Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o Prejudice* #102

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  • #341
...because he was under the false impression that DNA pointed to a plausible suspect. Take that away, and he would have eliminated both Gone Girl and SODDI defenses, leaving alternative 1: BM killed his wife and concealed her body. JMO.
I can't remember if Judge Murphy knew about the DNA? Because the defense sure didn't then.
 
  • #342
Perhaps LE has known of the suspected area of Suzanne’s remains for some time. The area in question has likely been buried in snow since October 2021.
 
  • #343
Iirc, Suzanne said in a text that she would continue to do his invoicing. I don’t think she would have done that if there was something overtly illegal she could put her finger on. I wonder if Suzanne did his year end or if he had an accountant? I think his shady dealings were all done without her knowledge, although she suspected he was up to something for a long time, things he did not share with her. The Bare was king of HIS castle. His business was only HIS business.

I believe the prospect of all that coming to light during an investigation of the financials by a divorce attorney put the Bare in high gear. I think he suspected she was involved with someone named Jeff and that infuriated him too, but the exposure of his shady dealings AND the division of assets is what made him kill her. NOBODY was gonna take what HE worked for. He forgot Suzanne’s contribution to the household, raising two girls and caring for the home and family not to mention her sizeable inheritance. The Bare was an utter fraud by all accounts and he couldn’t risk that being exposed. JMHO
Yup, agree. 100% moo
 
  • #344
It's notable -- and sad -- that Barry seemed to know so little about his wife. How she spent her time, her interests -- not just with JL. Even before.

Didn't he say she stayed-at-home, doing nothing. Rude. Housewifing isn't nothing. Child-rearing isn't nothing. Excrpt that it was nothing, to him. Because it wasn't about him. He probably called Suzanne out on her sinful unlovingness three hours after having a baby.

Itsallaboutbarry. Itsalwaysallaboutbarry.

He wants what he wants when he wants it.

Hunter Barry, never misses a shot. Lover Barry, same. Every time. His whole life. 100%.

Self-adulate much?

Big truck, little man.

But let's think about it --

According to Barry, on a typical day, Suzanne wakes up, has coffee, checks her email, shops online, eats a lot of veggie stew. Then what? Goes to bed?

5/9 according to Barry, Barry brings Suzanne breakfast in bed. Yeah, sure he did. Then she sunbathed. Had veggie stew. Thought about making a side of potatoes to go with the one steak. Shared a steak and a plate with him before sharing a bed with him. The fireworks probably cracked the door jamb--

He's got Suzanne going to sleep around 8 and she doesn't stir at 5, as Barry is preparing to leave???? Where's the Mother's Day breakfast in bed? Cancer-survivor with two miracle babies, surely she's worthy.

It's just not credible. None of it.

Made all the worse by his text to his mother.

One has to wonder if, in his head, he was typing, "it is done."

That he set his children up to be the discoverers, I have no words.

JMO
That text...you read my mind. I've always thought it. MOO
 
  • #345
Omgee I am down in the Keys and I saw a BARE lookalike same tan lined face and blonde tips, he might have to get splashed just because
RUNNNN!!
 
  • #346
In a great summary (linked below) of what the courtroom heard during the multi-day preliminary hearing, I came across this nugget that I do not recall seeing before. I think it explains the alleged unknown DNA on SM's bike (per the defense).

They brought up the foreign DNA on the bike and the possibility that the most obvious thing had happened — that she had been grabbed from her bike ride by an unknown assailant.

The DA’s office reminded the courtroom that only a few days before she disappeared, the bike had been in the bike shop for new tires, where several workers would have handled it.

8/25/21 Morphew Pretrial Hearing Wraps Up, Awaiting Trial Decision - by Jan Wondra - Ark Valley Voice
 
  • #347
Lauren S was a guest on the YT Channel It's a Crime on Thursday, May 12.

The first point LS made was that Suzanne had a medical visit on Monday, May 11 that she missed bc she was missing.

RE: MG - LS said that MG told her that Barry's HIE room had the odor of chlorine that was so strong it burned her eyes.

They brought up the mechanical thing Barry forgot to mention to the Investigators in regards to his Bobcat.

