing suit she was wearing in the proof of life photo was hanging up. That tells me she almost certainly wasn't murdered while wearing it.

If she wasn't wearing it when she was murdered, then she must have already taken it off and hung it back up.

I think she changed during that time.
Right !!

But what the heck was she wearing ??

We do not know.

BM said that they had a nice evening, dinner, "Sex" etc

BM said, Suzanne does NOT sleep nude.

BM went to sleep after Sex and left at 5AM and he does not know what his wife is wearing the last time he saw her.

UhmHum Yeppers.... OK BM

So, BM-- what exactly was she wearing the last time you saw her ??

BM description per what he wrote on back of receipt.
Huh Huh... what kind of biking clothing ? what color ??

BM had never been able to answer this question, to my recollection.
poncha-note.jpg
 
  • #516
@marylamby

Respectfully, I never said that you did.

I was pointing out that Suzanne and Barry's cousin come from different faith perspectives.

What Suzanne might feel at ease doing others would not.

Suzanne's testimony and her sharing it has been discussed by many who knew her. So much so it became a part of her identity both personally and as a mother.
 
  • #517
I agree....In my own opinion I think he had the state of mind that she was not going to make it through her second cancer bout.

That recovery threw a wrench into his financial termoils.
Yes, he wasn't expecting her to survive a second bout of cancer. He probably thought "Oh well, poor Suzanne, she is a lovely girl. But these things happen. No doubt I'll marry again, and at least I'll have all the money now."
 
  • #518
Thanks! I thought I was in the criminal instructions. However, as you are doubtless aware, the standard instructions for criminal cases also prohibit speculation and require inferences to be based on evidence. RSBM, BBM:

E:03 PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE, BURDEN OF PROOF, AND REASONABLE DOUBT

"...

The burden of proof is upon the prosecution to prove to the satisfaction of the jury beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of all of the elements necessary to constitute the crime charged.

Reasonable doubt means a doubt based upon reason and common sense which arises from a fair and rational consideration of all of the evidence, or the lack of evidence, in the case. It is a doubt which is not a vague, speculative or imaginary doubt, but such a doubt as would cause reasonable people to hesitate to act in matters of importance to themselves.

..."

D:11 INFERENCES—GENERAL

A permissible inference allows, but does not require, you to find a fact from proof of another fact or facts, if that conclusion is justified by the evidence as a whole. It is entirely your decision to determine what weight shall be given the evidence.

..".

I am aware that the pattern jury instructions are sometimes modified by the judge after hearing from both parties. But these two would seem to be so fundamental as to require no amendment.

I would be interested to hear about a case in which speculation was allowed!


I would be interested to hear about a case in which speculation was allowed!

Strangely enough, Prosecutors often have to use 'speculation' when describing their case to the jury. And they will even admit that some of it is based upon speculation.

Sometimes they do not know what the motive was, or exactly how the victim was killed, or even where the body might be.

In spite of that, they are forced to set forth their case in chief, which may sometimes include speculation, in order to fill gaps in the known information.

For example, in the trial of Chase Merritt, who was accused of killing the entire McStay family, the State had to rely upon speculation for some of the main events. The defense called them out for not having solid answers for how one man overpowered the family by himself. And they did not know for certain WHERE or exactly WHEN the murder of Joseph McStay took place. It may have been earlier in the day and before the murders of the wife and boys. They were not sure. So the theory they offered was based upon some speculation.

They did not know how the killer cleaned up the home so thoroughly that the forensics team never found a hint of the 4 murders. Lots of speculation about that and some of it made it into the trial. Sometimes the prosecution does have to speculate and offer it to the jury as a potential explanation. JMO
 
  • #519
To tell someone your wife has an orgasm every time you have sex with her is laughable and immediately sounds like a lie (sorry guys). He sounds like a boy, a fool. Imo
To say that to anyone (apart perhaps from a sex/marriage counsellor or similar) is absolutely gross IMO.
 
  • #520
Right !!

But what the heck was she wearing ??

We do not know.

BM said that they had a nice evening, dinner, "Sex" etc

BM said, Suzanne does NOT sleep nude.

BM went to sleep after Sex and left at 5AM and he does not know what his wife is wearing the last time he saw her.

UhmHum Yeppers.... OK BM

So, BM-- what exactly was she wearing the last time you saw her ??

BM description per what he wrote on back of receipt.
Huh Huh... what kind of biking clothing ? what color ??

BM had never been able to answer this question, to my recollection.
poncha-note.jpg
He was never sure about what she wore to bed or even what his last words to her were, but he was very specific on May 13 when he told LE what she “ probably “ wore on her “ bike ride “.
 

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