Exactly.You know, if I were Barry, and considering that Suzanne had just announced her intention to leave, I think that my first reaction would be to assume that she had.
Exactly.You know, if I were Barry, and considering that Suzanne had just announced her intention to leave, I think that my first reaction would be to assume that she had.
The case against Donthe Lucas in the murder of Kelsie Schelling in CO was circumstantial and there was NO body. A witness, Roxann Martinez, was shot and killed a week before she was to testify. It was not a smooth investigation either.Yes. I don't think there is much evidence available, it was all circumstantial anyway. Without a body, they have nothing.
This statement was made by Judge M ONLY because there was some question surrounding the partial matches of DNA to someone, somewhere. That point is now moot as it was NOT linked to any sexual predator.BBM. Even Judge Murphy knew there was not enough evidence to convict.
He also had her phone with his and he was caught taking money out of account at an ATM. And he admitted he moved her car.The case against Donthe Lucas in the murder of Kelsie Schelling in CO was circumstantial and there was NO body. A witness, Roxann Martinez, was shot and killed a week before she was to testify. It was not a smooth investigation either.
He’s sitting in jail for the rest of his days. Hopefully, it won’t be too long before the Bare makes his acquaintance.
Personally, I’m not concerned about a refiling of the charges against BM. It may take some time as the prosecution need to get organized to ensure there is no repeat of the previous deficiencies. I think there is more than enough circumstantial evidence to convict “that man“ (not sorry you don’t like that term, IE) even without recovering the remains. We can be confident the prosecution has more evidence than we know that will come out during a trial.
Finding SM’s remains would be awesome for her family, even miraculous, however, who will LE release her remains to once LE are finished with forensics? I cringe to think that BM will have control over her burial and “celebration of life” if not already rearrested. I appreciate the need and right for the daughters to lay their mother to rest, but I envision “that man” excluding the Moormans from being part of the ceremony. He is a VERY cruel man and I can see him doing that. JMO
And of the 341 missing persons in Colorado, are there any viable suspects in the disappearances? Have any charges been filed against any person, despite no body? That would be a more accurate comparison.It is possible yes. There are 341 missing persons including Suzanne in NAMUS in Colorado alone.
True, but no doubt there’s more evidence in this case than we know of at this point. Why was the Bare so very concerned about MG giving LE her phone and then firing her because she did? Did he pad her pay for the work at the river property and her time in Broomfield in an attempt to buy her loyalty? So very glad she cooperated even if she didn’t take a LDT. She stated she was afraid of him. That alone speaks volumes.He also had her phone with his and he was caught taking money out of account at an ATM. And he admitted he moved her car.
I don’t know for certain, but I also suspect that these 341 missing persons don’t have much in common with Suzanne’s “disappearance”.And of the 341 missing persons in Colorado, are there any viable suspects in the disappearances? Have any charges been filed against any person, despite no body? That would be a more accurate comparison.
JMO
I wish she would take a lie detector test and be completely truthful. I understand she is afraid of BM and LE both but she was holding back something in the beginning.True, but no doubt there’s more evidence in this case than we know of at this point. Why was the Bare so very concerned about MG giving LE her phone and then firing her because she did? Did he pad her pay for the work at the river property and her time in Broomfield in an attempt to buy her loyalty? So very glad she cooperated even if she didn’t take an LDT. She stated she was afraid of him. That alone speaks volumes.
Can’t wait for the trial, whenever that may happen.
They had a mountain of circumstantial evidence. You are correct.They had a tremendous amount of circumstantial evidence. IMO, they didn’t need her body. But the defense said discovery was slow and the judge sanctioned the prosecutor by pulling 14 of her 16 experts testimonies. How could she try a case that way? I’m not saying the DA didn’t have missteps but this judge (Lama) sided repeatedly with defense. And yet the previous judge said there was much cause to prosecute him!
It’s only a guess but if Suzanne is found, several tests will be run on the remains to find evidence, cause of death, etc before case is refiled.
If body is not found, I still look for the DA to retry him and not let Suzanne’s family and local residents down by allowing a killer to roam freely.
I think she was being truthful for the most part. I respect her for handing over her phone. Obviously, Bare was concerned about that for some reason. Perhaps she didn’t want to get into questions with regard to any drug use or dealings given that she has children and may fear loss of custody or other repercussions. When this goes to trial, I have no doubt IE will attempt to rip her apart.I wish she would take a lie detector test and be completely truthful. I understand she is afraid of BM and LE both but she was holding back something in the beginning.
Agree. I intended the Federal prosecution as a hypothetical and to suggest that it would have advantages in terms of overcoming legal obstacles as well as providing resources. I agree that SM would have to be found on Federal property, there would have to be local support, all of which is speculative at this point. I confess that I am so fed up with the current DA and her handling of this case, the Federal prosecution may be an escapist fantasy.BBM. I agree with everything you said except the involvement of the US Attorney. You keep saying this but there is zero proof she was killed on Federal property. It would be highly unusual for a US Attorney to draw charges in a case like this, IMO.
I don’t know for certain either but without actual details of each of those missing persons cases, i don’t see that this statement has any relevancy to the Suzanne Morphew disappearance. JMOI don’t know for certain, but I also suspect that these 341 missing persons don’t have much in common with Suzanne’s “disappearance”.
I don’t know for certain, but I also suspect that these 341 missing persons don’t have much in common with Suzanne’s “disappearance”.
...because he was under the false impression that DNA pointed to a plausible suspect. Take that away, and he would have eliminated both Gone Girl and SODDI defenses, leaving alternative 1: BM killed his wife and concealed her body. JMO.BBM. Even Judge Murphy knew there was not enough evidence to convict.
I am curious how they allegedly pinpointed a spot where they believe she is and so quickly it doesn’t seem it was disclosed to defense or perhaps it has been but they know it isn’t there?I do believe the DA will prosecute at some point just because Sheriff Spezee was so confident.
But because BM was a landscaper, I don’t know if her body will ever be found.
I posted an article a few pages back from the Denver Post about the snow melting fast in Colorado this year so maybe that is an answer to prayer if she can be found where LE believes she was buried.
There's no way of knowing what they know or whether it has been disclosed to the defense. The location may or may not have been required by Rule 16, CRCrP:I am curious how they allegedly pinpointed a spot where they believe she is and so quickly it doesn’t seem it was disclosed to defense or perhaps it has been but they know it isn’t there?
Yeah I get it. It's a very frustrating situation.Agree. I intended the Federal prosecution as a hypothetical and to suggest that it would have advantages in terms of overcoming legal obstacles as well as providing resources. I agree that SM would have to be found on Federal property, there would have to be local support, all of which is speculative at this point. I confess that I am so fed up with the current DA and her handling of this case, the Federal prosecution may be an escapist fantasy.