They discussed the package that was delivered to the PP address that SD retrieved. LS has learned that the package contained a protein powder used for mixing his drinks before workouts. SD hiring the attorney that was a good friend with Judge Murphy forced Ramsey Lama to become the trial Judge when Murphy stepped aside. Surprise was expressed by Judge Lama retiring his position for the Eleventh Judicial District.

Barry's deleted sex-related web searches for "older man younger girl", "how to make a girl O*****", and (on JAN 24, 2020) well, we've read the AA so I'll stop there. LS had difficulty with her wifi which was too bad for she was experiencing time delays and losing her wifi service so she did not expound much, if at all, on these deleted items.

LS was told that she was the only reporter who captured the kiss(es) between Barry and his attorney, Iris.

LS said Colorado Springs is experiencing wildfires due to the lack of snow and rain. She agreed that snow was melting in high elevations near the PP residence.

LS reminded the audience that a celebration of Suzanne's life is planned for SAT, May 14 at Riverside Park @ 2:00pm.

#FindSuzanne
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  • #348
Hope this is ok to post. It's an excellent interview with Lauren!

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ETA: @DeDee we posted at the same exact time! ;)
 
  • #349
I meant to say before that if I were Barry, and Suzanne had just announced her intention to leave, then my first reaction should have been that she had.
 
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I meant to say before that if I were Barry, and Suzanne had just announced her intention to leave, then my first reaction should have been that she had.

Even the boyfriend knew there had been discussions of a separation (@7:35 in the video). Yet Barry‘s first inclination is a mountain lion. He doesn’t ask if hospitals have been checked. He doesn’t say he’s called any of Suzanne’s friends to see if they have heard from her, or may have come to take her for medical aid after the “bike accident.”

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  • #351

Exactly! Exactly!

He didn't play his role as written by the show runner at all.

This really struck me some months ago when I was listening to actress J Smith-Cameron talk about how she approached her role in Succession. You get given the script and your dialogue. But you have to get into the role of Gerri. How would she feel and react to the things that happen and things said to her?

Every time in these murder cases, you see the killer in show runner role, advancing the plot and delivering exposition.

You never seem them in actor mode, putting aside everything they know about the script, and just reacting like an ordinary human reacts to events that unfold. Because it's a very difficult skill.

Baz should have thought she was off with her lover, because he was away on business, and this is what she had said to him.

Such bad acting.
 
  • #352
I can't remember if Judge Murphy knew about the DNA? Because the defense sure didn't then.
The article I posted a few pages back demonstrates that Judge M knew about the glove box DNA but misunderstood it to be a match, not a partial match, for someone who committed sexual assaults. He said:

"...'I find the evidence and presence of unknown DNA in the glove box of her car, and that this person has committed other sexual assaults to be important.' He noted that the DNA found is linked to three other sexual assaults; two in Arizona and one in Chicago.

'This is particularly significant...'"

Suzanne Morphew Murder to Proceed to Trial, Barry Morphew Bail Set at $500,000

I must say that I am impressed by Jan Wondra's reporting which succinctly sets out all the details of the court events she covered.
 
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  • #353
There is no DNA from a suspect related to sexual assault in this case. Defense attorneys everywhere are hoping they have judges like Murphy and Llama. All they have to do is find unrelated, partial DNA. The partial DNA doesn't even need to be at a crime scene, located in multiple areas, or have a match to a suspect. Defense just says, "We have found a partial match( no such thing as partial match) to a sex offender in a different state"

Bam. Reasonable doubt. Bail. Case dismissed.

I don't think these judges provided a fair trial.
 
  • #354
The article I posted a few pages back demonstrates that Judge M knew about the glove box DNA but misunderstood it to be a match, not a partial match, for someone who committed sexual assaults. He said:

"...'I find the evidence and presence of unknown DNA in the glove box of her car, and that this person has committed other sexual assaults to be important.' He noted that the DNA found is linked to three other sexual assaults; two in Arizona and one in Chicago.

'This is particularly significant...'"

