Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* *found in 2023* #110

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  • #721
Know that I am playing Devil’s Advocate here, I knew Barry did it since I saw that absurd Oh Suzanne video. But understand that Suzanne was no shrinking violet. She flew to different parts of the country to rendezvous with JL, who in my opinion is not a good guy. I think she was a woman that realized that there could be life after Barry, and wanted out. He wasn’t going to allow that to happen. But if we put Suzanne on a pedestal, certain types might sympathize and listen to Hurricane Iris spin a tale. I want Barry to be held responsible for what he did, and I think the facts will seal the deal. The other stuff mucks it up, in my opinion.
I tend to look at it more as to what behavior by whom is considered to be illegal. DV is illegal. Physical Assault is illegal. Murder is illegal. Flying to different parts of the country to cheat on your husband is legal.
 
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  • #722
I tend to look at more as to what behavior by whom is considered to be illegal. DV is illegal. Physical Assault is illegal. Murder is illegal. Flying to different parts of the country to cheat on your husband is legal.
Absolutely. Suzanne cheated on her horrible husband. She knew he had the kids in his back pocket, she had no income, she believed in her marriage vows and I think tried every possible way to make it work. I think she also may have had guilt because Barry was with her every step of the way when she first got cancer, as a very young woman. He married her, knowing they would not have children-I think children were very important to him, yet Suzanne was more important. Then they had two babies-for religious people, this might feel like a God given gift. I think Suzanne tried really hard to stay with Barry. When she decided to go, he was not going to let her. She had grown to know who Barry really was, and wanted out.
 
  • #723
I tend to look at more as to what behavior by whom is considered to be illegal. DV is illegal. Physical Assault is illegal. Murder is illegal. Flying to different parts of the country to cheat on your husband is legal.
I agree, legal, but if you have a narcissistic husband like Barry, not advisable. Don’t misunderstand, I have great sympathy for what Suzanne lived through and how it must have felt to be loved, respected and supported by JL during her second bout with cancer, but I have always believed that it is better to get out first and then begin your new life. I’m not even sure it would have made a difference in this case. I still think it was about the money first for BM and secondarily about appearances. We all understand how dangerous it can be when leaving a narcissist, even without an affair. JMO
 
  • #724
Wasn't he addicted to his trail cams?

Looking to see what the Mice do when Cat's away?
Could he put a trail cam in his vehicle and take his own photo? I mean all a trail cam needs is an open wifi signal right? There must be many ways to take your own photo remotely.
 
  • #725
Could he put a trail cam in his vehicle and take his own photo? I mean all a trail cam needs is an open wifi signal right? There must be many ways to take your own photo remotely.
Put your own phone on the dash with a timer, have a friend along to take it.
 
  • #726
I've previously posted how IMO, IE made her first in-person appearance at Chaffee County District Court (via a new Motion) to specifically allege on-the-record, discovery violations by the State, and she continued this theme throughout the case, during at every appearance! Although I also recalled from E & N's first hearing, they went as far as to suggest to the Court for BM's charges to be reduced to 2nd-degree murder as a sanction, but I now see IE also tried to manipulate the court calendar for sanctions by incorrectly citing Rule 16 in its own defense Motion [D-10]! o_O

In support, I offer the following:

On May 6, 2021, BM was represented at his Advisement hearing by a public defender. Pursuant to Chapter 38, Rule 3 of the Supreme Court Rules, the Court granted expanded media coverage for this Advisement hearing. On this date, the AA remained sealed under Order of the Court and was only released to the defendant's defense counsel. The Court also set a virtual status hearing for May 27, 2021.

On May 17, 2021, the public defender withdrew and notice of substitute counsel was filed-- naming E & N as BM's new defense counsel.

On May 25, 2021, in response to prior defense counsel's defense Motion [D-7] alleging DA Stanley filed a 129-page AA, authored by Investigator Alex Walker, the Prosecution responded [P-15] that the statement was mostly true, however, the PCA was filed by Investigator Walker.

On May 18, 2021, the defendant's new defense counsel, E & N, Motioned the previously scheduled May 27, 2021, virtual status hearing be moved to an In-Person- Hearing, and the Court granted the Motion on May 19, 2021.

