Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #95

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  • #581
No you are extrapolating and attaching something I was not inferring. I was referring to people connected to the case who might possibly be witnesses...not just Suzanne who is presumed to be dead...seem to have issues that may or may not impact their credibility as witnesses...both for prosecution and for defense. There was no mention of Barry...he's already charged with her murder...I think that is a pretty big "issue" for him and he won't be testifying.
I'm not sure who you're suggesting isn't reliable or credible?
 
  • #582
Thank you! I knew you would find it quicker than I could.

So the selfie SM took in her closet was texted to JL on Saturday May 9 around 8:21 a.m.

That seems accurate based on the AA and PH.

There are a couple of selfies in the AA that we didn't get color versions in the PH dump. None of them appear to be in a closet, cropped too close to tell on one. One is certainly in the kitchen, antelope head. So there are more selfies out there.
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  • #583
This is a hoot @MassGuy that you went out and got a trail cam. I see how much all of us are learning from following this case.

Also, I haven't watched a Columbo episode in years, but watched one last week. I was reminded how he seems to immediately glom onto who the guilty party is. I'm not saying that's typical for LE, but it sure seems like Grusing et al channeled their inner Columbo in this instance.

And on a more serious note, that spy camera and BM's strange take on religion reminded me of Robert Hanssen. Didn't he try to convert strippers and didn't he put a spy camera up in his bedroom to film sex with his wife? Hanssen didn't murder his wife. He just spied for Russia.

Watching the body cam footage Barry makes himself a suspect right out of the truck.

Something we haven't really talked about but it's been nagging at me. Barry was more interested in wandering around with GD than he was with demanding LE find his wife.

He hops out of the truck and puts on his performance and without demanding to know what's being done. It took me this long to realize it. He asks if they checked the house, but it's in response to something the Deputy said. He doesn't ever ask any member of LE what's being done to find his wife.

 
  • #584
Maybe she uninstalled and reinstalled WhatsApp each time? Seems odd phrasing 'load up' I don't load mine up, it's just there once installed (personally find it annoying and really creeps me out ;) but is convenient) seems she may go to that length to keep her relationship with JL hidden and I don't think Barry mentioned it as an app she used? I remember Snapchat and Facebook but don't recall WhatsApp, not that means anything :rolleyes::p

moo
fwiw, I googled whatsapp and iphone and got a lot of results on it using lots of battery power and that to get it to work correctly, low power mode needs to be disabled. When finished, the recommendations were to log out and close the app. Something like that may have been what she was referring to as "load" - i.e., open the app and log in and disabling low power mode if not largely charged. JMO.
 
  • #585
I agree. I think they had a big fight Friday night that put Barry in a foul mood Saturday morning and so he knocked off work.
Just the way Barry talks about sex constantly in the AA, the way he said sex is all a man needs, and the fact Suzanne sent him a text earlier in the week that said “We’re done”, my guess would be he initiated sex with her on Friday night and she said NO.

JL told investigators that SM told him she would not cut Barry off completely (I’m guessing because of fear). I think when she told Barry they were done, she meant it.

I’m sure that would have made the old bear grumpy. After all, that’s all he needed.
 
  • #586
I'm not sure who you're suggesting isn't reliable or credible?

I am not the OP but IMO I think they crowd she is referring to are the ones she deemed not “saintly”.
Not sure of that definition though – seems like it might encompass all of us ?
I believe her point is that the jury may have a hard time believing some of the witnesses–
So far we only have the five hundred or so witnesses listed and submitted in discovery for the prosecution
I think Defense has until March sometime to produce their list

IMO the jury will be also made up of non “saintly” types too so things should go just fine
 
  • #587
It’s interesting in and of itself. He could have literally broken dwn the entire door but instead we have a broken casing. Similar to the rage he must have felt exiting the truck and pounding every entrance in quick succession. IMO
Etb damn autocorrect lol


The interiors doors look to be solid pine.
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The door frame also looks to be knotty pine but a lower quality wood, so the extra weight of the solid wood door would be too much for the frame to bear and it split along the most convenient path. If the original builder had picked out a higher quality wood frame, it probably wouldn't have split and we wouldn't have any idea that at some point, he busted in that door.
 
