Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #97

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  • #221
If he gets acquitted I believe your words will become his reality.
If he is convicted, the harsh reality may set in.
he can’t be in control in prison.
Replying to myself…I wonder how Patrick Frazee is doing in prison. 152 years to serve yet. :rolleyes:
 
  • #222
IIRC the Patrick Frazee case had recovered biological evidence and of course K Lee as a vile witness for the state.

I really wish SM's case had some kind of biological evidence. IMO
 
  • #223
If that’s true, I am grateful he isn’t related to me. To set aside my beliefs in order to accommodate him as a family member who murdered his wife and the mother of his children would destroy my soul.
Of course...back to the prioritizing....I specified "those who believe he is innocent". If the stipulation were "those who believe he should be found not guilty"....then the number of people goes up quite a bit...again, especially among those who know him best.
 
  • #224
bbm
Can we say, that at 10:48 AM his final plan probably was completed in his mind?

Yes, I believe that. He also told MG during this work day, I believe in the car when he dropped her off that he could hide a body or bury a body and nobody would ever find it. I know that is second hand info since MG reported that and it wasn't recorded, but if she told LE that early on, it seems reliable IMO.
 
  • #225
I have also given his psyche some thought. IMO, there must be quite an internal conflict going on; having to play the innocent father, yet knowing their mother is gone by your hands. And to profess his belief in God; its very complex and deeply troubling.
It is complex and troubling to us and to most people. But I don't think BM is like most people.

IMO, he is a true and primitive predator who does whatever he wants to do regardless of what he represents to others. He KNOWS what is socially acceptable (so pretends to behave in that way, and not very convincingly for anyone paying attention with the slightest degree of skepticism), but in truth believes that those boundaries are for the "always on the losing end" suckers that make up most of society.

IMO.
 
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Of course...back to the prioritizing....I specified "those who believe he is innocent". If the stipulation were "those who believe he should be found not guilty"....then the number of people goes up quite a bit...again, especially among those who know him best.

I am no medical professional or anyone qualified to diagnose anyone, but just on my own personal interactions with manipulative people.. I think sometimes those closest to a person don't see it because they aren't the target of the abusive person. Often people can be one way with their target and a very different person with everyone else. Doing all things for everyone else, bending over backwards to help others, put on a smile, be the "nice guy" and the "family man" and it really can do a number on the people that don't see the bad side. Maybe they get tiny hints of it, but the good in their mind about that person don't line up with what they are being accused of. Add in the whole world seeming to be against that person you only see the good in, I think it can make people dig in even harder to support the person. Maybe deep down they have the "what if " thoughts, but outwardly they are going to be seen as strong for the accused.

I also wonder if his lawyers have sat down with many of these supporters (meaning his close friends and family) to talk about how they should be seen, what they should or shouldn't say online or to media/news).
 
  • #228
IIRC the Patrick Frazee case had recovered biological evidence and of course K Lee as a vile witness for the state.

I really wish SM's case had some kind of biological evidence. IMO
Don’t we all.
 
  • #229
It goes beyond BM's "absolute refusal"...which you correctly noted: It is also BM's often expressed declaration that "marriage is for life". That can and should be interpreted in the literal sense.

That would make a great bumper sticker!

“I’m a godly man. And you better make sure that you want me, because it’s for life.” - Barry Morphew​
 
  • #230
Thank you.
Just for clarification, the body cam footage was with the daughter’s boyfriend, not Barry. It was earlier in the day before Barry arrived.
Around 5 1/2 minutes.
I’m pretty sure this has been linked previously with permission from mods. If not, my apologies again.

If a page goes by that this video isn't posted, Barry's already in prison.
 
  • #231
If that’s true, I am grateful he isn’t related to me. To set aside my beliefs in order to accommodate him as a family member who murdered his wife and the mother of his children would destroy my soul.
Of course...back to the prioritizing....I specified "those who believe he is innocent". If the stipulation were "those who believe he should be found not guilty"....then the number of people goes up quite a bit...again, especially among those who know him best.
Yes, I believe that. He also told MG during this work day, I believe in the car when he dropped her off that he could hide a body or bury a body and nobody would ever find it. I know that is second hand info since MG reported that and it wasn't recorded, but if she told LE that early on, it seems reliable IMO.
I believe the beginning of the "execution phase" of the plan was completed at 10:48am. The decision happened a number of days earlier, imo....when Suzanne wanted to "figure this out"...."civilly". I believe the decision to end her was settled at that time...the implementation started Saturday morning....jmo.
 
  • #232
It is complex and troubling to us and to most people. But I don't think BM is like most people.

IMO, he is a true and primitive predator who does whatever he wants to do regardless of what he represents to others. He KNOWS what is socially acceptable (so pretends to behave in that way, and not very convincingly for anyone paying attention with the slightest degree of skepticism), but in truth believes that those boundaries are for the "always on the losing end" suckers that make up most of society.