Defense Counsel used the In-Person hearing on May 27, to allege discovery violations by the Prosecution after incorrectly citing Rule 16 calls for discovery not later than 20 days following the first appearance (instead of 21 days, as the Court corrected defense counsel). At this time, the Defense further proclaimed LS and the Prosecutor already had the discovery evidence for a year when LS had only been sworn into office in mid-January 2021!

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And from Defense Discovery Demand [D-10] filed May 17, 2021:

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And knowing what later happened with the Prosecution losing its defense experts for Trial as a sanction, I find E & N citing Statute for Exhibits (not later than 45 days before trial) as early as May 17, 2021 (i.e., expert witness report), extremely rich! MOO

 
  • #727
As we await some fresh information to emerge after the recovery of Suzanne’s remains, I would like to get some group speculation on whether the finding of her remains actually occurred while LE was “searching” for Edna Quintana.

I'd say it’s certainly possible that a drone/aerial search may have detected the area as a possible disposal site, or that someone stumbled on some remains and alerted LE, who assumed they were related to Ms. Quintana, at least during the initial dispatch. However, I wonder if it might be some “fake news”.

LE is known to give false information in press releases if circumstances warrant. As such, one wonders if there could be some tactical reason for misrepresenting the origins of the discovery. The reason I think this is not entirely implausible is the location in relation to the Quintana disappearance.

Ms. Quintana was reported missing from a hike on a hill near County Road 46-AA, just outside of Saguache, Colorado. (The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs))

Reasonably enough, they found the body of James Montoya “in the foothill west of Saguache Peak off County Road 46AA” while searching for Ms. Quintana. (CBI trying to identify human remains found in Saguache County)

In the Montoya case, they stumbled on his remains while looking in the general area where Ms. Quintana disappeared. In contrast, they stumbled (if that is the correct term) on the remains of Suzanne Morphew 18 miles away from where Edna Quintana was last seen and where she lived.

Certainly, there could be other reasons LE might have looked for Ms. Quintana in that God forsaken bit of scrubland south of Moffat, but one can at least hope that they were led to the area based on suspicions related to Suzanne. (Suspicions that, at least to this point, have not been shared with the general public).
 
  • #728
I agree, legal, but if you have a narcissistic husband like Barry, not advisable. Don’t misunderstand, I have great sympathy for what Suzanne lived through and how it must have felt to be loved, respected and supported by JL during her second bout with cancer, but I have always believed that it is better to get out first and then begin your new life. I’m not even sure it would have made a difference in this case. I still think it was about the money first for BM and secondarily about appearances. We all understand how dangerous it can be when leaving a narcissist, even without an affair. JMO
When I read about some situations now again, my thought sometimes is: Suzanne was playing with her life. Didn't she guess, how very dangerous he could get from one second to another? Jekill and Hyde - she said it herself.
 
  • #729
Yes, that hike he wanted to go on the day before always made me wonder too but you're right.. he doesn't seem like a hiker.
MG should also have been surprised, when BM talked about hiking to make the wife happy. Probably she was!
 
  • #730
As we await some fresh information to emerge after the recovery of Suzanne’s remains, I would like to get some group speculation on whether the finding of her remains actually occurred while LE was “searching” for Edna Quintana.

I'd say it’s certainly possible that a drone/aerial search may have detected the area as a possible disposal site, or that someone stumbled on some remains and alerted LE, who assumed they were related to Ms. Quintana, at least during the initial dispatch. However, I wonder if it might be some “fake news”.

LE is known to give false information in press releases if circumstances warrant. As such, one wonders if there could be some tactical reason for misrepresenting the origins of the discovery. The reason I think this is not entirely implausible is the location in relation to the Quintana disappearance.

Ms. Quintana was reported missing from a hike on a hill near County Road 46-AA, just outside of Saguache, Colorado. (The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs))

Reasonably enough, they found the body of James Montoya “in the foothill west of Saguache Peak off County Road 46AA” while searching for Ms. Quintana. (CBI trying to identify human remains found in Saguache County)

In the Montoya case, they stumbled on his remains while looking in the general area where Ms. Quintana disappeared. In contrast, they stumbled (if that is the correct term) on the remains of Suzanne Morphew 18 miles away from where Edna Quintana was last seen and where she lived.

