The first thing that comes to mind for me when I hear that Barry didn't want to be in any debt (yet he borrowed $100k from his FIL and other money from friends to pay for his PP home) is that he must not have considered personal loans repayable debt. I wonder if his friends were ever repaid. If they were, was it before or after Suzanne's disappearance?She mentioned that about Barry not wanting to be in any debt, when they built their first house in IN. He might have truly been like that then, but that was what, 20+ years ago? Sadly, a lot can change in 2o years.
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IIRC Someone posted in earlier thread (I apologize profusely, racking my brain trying to remember who) BM may have been in a bind for cash and needed to get paid immediately for the job he was demanding to start early. Sub- contractors can usually draw a check as soon as work is completed. Maybe a real estate tax due. Seems that was the jest of the earlier post. I don’t think BM could handle pressure, even pressure he created for himself. Just MOOYes, he described Barry as becoming immediately angry when he couldn't start his part of a job when he wanted to, even though he apparently was not scheduled to work for another three days.
I guess he expected JS and his crew to just pack up all their tools and leave, and when they wouldn't, he lost his temper and the two got into a physical fight. JS said there was a look of evil in his eyes.
We have only heard one side of the story, but considering all accounts of his being controlling, it sounds like Barry. Instead of using his words to solve a problem, he used his fists.
Apparently they were both charged with assault, but BM had his record expunged. Imo
bbmI think a lot of work that Barry did was as a sub, and who knows if he had the proper insurance for any of these jobs. I think that it probably took a very long time to go through the business and personal dealings to get any kind of accurate picture of finances, not to mention what was and was not illegal. I think we will be hearing a lot of this during the trial.
I never figured out how they paid cash for the PP home, but haven’t been able to look at details of their finances. The home in IN had not sold prior to purchase of PP so Zero cash from the sale at closing on PP home. AM indicated $500k of SMs inheritance from mom went towards purchase. Then $100k loan from GM and $100k from a friend. But that still leaves roughly $800k cash needed to purchase PP with zero mortgage. All new furniture, kid in college, cancer treatments & living expenses, fairly new Range Rover vehicle and starting over in a new small business in a new area. None of that really adds up to smart thinking, my 2cents! Not the kind of “risk” most entrepreneurs would take. ImhoVery true. Nonetheless, public records seemed to support there was no mortgage for the PP residence or the subsequent purchase of Longhorn Estates building lot either. According to Andy - SM used cash from her inheritance after the IN residence did not sell before they closed on the Colorado home.
IMO, I think the only person that was not "repaid" was SM, and her wanting to be reimbursed her inheritance monies was probably a motive for her death -- as would be a division of assets in a divorce.The first thing that comes to mind for me when I hear that Barry didn't want to be in any debt (yet he borrowed $100k from his FIL and other money from friends to pay for his PP home) is that he must not have considered personal loans repayable debt. I wonder if his friends were ever repaid. If they were, was it before or after Suzanne's disappearance?
JMO.
I never figured out how they paid cash for the PP home, but haven’t been able to look at details of their finances. The home in IN had not sold prior to purchase of PP so Zero cash from the sale at closing on PP home. AM indicated $500k of SMs inheritance from mom went towards purchase. Then $100k loan from GM and $100k from a friend. But that still leaves roughly $800k cash needed to purchase PP with zero mortgage. All new furniture, kid in college, cancer treatments & living expenses, fairly new Range Rover vehicle and starting over in a new small business in a new area. None of that really adds up to smart thinking, my 2cents! Not the kind of “risk” most entrepreneurs would take. Imho
In the states, permits, etc. on public works jobs are typically held in the name of the prime contractor or first-tier subcontractor. BM was not working under the table or off the books --the unidentified spokesperson for subcontractor E.A. Outdoor Services, LLC (Tony Miller is President) already confirmed they hired BM for the task identified in their contract (i.e., the retaining wall). BM returned on Mother's Day to correct his deficient work first completed in 2019.
BREAKING: Missing Suzanne Morphew husband Barry Morphew’s ‘alibi’ questioned as new details surface about landscaping job Mother’s Day weekend [VIDEO]
That's what we learned here from a VI.Did they not also had a million dollars from BM selling his business in Indiana?
Did they not also had a million dollars from BM selling his business in Indiana?
It appears BM told people he did not like debt yet he had no problem borrowing $100k from GM and then not even agree to provide a promissory note telling Gene to get it from Suzanne, she’s the one who borrowed it. What a terrible thing to do to an elderly man. What utter disrespect toward an elder. Barry didn’t read enough of his Bible.I'd not seen the Inside Edition video before - thanks @Error505 for posting. Noting the YT video is dated May 7, 2021 which was only 2 days after BM's May 5 arrest.