  • #588
Re: The Broken Doorframe. Did you know there is a YT video entitled, "How To Replace And Repair Broken Door Jamb Kicked In Or Damaged"? Go figure. Anyhow, the fracture lines shown in several videos I watched are very similar to the damage shown in the AA.

As @Seattle1 pointed out, the force of banging/kicking on the door is transmitted to the hardware. Your objective is to allow enough wiggling of the latchplate so that the latch will disengage. The latchplate is typically held to the frame with two screws. Those two screws end up taking all the stress. Wood will typically split along the stress points, so it make sense to see that vertical split in the frame going through both the screw penetrations.

If this damage occured May 9, BM would likely have had to tighten the screws as part of his cover up.


BBM. Replying to my own post since I let the edit function time out.

What I called the "latchplate" above is more properly called the "strike".
 
  • #589
I am not the OP but IMO I think they crowd she is referring to are the ones she deemed not “saintly”.
Not sure of that definition though – seems like it might encompass all of us ?
I believe her point is that the jury may have a hard time believing some of the witnesses–
So far we only have the five hundred or so witnesses listed and submitted in discovery for the prosecution
I think Defense has until March sometime to produce their list

IMO the jury will be also made up of non “saintly” types too so things should go just fine
Don't try to read too much into it - it was a general comment about potential witnesses and potential credibility issues....we can have a lively discussion when we know who the witnesses actually are. A date was set for prosecution to delivery their witness list and I think the defense's date was 2 weeks later if I can remember.
 
  • #590
Q Eytan: As you can see on May 7th, Ms. Morphew continues to text message between Mr. Libler a lot of the day, correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: But you remember from looking at the investigation that — and in your timeline — that at 4:43 on May 7th Ms. Morphew lets her husband, Barry, know she’s been studying all afternoon and had veggie soup on for dinner. You recall that?

A Harris: Yes, I recall that statement.



Q Eytan: And Ms. Morphew’s next report about Barry beingbetween the report about Barry to Mr. Libler is on May 9th at 8:21 am, the next report about Barry where she says to Mr. Libler after he asked her how her night was and she said, “I had a fine, quiet night. Picked up pizza and looked around town at houses for sale. Still talk of Arizona.” Correct?


A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: So Ms. Morphew is telling Mr. Libler that she had a fine night with Mr. Morphew on May 8th, correct?

A Harris: Yes.

MR. LINDSEY: Judge, I’m going to object. That’s very much speculation. Fine evening does not mean anything other than she had a fine evening and who she was with, or who she wasn’t with, it’s not in the text, that’s complete speculation.

THE COURT: It would help if we could get the testimony about the pizza. That got very confused because you had the date wrong.

So I think if we can establish that they had pizza on the 8th and on the 9th she said she had a fine night, I had pizza there’s a link there, but we don’t have the pizza part yet.

MS EYTAN: Okay.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: On May 8th at 7:15 pm Ms. Morphew lets Mr. Libler know that she can talk to him on WhatsApp.

A Harris: You said 7:15 on May 8th.

Q Eytan: Okay, we’re going to move off the pizza. Okay? let’s move to Suzanne’s secret bank account. On April 23, 2020. Suzanne’s Gmail account received a statement from her Green Dot account, correct?

A Harris: I’m actually —

MR. LINDSEY: I’m going to object. This is beyond the scope.