IMO.

Reflecting upon what you’ve posted brings up a whole other thought that’s bothered me for some time. I would love to hear @oldcop’s opinion of my thought or Agent Grusing. I’ve wondered if he killed before by hunting for his prey. And I am not referring to animals. I have a certain case in mind. Just can’t shake the thought. I also think he planned her murder and it wasn’t a moment of passion. After all, he did tell MG he could hide a body. What makes a human being think that way?
 
  • #233
I have also given his psyche some thought. IMO, there must be quite an internal conflict going on; having to play the innocent father, yet knowing their mother is gone by your hands. And to profess his belief in God; its very complex and deeply troubling.

I'd love to know what a psychiatrist thinks about Barry. In those interviews with LE where he seems to come to a realization about her affair and then makes statements about it making sense and suggesting this was God's plan because Suzanne had an affair. Oye if he knew the bible at all or had any true understanding or healthy relationship with God, he'd know that God does no punish people for their sins like this. If so we all would be gone. Just biblically speaking, all "sin" is equal so adultery is no different than lusting after another woman. Barry sure has enough of his own sins that he admits too. Wonder what he thinks his punishment should be for all of that? God must think so favorably of him... NOT.

Either he really believes all this twisted interpretation of God and is living by that

OR

He is a big fake faker who uses God as a way to rationalize what Barry wants to do/think and what benefits Barry's motive..

I think the second is true. I'd be curious what a trained professional thinks
 
  • #234
I am no medical professional or anyone qualified to diagnose anyone, but just on my own personal interactions with manipulative people.. I think sometimes those closest to a person don't see it because they aren't the target of the abusive person. Often people can be one way with their target and a very different person with everyone else. Doing all things for everyone else, bending over backwards to help others, put on a smile, be the "nice guy" and the "family man" and it really can do a number on the people that don't see the bad side. Maybe they get tiny hints of it, but the good in their mind about that person don't line up with what they are being accused of. Add in the whole world seeming to be against that person you only see the good in, I think it can make people dig in even harder to support the person. Maybe deep down they have the "what if " thoughts, but outwardly they are going to be seen as strong for the accused.

I also wonder if his lawyers have sat down with many of these supporters (meaning his close friends and family) to talk about how they should be seen, what they should or shouldn't say online or to media/news).
My Dad had a phrase for people like him - Street angel, house devil.
You never know what goes on behind closed doors.
 
  • #235
Hmmm…..let’s count!
BM’s two sisters and mother = 3
MM1 & MM2 = 2 (3+2 = 5, well that’s one hand :))

Then there’s TS and another friend from IN = 2

Ok, how about two hands?? :p Can we think of anymore?

The Cushman's
 
  • #236
I'd love to know what a psychiatrist thinks about Barry. In those interviews with LE where he seems to come to a realization about her affair and then makes statements about it making sense and suggesting this was God's plan because Suzanne had an affair. Oye if he knew the bible at all or had any true understanding or healthy relationship with God, he'd know that God does no punish people for their sins like this. If so we all would be gone. Just biblically speaking, all "sin" is equal so adultery is no different than lusting after another woman. Barry sure has enough of his own sins that he admits too. Wonder what he thinks his punishment should be for all of that? God must think so favorably of him... NOT.

Either he really believes all this twisted interpretation of God and is living by that

OR

He is a big fake faker who uses God as a way to rationalize what Barry wants to do/think and what benefits Barry's motive..

I think the second is true. I'd be curious what a trained professional thinks
Suzanne herself referenced Barry's use of the bible in order to control and manipulate her. ...and no one knows Barry better than Suzanne.
 
  • #237
That would make a great bumper sticker!

“I’m a godly man. And you better make sure that you want me, because it’s for life.” - Barry Morphew​
Or another one:
- "The Ten Commandments - they're not for everyone" -BM
 
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  • #239
That would make a great bumper sticker!

“I’m a godly man. And you better make sure that you want me, because it’s for life.” - Barry Morphew​

This statement would be viewed very differently if he actually meant he would do everything in his power to support, love, protect, and understand her.. if he meant for the rest of his life he would find ways to show her how much he loved her and in the way SHE needed to be loved. If he meant good and bad times he would seek therapy, put her needs first, etc. Instead he meant Suzanne would have a life sentence of putting up with his controlling and ridiculous behavior and she would go along with it or else.. or else he would end her life.
 
  • #240
Reflecting upon what you’ve posted brings up a whole other thought that’s bothered me for some time. I would love to hear @oldcop’s opinion of my thought or Agent Grusing. I’ve wondered if he killed before by hunting for his prey. And I am not referring to animals. I have a certain case in mind. Just can’t shake the thought. I also think he planned her murder and it wasn’t a moment of passion. After all, he did tell MG he could hide a body. What makes a human being think that way?
I wonder if we both have the same certain case in mind. I also can't shake that thought.
 
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