Perhaps authorities influenced the change in message -- I guess we'll have to wait until the preliminary hearing to learn more.
In comparison to Melinda's more recent message -- I'd say that she's done a complete about-face including her earlier claims cited in MSM that the family was living beyond their means. The more recent message was that BM did not like debt including mortgages. MOO
Listening to this and MOO but I do wonder if the daughters lived in fear of their dad also. That can be very powerful and hard to overcome living under the same roof.BBM for focus
SM was afraid of Barry, per Melinda. She says it outloud, no hesitation when asked!
Melinda Moorman “My sister had sent me a text Friday morning before Mother’s Day. It was very lengthy, very powerful, very revealing. She was ready to reveal some things she had been keeping close to her vest.” “Suzanne was scared of Barry”.
Short 2 minute video from Inside Addition.
According to a post by a VI here on WS. I’ve not found anything in legal filings that supports the sale. MOODid they not also had a million dollars from BM selling his business in Indiana?
I agree and wonder if the daughters have even realized it yet. I imagine when you love and trust someone is takes time to see it happening to yourself if it's ever realized.Listening to this and MOO but I do wonder if the daughters lived in fear of their dad also. That can be very powerful and hard to overcome living under the same roof.
BM sounds like an abusive controlling sob. moo
BM sold his landscaping “business” in IN also. I suspect we’ll learn that he defrauded the buyer by lying about the state of said business. He just cannot NOT lie. JMHOI never figured out how they paid cash for the PP home, but haven’t been able to look at details of their finances. The home in IN had not sold prior to purchase of PP so Zero cash from the sale at closing on PP home. AM indicated $500k of SMs inheritance from mom went towards purchase. Then $100k loan from GM and $100k from a friend. But that still leaves roughly $800k cash needed to purchase PP with zero mortgage. All new furniture, kid in college, cancer treatments & living expenses, fairly new Range Rover vehicle and starting over in a new small business in a new area. None of that really adds up to smart thinking, my 2cents! Not the kind of “risk” most entrepreneurs would take. Imho
bbmListening to this and MOO but I do wonder if the daughters lived in fear of their dad also. That can be very powerful and hard to overcome living under the same roof.
BM sounds like an abusive controlling sob. moo
There was a rift created by the request of a promissory note, so the siblings weren’t in a great spot when the Morphews moved to CO. It sounded to me that they kept up with each other, but there was tension in the relationships. David emailed Suzanne to try to explain why a record was needed for the loan, they thought maybe she didn’t understand. It wasn’t as if the family was asking for the money, in Melinda’s telling of the story. They just wanted something on record, given their father’s advanced age and assets. I think Barry may have turned it into something else to drive a wedge. He took exception to them asking for the note, and I’m sure he had a lot to say about it to Suzanne. Melinda’s use of the word transparency-I might be way too deep about it but I wanted to know more about what that meant in her back and forth with Suzanne.
I believe Barry’s sentence was diversion. I don’t believe anyone has dug up any record of expungement. But clearly Mr. Schmitz is still angry.Yes, he described Barry as becoming immediately angry when he couldn't start his part of a job when he wanted to, even though he apparently was not scheduled to work for another three days.
I guess he expected JS and his crew to just pack up all their tools and leave, and when they wouldn't, he lost his temper and the two got into a physical fight. JS said there was a look of evil in his eyes.
We have only heard one side of the story, but considering all accounts of his being controlling, it sounds like Barry. Instead of using his words to solve a problem, he used his fists.
Apparently they were both charged with assault, but BM had his record expunged. Imo
Not really a 'small loan', either.There was a rift created by the request of a promissory note, so the siblings weren’t in a great spot when the Morphews moved to CO. It sounded to me that they kept up with each other, but there was tension in the relationships. David emailed Suzanne to try to explain why a record was needed for the loan, they thought maybe she didn’t understand. It wasn’t as if the family was asking for the money, in Melinda’s telling of the story. They just wanted something on record, given their father’s advanced age and assets. I think Barry may have turned it into something else to drive a wedge. He took exception to them asking for the note, and I’m sure he had a lot to say about it to Suzanne. Melinda’s use of the word transparency-I might be way too deep about it but I wanted to know more about what that meant in her back and forth with Suzanne.
Mr. Schmitz said he was motivated by learning of the disappearance of SM to disclose what had happened between him and BM. I've listened to a couple of the interviews with him and didn't detect continuing anger on JS's part, just awareness that BM can become quite angry and bullying. When JS confronted BM about bullying his workers, JS described that it was like BM's face had changed and he was looking into the face of pure evil. And then, that face would switch from that to one of someone hurt and crying quite quickly.I believe Barry’s sentence was diversion. I don’t believe anyone has dug up any record of expungement. But clearly Mr. Schmitz is still angry.