Something bothers me about that "fine, quiet night". On page 116 or 117 of the AA, it says:
Other topics covered in the audit included: Barry’s purchase of the VPN; Barry deleting calls from his call logs; why Barry initially thought his big argument with Suzanne was on Friday; evidence through Libler messages of other arguments (daily) that week, how long Suzanne was “distant and unloving;” if Barry and Suzanne were separate on Wednesday and Friday evenings based on their cell phones; discrepancies in his calls to Gene Moorman; evidence pointing to Barry sending the Facebook “friends”
Were BM and SM in the same house Friday night? If not, where was BM? What cell phone info suggested they might not be at the same place?
 
  • #591
The interiors doors look to be solid pine.
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The door frame also looks to be knotty pine but a lower quality wood, so the extra weight of the solid wood door would be too much for the frame to bear and it split along the most convenient path. If the original builder had picked out a higher quality wood frame, it probably wouldn't have split and we wouldn't have any idea that at some point, he busted in that door.
I was thinking the doors and trim look like rough alder (i.e., with knots), finished in a natural or light stain. Used in LOTS of timber style homes in the west built around the time frame that house was built (2008). Like pine, a softer wood.
 
  • #592
I have been bothered by the text messages and assigned times also not only on the 9th but starting around the 6th. I am bothered by her purse left in the car. I wonder if she took her bike off her vehicle and put it back on everyday. Lotsa questions.

I recall maybe it was an interview that Barry said she asked him to take the bike out of the car that day and he did (speaking of Saturday). So this could be one of two things:

She really did ask him to do that, but when? He didn't actually come home for lunch he was parked down from their house and that is when he wandered the woods looking for the turkey. When he returned from DSI, is when I think he killed her nearly immediately so no time for her to ask then. Was it before he left for work?

Or she never asked him to do that and he needed a reason why his prints would be on her bike so he said, he took the bike out of the car for her some time on Saturday.

If the bike was in the car on Saturday and so was her snacks, her water, her helmet, then she was maybe preparing to go ride after the conversations with JL. It would fit with her time of usually biking in the later afternoon time (vs when Barry said she went at 8 or 9am).
 
  • #593
Something bothers me about that "fine, quiet night". On page 116 or 117 of the AA, it says:
Other topics covered in the audit included: Barry’s purchase of the VPN; Barry deleting calls from his call logs; why Barry initially thought his big argument with Suzanne was on Friday; evidence through Libler messages of other arguments (daily) that week, how long Suzanne was “distant and unloving;” if Barry and Suzanne were separate on Wednesday and Friday evenings based on their cell phones; discrepancies in his calls to Gene Moorman; evidence pointing to Barry sending the Facebook “friends”
Were BM and SM in the same house Friday night? If not, where was BM? What cell phone info suggested they might not be at the same place?

He was down at the river hacking her Facebook.
 
  • #594
I was thinking the doors and trim look like rough alder (i.e., with knots), finished in a natural or light stain. Used in LOTS of timber style homes in the west built around the time frame that house was built (2008). Like pine, a softer wood.

You're correct Alder is totally an possibility, too. Very similar as far as weight and splitting go.
 
  • #595
People Believing in BM's Innocence?
BUT there seem to be several buddies of BM, male or female, who support him and believe in his innocence. They like the smell. ;)
@FromGermany1 Thanks for your thought provoking post.

In summer/fall 2020, I recall stmts of support but since then, not so much, leaving me to wonder who ^ post refers to, aside from relatives,* and well Sho.Da.

Other names/initials to share?
And their specific stmts/actions showing belief in his innocence? When?
Anyone? @FromGermany1 ? TiA.

I must be overlooking some people or info, or misinterpreting something as I inadvertently do from time to time.
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* BM's dau's MM1 & MM2, Mother, sister(s?), local pal GD.
 
  • #596
Something bothers me about that "fine, quiet night". On page 116 or 117 of the AA, it says:
Other topics covered in the audit included: Barry’s purchase of the VPN; Barry deleting calls from his call logs; why Barry initially thought his big argument with Suzanne was on Friday; evidence through Libler messages of other arguments (daily) that week, how long Suzanne was “distant and unloving;” if Barry and Suzanne were separate on Wednesday and Friday evenings based on their cell phones; discrepancies in his calls to Gene Moorman; evidence pointing to Barry sending the Facebook “friends”
Were BM and SM in the same house Friday night? If not, where was BM? What cell phone info suggested they might not be at the same place?