Suzanne Morphew Murder to Proceed to Trial, Barry Morphew Bail Set at $500,000

I must say that I am impressed by Jan Wondra's reporting which succinctly sets out all the details of the court events she covered.
I disagree that Judge Murphy believed the unknown DNA located on the glove box was a match, but that this is what the defense tried to confuse the Court and frustrate the prosecution with AFTER the fact, using Cahill's unrelated troubles to manipulate the data as presented during the prelim! The only party buying this was Judge Lama.

More specifically, this is what Judge Murphy stated:

He pointed out that “I find the evidence and presence of unknown DNA in the glove box of her car, and that this person has committed other sexual assaults to be important.” He noted that the DNA found is linked to three other sexual assaults; two in Arizona and one in Chicago.

“This is particularly significant – it’ doesn’t prove that he is innocent, or that someone else did it. Therefore: “proof is not evident, nor is the presumption great. Because I have found the prosecution has not met their burden, the court is obligated by the Colorado Constitution to set bail.”


And this is what Murphy heard during the PH, prior to his ruling:

Among the biggest surprises, the defense revealed what was described as partial DNA from three separate unknown males was found on the glove box of Suzanne’s Land Rover, and in a rear passenger seat. FBI Agent Joseph Cahill, which defense referred to as an adverse witness, testified that the FBI had run the DNA swabs through their national database and that it came back as a possible match with the profiles of three unsolved sexual predator attackers.”

Cahill said that the partial DNA strands weren’t enough to arrest someone (if they knew who they belonged to). But Forensic scientist Morgan Duge, who analyzed the samples, found that the samples from the glove box matched an unsolved sexual assault case in Tempe, Arizona. Then another case turned up in Arizona, a third in Illinois.

But, Cahill added, “Forensic Scientist Caitlin Rogers says
it’s a lead, not a match.” He went on to explain to the judge that this evidence was the subject of what law enforcement refers to as a keyboard search — where two scientists compare what they see to determine if they should try to develop the concept further. In this case, he said, “she told me it was limited genetic data.”

Nonetheless, I think we all agree that the prosecution failed to meet their burden here and BM was granted bail.


 
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  • #355
There is no DNA from a suspect related to sexual assault in this case. Defense attorneys everywhere are hoping they have judges like Murphy and Llama. All they have to do is find unrelated, partial DNA. The partial DNA doesn't even need to be at a crime scene, located in multiple areas, or have a match to a suspect. Defense just says, "We have found a partial match( no such thing as partial match) to a sex offender in a different state"

Bam. Reasonable doubt. Bail. Case dismissed.

I don't think these judges provided a fair trial.
RBBM
I thought Judge Murphy was pretty good, the more impartial of the two at least, imo.
The big surprise/disappointment for me as far as Judge Murphy goes, was when he declared at the conclusion of the PH’s that he thought the Prosecution’s $10 million bail request was too high and the Defense’s bail request of $50k was too low and was going to set bail in the middle and proceeded to set BM’s bail at $500k?!? IANAL, but I remember thinking wta*?! when learning of the imo low bail amount of $500k.
I gather math isn’t one of Judge M.’s strong suits because the midpoint between $10mil and $50k is NOT $500k! IMO, Judge M. should’ve added an additional “0” after the “5” - and bail should’ve been set at $5mil (midpoint), especially considering charges of M1 AND tampering with a deceased body.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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  • #356
I wish she would take a lie detector test and be completely truthful. I understand she is afraid of BM and LE both but she was holding back something in the beginning.
I think it's possible she has been with him to other work sites or even sites where he said he was checking it out for a future project and maybe it's a place he could have buried Suzanne or he could have made other disturbing comments before like he did about hiding a body. Maybe she knows of some of his misdeeds with other women or some of his shady business dealings. I think over time cases get solved when people who were once close to a suspect have a change of heart or the relationship changes in a way that they want to get things off their chest and then speak. Maybe MG was hoping they could convict Barry without some information she knows, but now that charges are dropped she could tell more and that goes for anyone else in this case. If they believed he would be put away and not that charges are dropped, they could begin to speak more or even someone new could speak up.
 