Certainly, there could be other reasons LE might have looked for Ms. Quintana in that God forsaken bit of scrubland south of Moffat, but one can at least hope that they were led to the area based on suspicions related to Suzanne. (Suspicions that, at least to this point, have not been shared with the general public).
I understand, when the Moffat area came into discussion (somebody put together some known connections, maybe), but how did they found the right place within this area? That's a miracel to me.
 
  • #731

SEE THE LINK ABOVE FOR THE FEDERAL DOCKET FOR BM'S CIVIL SUIT UPDATED ON 10/16/23:

The following defendants timely filed Motions to Dismiss (not to exceed 6500 words as granted by the Court) on/before 10/13/23:

*Linda Stanley
*CBI Employees
*Mark Hurlbert
*Alex Walker & Jeff Lindsey
*Joseph Cahill-- (Motion to Dismiss for Failure to State a Claim).

The following defendants filed Motions to extend the time to Answer or Otherwise Respond to BM's Complaint:

Chaffee County et. al., filed an unopposed Motion to extend the time to file an Answer to BM's Complaint. (The plaintiff did not oppose the Motion because they are considering dismissing certain Chaffee County defendants).

FBI Agents also filed a Motion to extend the time to Answer or Otherwise Respond to BM's Complaint but the plaintiff's attorney failed to respond to the defendant's inquiry whether or not they opposed the Motion.
 
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  • #732
As we await some fresh information to emerge after the recovery of Suzanne’s remains, I would like to get some group speculation on whether the finding of her remains actually occurred while LE was “searching” for Edna Quintana.

I'd say it’s certainly possible that a drone/aerial search may have detected the area as a possible disposal site, or that someone stumbled on some remains and alerted LE, who assumed they were related to Ms. Quintana, at least during the initial dispatch. However, I wonder if it might be some “fake news”.

LE is known to give false information in press releases if circumstances warrant. As such, one wonders if there could be some tactical reason for misrepresenting the origins of the discovery. The reason I think this is not entirely implausible is the location in relation to the Quintana disappearance.

Ms. Quintana was reported missing from a hike on a hill near County Road 46-AA, just outside of Saguache, Colorado. (The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs))

Reasonably enough, they found the body of James Montoya “in the foothill west of Saguache Peak off County Road 46AA” while searching for Ms. Quintana. (CBI trying to identify human remains found in Saguache County)

In the Montoya case, they stumbled on his remains while looking in the general area where Ms. Quintana disappeared. In contrast, they stumbled (if that is the correct term) on the remains of Suzanne Morphew 18 miles away from where Edna Quintana was last seen and where she lived.

Certainly, there could be other reasons LE might have looked for Ms. Quintana in that God forsaken bit of scrubland south of Moffat, but one can at least hope that they were led to the area based on suspicions related to Suzanne. (Suspicions that, at least to this point, have not been shared with the general public).
IMO, LE have an unnamed suspect in EQ’s disappearance and no doubt have done their due diligence. Perhaps some cell data or whatever lead them to this area. I don’t think they expected to find SM there, but it was time for SM to be found. High time.

BM, killed his wife, lied through his teeth over and over again, all the while passing himself off as nothing short of a pious saint. Ugh! He proceeds in short order to get power of attorney over his “missing” wife and sells off everything including the kitchen sink. Then, when they arrest him, he uses SM’s money to get himself a hotshot, high priced, wonder woman lawyer that starts spinning lies to the public, obfuscating the truth, and then has the audacity to sue the people doing their job for 15 million claiming BM’s civil rights were violated. Oh please!!! He murdered his wife and IE knows it! One cannot read the AA and come to any other conclusion! Yet, she still tries to ruin THEIR reputations, public servants doing their job to find justice for poor SM. Team IE and BM are nauseating. It appears money and fame motivates her. Justice is her casualty. Yes, it was time for Suzanne to be found.

