Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o Prejudice* #103

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  • #81
CBI is really pretty sharp and for evidence of proof of life, this tells me they know when the photo was taken as well as when it was transmitted to JL. JMO
True, and we have not seen the location and movements of Suzanne's phone when BM arrives home.
 
  • #82
True, and we have not seen the location and movements of Suzanne's phone when BM arrives home.

This is one aspect I was most interested in at trial

There are different ways mobile location can be determined. e.g. GPS, Cellular and both combined.

As SM's phone was never recovered, I wonder if they have any GPS location data from her iCloud?
 
  • #83
True, and we have not seen the location and movements of Suzanne's phone when BM arrives home.
This is a good point, and if LE had this information it would have further bolstered their scenario of BM chasing SM. I haven't seen any information relating to the movements of SMs phone Saturday afternoon
 
  • #84
This is a good point, and if LE had this information it would have further bolstered their scenario of BM chasing SM. I haven't seen any information relating to the movements of SMs phone Saturday afternoon
I personally think the idea he was chasing her around that afternoon is the weakest part of their theory. The image was sent and has a timestamp so whether or not she was laying out that afternoon or whether that image was taken that day doesn't have a huge piece to play in my opinion....if she herself sent the image she was somewhere at that time and presumably alive. The difference is people have presumed the image was taken that day and that she was indeed laying out with some towel unfound. I, like Massguy, assume that LE knows that the image might be older and that is why they made no big deal out of the missing towel...the towel didn't matter once they figured out the picture was not taken that day.
 
  • #85
Massguy is saying the picture was taken at the time it was sent? ... or?
 
  • #86
I wouldn't think she would take anything identifying like ID or insurance card. And LE said there was just alittle cash in that purse. If I recall her Monday doctor appointment was routine post treatment so not necessarily essential like needing a chemo infusion. Barry says $70,000 is missing from the garage safe. Really the big point is that it would give prosecution a much stronger foundation if they could without question say she is deceased....e.g. find her. Without that her conversations about Ecuador and texts with JL about going silent while the divorce discussions were going on, her missing journal and phone and charger...there's enough that a good defense lawyer could argue that prosecution doesn't even know if she's deceased. But I don't think it's headed anytime soon near trial until they can better prove she is deceased IMO. Whether you believe either one story or another it's all going to come down to any future trial and tying up the lose ends of the original trial I think.
Respectfully disagree....two arduous bouts of cancer...countless visits to dr. with treatments. To not have her insurance card with her, along with her ID is senseless. She was anticipating financial freedom as well....not attainable without those documents.
 
  • #87
I personally think the idea he was chasing her around that afternoon is the weakest part of their theory. The image was sent and has a timestamp so whether or not she was laying out that afternoon or whether that image was taken that day doesn't have a huge piece to play in my opinion....if she herself sent the image she was somewhere at that time and presumably alive. The difference is people have presumed the image was taken that day and that she was indeed laying out with some towel unfound. I, like Massguy, assume that LE knows that the image might be older and that is why they made no big deal out of the missing towel...the towel didn't matter once they figured out the picture was not taken that day.
it wasn't a different towel that was missing...it was the towel SM was using when the picture was snapped. Easy enough for digital forensics to determined if and when that photo was snapped and or attached to the msg.
 
  • #88
Massguy is saying the picture was taken at the time it was sent? ... or?
I didn't read it that way so perhaps I read incorrectly. I do think LE knows because they would "want" to know if there was indeed a missing towel.
 
  • #89
I had understood the selfie was taken at the time, and have never heard it suggested otherwise.

Maybe @MassGuy can confirm what he meant
 
  • #90
I had understood the selfie was taken at the time, and have never heard it suggested otherwise.

Maybe @MassGuy can confirm what he meant
Yes that is the way I understood it. I have never seen anything otherwise on this forum. Hopefully @MassGuy will chime in since the OP was referring to him representing something different in her post. I believe LE referred to that picture sent to JL as the last proof of life photo.

Re the brown towel : IIRC I noticed when BM put the house on the market for sale that in the initial pictures there were brown hand towels in one of the bathrooms. I specifically remember them because they did not look like they belonged in a 1.7m house - threadbare and kind of ugly ( just my taste no judgements) - I think they were probably part of a set and Suzanne had the brown bath towel wrapped around her that day of the pic. So yes I tie the brown towel that was never found back to the house. ( On the final real estate listing I think different pics were used ?) JIMO
 
  • #91
Sure seems to me Suzanne was likely shot/tranq’d outside based on what her phone’s GPS showed according to the below article posted a day after the final bond hearing last September.
It’s a good article which also includes Judge M’s outlined/detailed statements explaining the law, probable cause, PEPG etc., including his reasoning and decision for issuing bond.

Snipped from link below and BBM:

Suzanne’s phone’s GPS on Saturday afternoon around the time that Barry Morphew returned home, showed her circling the home’s yard in a manner similar to the behavior of large wildlife that have been tranquilized, just after her last known phone contact.”



IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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  • #92
I wouldn't think she would take anything identifying like ID or insurance card. And LE said there was just alittle cash in that purse. Barry says $70,000 is missing from the garage safe. Really the big point is that it would give prosecution a much stronger foundation if they could without question say she is deceased....e.g. find her. Without that her conversations about Ecuador and texts with JL about going silent while the divorce discussions were going on, her missing journal and phone and charger...there's enough that a good defense lawyer could argue that prosecution doesn't even know if she's deceased.
I can’t think of any motivation Suzanne would have had for voluntarily dropping off the face of the earth.

JMO
 
  • #93
I can’t think of any motivation Suzanne would have had for voluntarily dropping off the face of the earth.

JMO
I don't even care about the "would she?" What's far more important to me is "could she?"

The answer is an unequivocally no. As I've said before, it would be like "Gone Girl," except many times more complicated.

It would be the kind of movie you walk out of in the first 5 minutes. It's equal parts impossible and insane.
 
  • #94
Massguy is saying the picture was taken at the time it was sent? ... or?
That seems to be the implication, as the defense never pushed back on that, and the brown towel would be irrelevant if it was not taken that day.

Barry confirms Suzanne was sunbathing that day too (pg 26)

Regarding Saturday, Barry stated, "We sat out in the sun. She was sunning and wanted me to sit out with her .. .I know we went to Fooses.
 
  • #95
Not that long ago we heard they were just waiting for some snow to melt in an area they thought they might find Suzanne's body. Just wondering, should that snow be melted by now? Or, did it melt, was there a search, and nothing found?
 
  • #96
Not that long ago we heard they were just waiting for some snow to melt in an area they thought they might find Suzanne's body. Just wondering, should that snow be melted by now? Or, did it melt, was there a search, and nothing found?

Respectfully, it's not only snowmelt but a matter of safely being able to access, excavate, and search the area. In typical weather, I wouldn't expect the ground dry here before the 4th of July. JMO

If one considers the mass destruction in Yellowstone National Park in only 36 hours when snowmelt and heavy rain caused the collapse of earth, roads, and bridges, I think the picture becomes clear.

This area received a significant amount of snow over the winter months before a search could be completed. To date, the area has 5 feet of snow concealing the location where the People believe Ms. Morphew is located. As a result, the People cannot safely excavate this area and resolve this unanswered question. [pg 7/11 Motion to Dismiss].


 
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DBM
 
  • #98
Respectfully, it's not only snowmelt but a matter of safely being able to access, excavate, and search the area. In typical weather, I wouldn't expect the ground dry here before the 4th of July. JMO

If one considers the mass destruction in Yellowstone National Park in only 36 hours when snowmelt and heavy rain caused the collapse of earth, roads, and bridges, I think the picture becomes clear.

This area received a significant amount of snow over the winter months before a search could be completed. To date, the area has 5 feet of snow concealing the location where the People believe Ms. Morphew is located. As a result, the People cannot safely excavate this area and resolve this unanswered question. [pg 7/11 Motion to Dismiss].


We all hope she is found this summer. It would be disappointing to find out is was a false tip or more false bravado by the DA.
 
  • #99
We all hope she is found this summer. It would be disappointing to find out is was a false tip or more false bravado by the DA.

Please define OP's meaning of:

"a false tip or more false bravado by the DA."

Given that including the reference to searching an area under 5 ft snowpack, made in good faith, was completely unnecessary for the court to grant the motion for dismissal without prejudice, this comment by OP makes no sense.

Unless the purpose is just to take a jab at the DA.

It's a fact that the DA has some well-defined issues of non-compliance on her record, that stand on their own, but I don't understand how making up factually irrelevant reasons, pursuant to dismissal, seemingly just to take jabs at the DA, will advance the case, or add anything positive to the discussion. JMO

ETA: I'm following a couple of cases where "false tips" are a matter of life and death.

The search for a lost hiker in Wyoming (still missing) was impacted when a woman gave a false tip to investigators that she talked to the hiker on the date he was reported missing -- providing that he was headed to a specific location to jump off his favorite rock into the water, and the conversation never happened.

More recently, a missing boy's mother was given a false tip that her son dined in a tavern located in a different state, and the witness waited more than a week to recant after phone records did not place him in the area.

Facts matter.

 
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Respectfully, it's not only snowmelt but a matter of safely being able to access, excavate, and search the area. In typical weather, I wouldn't expect the ground dry here before the 4th of July. JMO

If one considers the mass destruction in Yellowstone National Park in only 36 hours when snowmelt and heavy rain caused the collapse of earth, roads, and bridges, I think the picture becomes clear.

This area received a significant amount of snow over the winter months before a search could be completed. To date, the area has 5 feet of snow concealing the location where the People believe Ms. Morphew is located. As a result, the People cannot safely excavate this area and resolve this unanswered question. [pg 7/11 Motion to Dismiss].


I wonder if, for example, LS ( Lauren) would be able to approach Sheriff Spazee and ask for an update on the search. Obviously LS (Linda) can’t be directing anything until her law license is reinstated.
 
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