  • #357
RBBM
I thought Judge Murphy was pretty good, the more impartial of the two at least, imo.
The big surprise/disappointment for me as far as Judge Murphy goes, was when he declared at the conclusion of the PH’s that he thought the Prosecution’s $10 million bail request was too high and the Defense’s bail request of $50k was too low and was going to set bail in the middle and proceeded to set BM’s bail at $500k?!? I thought, wta*?!?!
I gather math isn’t one of Judge M’s strong suits because the midpoint between $10mil and $50k is NOT $500k! IMO, Judge M should’ve added an additional “0” after the “5” - and bail should’ve been set at $5 million (midpoint), especially considering charges of M1, and tampering with a deceased body.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
IMO, Colorado bail reform laws were at work here. However, I do believe the caveat here was $500K CASH ONLY. Generally speaking, I doubt that many individuals across the state could meet this bail condition -- let alone a resident of Chaffee County. Whereas most would have remained in jail under these bail conditions, I think BM was the exception.

In 2019, Salida, CO had a population of 5.79k people with a median age of 47.2 and a median household income of $46,875

 
  • #358
I disagree that Judge Murphy believed the unknown DNA located on the glove box was a match, but that this is what the defense tried to confuse the Court and frustrate the prosecution with AFTER the fact, using Cahill's unrelated troubles to manipulate the data as presented during the prelim! The only party buying this was Judge Lama.

More specifically, this is what Judge Murphy stated:

He pointed out that “I find the evidence and presence of unknown DNA in the glove box of her car, and that this person has committed other sexual assaults to be important.” He noted that the DNA found is linked to three other sexual assaults; two in Arizona and one in Chicago.

“This is particularly significant – it’ doesn’t prove that he is innocent, or that someone else did it. Therefore: “proof is not evident, nor is the presumption great. Because I have found the prosecution has not met their burden, the court is obligated by the Colorado Constitution to set bail.”


And this is what Murphy heard during the PH, prior to his ruling:

Among the biggest surprises, the defense revealed what was described as partial DNA from three separate unknown males was found on the glove box of Suzanne’s Land Rover, and in a rear passenger seat. FBI Agent Joseph Cahill, which defense referred to as an adverse witness, testified that the FBI had run the DNA swabs through their national database and that it came back as a possible match with the profiles of three unsolved sexual predator attackers.”

Cahill said that the partial DNA strands weren’t enough to arrest someone (if they knew who they belonged to). But Forensic scientist Morgan Duge, who analyzed the samples, found that the samples from the glove box matched an unsolved sexual assault case in Tempe, Arizona. Then another case turned up in Arizona, a third in Illinois.

But, Cahill added, “Forensic Scientist Caitlin Rogers says
it’s a lead, not a match.” He went on to explain to the judge that this evidence was the subject of what law enforcement refers to as a keyboard search — where two scientists compare what they see to determine if they should try to develop the concept further. In this case, he said, “she told me it was limited genetic data.”

Nonetheless, I think we all agree that the prosecution failed to meet their burden here and BM was granted bail.


Barry's own lawyers are smart enough to know that the DNA is insignificant in this case. I do believe they are counting on the judge and the average person to not understand DNA enough to get this and so they ran with it and continue to say it because people continue to believe it. A piece of evidence as big as DNA is not going to be fully explored by the defense and I bet they even had a DNA expert explain it all to them and I'm willing to bet that person told them it had no significance and yet here they are.

I know what the prosecution does is all discoverable by the defense, but what about the defenses actions? Who they speak to, what emails they send, what experts tell them, etc. Does that have to be shared? Wouldn't it be awesome if there was an email trail that showed a DNA expert telling the defense that it isn't a match. Yet here they are still spewing that garbage. I think their actions should be just as much under investigation as the prosecution. You can't just make these claims to sway judges and the public basically suggesting misconduct without proof.. and even worse is if they have information to suggest the DNA was not a match, but claimed that LE and the prosecution was not doing their job or lying about it.

A judge should also be required to vet all info independently and just copying the defenses argument in a ruling is not an unbiased look at it, especially when their arguments were wrong. How is that not questioned?
 
  • #359
I disagree that Judge Murphy believed the unknown DNA located on the glove box was a match, but that this is what the defense tried to confuse the Court and frustrate the prosecution with AFTER the fact, using Cahill's unrelated troubles to manipulate the data as presented during the prelim! The only party buying this was Judge Lama.