Call it serendipity or divine intervention, the time had come to take BM down a few notches and along with him his blathering defense attorney, who just loves to hear herself speak. We got a little added icing when we heard she dropped a couple of defendants from the civil suit. It would appear things are beginning to unravel for them, and it’s about time! IMO
 
  • #733
There is a theory, that May 9th, 2020, the wheater wasn't suitable from the degrees to take bikini-photos by Suzanne. BM exchanged messages with JL in Suzanne's name and sent an old bikini photo to him. Suzanne was already gone. Suzanne's phone sent many messages, which was very unusual compared to the time before, and JL answered only some of them.
What do you think of it?
 
  • #734
There is a theory, that May 9th, 2020, the wheater wasn't suitable from the degrees to take bikini-photos by Suzanne. BM exchanged messages with JL in Suzanne's name and sent an old bikini photo to him. Suzanne was already gone. Suzanne's phone sent many messages, which was very unusual compared to the time before, and JL answered only some of them.
What do you think of it?

I've followed many cases where the perp or others close to the offender impersonated the victim but never where an imposter allegedly communicated with the victim's lover, at a rate of 4 times the typical messages-- and this did not raise any ALARM BELLS!

Nope, I'm not a fan of this YT speculation that ignores the AA, and disrespects the FBI analysts who IMO, are very good -- if not the best, with cellular forensics! JMO

ETA: I attended Univ in the state of Colorado and had many winter sunburns! Scientific data shows that skin temperature is more affected by solar radiation than by ambient air temperature.
 
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  • #735
There is a theory, that May 9th, 2020, the wheater wasn't suitable from the degrees to take bikini-photos by Suzanne. BM exchanged messages with JL in Suzanne's name and sent an old bikini photo to him. Suzanne was already gone. Suzanne's phone sent many messages, which was very unusual compared to the time before, and JL answered only some of them.
What do you think of it?

This speculation is a hard no for me, along with recent speculation (by some members) that there’s no way SM had pizza with BM and texted a photo to their girls. Then saying maybe it was SD impersonating SM that night or at anytime. That’s absurd to me. imo
 
  • #736
dbm, didn't make sense
 
  • #737
I understand, when the Moffat area came into discussion (somebody put together some known connections, maybe), but how did they found the right place within this area? That's a miracel to me.
MOO someone saw the bones and reported it to the sheriff.
 
  • #738
Just thinking of the grave site evidence, would a strong earth magnet be able to attract any metal shavings from a shovel or bucket used and matched to you know who"s tools and old bucket???? Metal is unique in its % of certain added compounds such as chrome or carbon or nickle and a dna type match may be possible. It would have to be sifted imo.
 
  • #739
Just thinking of the grave site evidence, would a strong earth magnet be able to attract any metal shavings from a shovel or bucket used and matched to you know who"s tools and old bucket???? Metal is unique in its % of certain added compounds such as chrome or carbon or nickle and a dna type match may be possible. It would have to be sifted imo.
I was listening to a podcast with Joseph Scott Morgan and he talked about the tool marks on the earth still being able to be seen if a shovel and pick axe were used in a rocky area. The strike marks would be there and they could tell what type of tools were used to dig the hole. I'd say it's possible then they could pick up some other types of evidence then if it was still there.

Has anyone seen mention of those tools Barry carried into the hotel and left for his workers? I'm assuming they brought them back when they returned to Salida, but do we know or have we seen any mention of LE having those tools?
 
  • #740
I was listening to a podcast with Joseph Scott Morgan and he talked about the tool marks on the earth still being able to be seen if a shovel and pick axe were used in a rocky area. The strike marks would be there and they could tell what type of tools were used to dig the hole. I'd say it's possible then they could pick up some other types of evidence then if it was still there.

Has anyone seen mention of those tools Barry carried into the hotel and left for his workers? I'm assuming they brought them back when they returned to Salida, but do we know or have we seen any mention of LE having those tools?
I hope the items (tools) and bucket would be in evidence still not knowing any rules about returning all evidence in a case such as this. The site should be secured imo until this investigation is completed but just my humble opinion.
 
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