What is odd is that is the night they had pizza at Moonlight pizza and she sent the photo of him in line to the girls. So I guess that doesn't mean they both went to the house that night, but they met for dinner at least. I also believe that is the day she met him at a job site to see the progress or something and they then went for pizza and salads.
 
  • #597
I recall maybe it was an interview that Barry said she asked him to take the bike out of the car that day and he did (speaking of Saturday). So this could be one of two things:

She really did ask him to do that, but when? He didn't actually come home for lunch he was parked down from their house and that is when he wandered the woods looking for the turkey. When he returned from DSI, is when I think he killed her nearly immediately so no time for her to ask then. Was it before he left for work?

Or she never asked him to do that and he needed a reason why his prints would be on her bike so he said, he took the bike out of the car for her some time on Saturday.

If the bike was in the car on Saturday and so was her snacks, her water, her helmet, then she was maybe preparing to go ride after the conversations with JL. It would fit with her time of usually biking in the later afternoon time (vs when Barry said she went at 8 or 9am).

There was a lot of discussion about the bike and Suzanne's RR early on. There is not a bike rack on Suzanne's RR.
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The bike is a high end brand and quite expensive. Considering her purse, Camelbak, and riding sunglasses were in the car it's probable that since Suzanne biked daily, she kept the bike in the back of her RR.

IMO, Barry told the bike lie to explain why his fingerprints were on it and the helmet.

 
  • #598
Jumping forward to trial...

Regarding evidence I'm leaning toward no smoking gun but instead expect to hear testimony that will give greater understanding to what's already been revealed.

My biggest surprise so far is the lack of evidence showing very shady financial practices though I believe money is a big motive for her murder.

An early wildcard I thought might have contributed to Suzanne being attacked was rhoid rage due to steroid use. This was pure speculation that never presented as evidence. I only thought this a possibility due to BMs physical build and its possible use as a muscle building enhancer.

Though defense counsel is excellent I am confident a competent prosecution can secure guilty verdict.

IMO he is guilty. I wish he would be honest about what really happened, reveal Suzanne’s location and allow her to have a proper burial.
This would be best for everyone and I think people would have respect for Barry doing so.

JMO
 
  • #599
I don't like to spell them all out on the timeline because after awhile, I really started to feel like I was prying into other people's private business. I went ahead and plugged that whole block of PH text into the "I'm on WA" timeline entry details.
I’m thankful for the timeline but sure do agree about looking at the personal texts between SM and JL. I don’t really want to know what they were doing or how it was done. It’s crazy what people consider sharing on apps when it so personal, imo.
 
  • #600
People Believing in BM's Innocence?
@FromGermany1 Thanks for your thought provoking post.

In summer/fall 2020, I recall stmts of support but since then, not so much, leaving me to wonder who ^ post refers to, aside from relatives,* and well Sho.Da.

Other names/initials to share?
And their specific stmts/actions showing belief in his innocence? When?
Anyone? @FromGermany1 ? TiA.

I must be overlooking some people or info, or misinterpreting something as I inadvertently do from time to time.
_____________________________________
* BM's dau's MM1 & MM2, Mother, sister(s?), local pal GD.

Not the OP, but jumping in with what I've seen. BM does have some support on a social media site that I follow. I don't think some have followed this as closely as some of us have, so I don't feel like they are reaching a completely informed opinion. Haven't read the AA, haven't looked at a timeline, etc. One of his staunchest supporters would be familiar to many of us, he has been outspoken in support previously and was still showing support very recently. I would characterize some of the support more along the lines of the prosecution not presenting well vs BM is innocent. At least that was my take on it.

And of course, still some who wouldn't believe it was BM even if they were shown a video.

All MOO
 
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