More specifically, this is what Judge Murphy stated:

He pointed out that “I find the evidence and presence of unknown DNA in the glove box of her car, and that this person has committed other sexual assaults to be important.” He noted that the DNA found is linked to three other sexual assaults; two in Arizona and one in Chicago.

“This is particularly significant – it’ doesn’t prove that he is innocent, or that someone else did it. Therefore: “proof is not evident, nor is the presumption great. Because I have found the prosecution has not met their burden, the court is obligated by the Colorado Constitution to set bail.”


And this is what Murphy heard during the PH, prior to his ruling:

Among the biggest surprises, the defense revealed what was described as partial DNA from three separate unknown males was found on the glove box of Suzanne’s Land Rover, and in a rear passenger seat. FBI Agent Joseph Cahill, which defense referred to as an adverse witness, testified that the FBI had run the DNA swabs through their national database and that it came back as a possible match with the profiles of three unsolved sexual predator attackers.”

Cahill said that the partial DNA strands weren’t enough to arrest someone (if they knew who they belonged to). But Forensic scientist Morgan Duge, who analyzed the samples, found that the samples from the glove box matched an unsolved sexual assault case in Tempe, Arizona. Then another case turned up in Arizona, a third in Illinois.

But, Cahill added, “Forensic Scientist Caitlin Rogers says
it’s a lead, not a match.” He went on to explain to the judge that this evidence was the subject of what law enforcement refers to as a keyboard search — where two scientists compare what they see to determine if they should try to develop the concept further. In this case, he said, “she told me it was limited genetic data.”

Nonetheless, I think we all agree that the prosecution failed to meet their burden here and BM was granted bail.


To me, it seems pretty clear from the words Judge M used in explaining his findings, that he misunderstood the significance of what he heard. He described a "match" not a partial match, and he said the match was with "a person who committed other sexual assaults." He seems to have picked up the defense argument without noting Cahill's testimony as well as the reporter did.
 
  • #360
To me, it seems pretty clear from the words Judge M used in explaining his findings, that he misunderstood the significance of what he heard. He described a "match" not a partial match, and he said the match was with "a person who committed other sexual assaults." He seems to have picked up the defense argument without noting Cahill's testimony as well as the reporter did.
If Murphy's (and the reporter's) words are taken out of context, I understand how OP might think that. However, I think the hearing on Nov 9 further confirms nobody here including Murphy and/or the defense believed the prelim evidence was a DNA "match" -- given how even IE refers to the evidence as a "partial match."

From reporter Ashley Franco's tweets:

Judge Murphy says he's a bit lost in what the argument is that defense attorneys are trying to get across here. Prosecutors say they're not sure why they're here for this hearing. Defense says they're trying to prove there was withholding of exculpatory evidence.
@KKTV11News

3:25 PM · Nov 9, 2021

Judge says the prosecution didn't really present much evidence during the preliminary hearing to show what the DNA match meant which he says helped him decide that there wasn't enough evidence to continue to keep #BarryMorphew without bond.
@KKTV11News

3:27 PM · Nov 9, 2021

Iris Eytan trying to explain why there are witnesses here to testify about meetings between prosecutors and CBI that defense attorneys were not made aware of. She says Agent Cahill with CBI lied about his knowledge of the DNA evidence in the case.
@KKTV11News
#BarryMorpehw

3:29 PM · Nov 9, 2021·

Eytan says information about an alternate suspect in the case was hidden from them. Prosecutors say this is going down a road leading to nowhere. He now says that maybe defense has it because there's so much evidence. Iris fires back with a hard "no" #BarryMorphew
@KKTV11News

3:32 PM · Nov 9, 2021


Judge says "I'd like to have something productive come out of this hearing." He says we will have to continue this hearing for some other time. He is asking Eytan to focus her questioning on a specific thing because court closes in 15.
@KKTV11News
#BarryMorphew #SuzanneMorphew

3:45 PM · Nov 9, 2021·

Eytan asks Cahill if he wants to change any of his testimony from the day of the prelim. He says no. She's questioning him on the DNA partial match to the unsolved case out of Tempe, Arizona.
@KKTV11News
#BarryMorphew #suzannemorphew

3:48 PM · Nov 9, 2021·

^^bbm for emphasis
 
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