Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #60 *ARREST*

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  • #881
Some interesting ideas about the whole Broomfield job.
 
  • #882
She mentioned that about Barry not wanting to be in any debt, when they built their first house in IN. He might have truly been like that then, but that was what, 20+ years ago? Sadly, a lot can change in 2o years.

jmo
The first thing that comes to mind for me when I hear that Barry didn't want to be in any debt (yet he borrowed $100k from his FIL and other money from friends to pay for his PP home) is that he must not have considered personal loans repayable debt. I wonder if his friends were ever repaid. If they were, was it before or after Suzanne's disappearance?

JMO.
 
  • #883
Yes, he described Barry as becoming immediately angry when he couldn't start his part of a job when he wanted to, even though he apparently was not scheduled to work for another three days.

I guess he expected JS and his crew to just pack up all their tools and leave, and when they wouldn't, he lost his temper and the two got into a physical fight. JS said there was a look of evil in his eyes.

We have only heard one side of the story, but considering all accounts of his being controlling, it sounds like Barry. Instead of using his words to solve a problem, he used his fists.

Apparently they were both charged with assault, but BM had his record expunged. Imo
IIRC Someone posted in earlier thread (I apologize profusely, racking my brain trying to remember who) BM may have been in a bind for cash and needed to get paid immediately for the job he was demanding to start early. Sub- contractors can usually draw a check as soon as work is completed. Maybe a real estate tax due. Seems that was the jest of the earlier post. I don’t think BM could handle pressure, even pressure he created for himself. Just MOO
 
  • #884
I think a lot of work that Barry did was as a sub, and who knows if he had the proper insurance for any of these jobs. I think that it probably took a very long time to go through the business and personal dealings to get any kind of accurate picture of finances, not to mention what was and was not illegal. I think we will be hearing a lot of this during the trial.
bbm
Agreed.
All of his secrets being unearthed ; ironic given his occupation !

I wish he'd fess up, take a plea deal, and let Suzanne's family have the final respect of burying her.
Doubt that's going to happen, but one can hope.
Imo.
 
  • #885
Very true. Nonetheless, public records seemed to support there was no mortgage for the PP residence or the subsequent purchase of Longhorn Estates building lot either. According to Andy - SM used cash from her inheritance after the IN residence did not sell before they closed on the Colorado home.
I never figured out how they paid cash for the PP home, but haven’t been able to look at details of their finances. The home in IN had not sold prior to purchase of PP so Zero cash from the sale at closing on PP home. AM indicated $500k of SMs inheritance from mom went towards purchase. Then $100k loan from GM and $100k from a friend. But that still leaves roughly $800k cash needed to purchase PP with zero mortgage. All new furniture, kid in college, cancer treatments & living expenses, fairly new Range Rover vehicle and starting over in a new small business in a new area. None of that really adds up to smart thinking, my 2cents! Not the kind of “risk” most entrepreneurs would take. Imho
 
  • #886
The first thing that comes to mind for me when I hear that Barry didn't want to be in any debt (yet he borrowed $100k from his FIL and other money from friends to pay for his PP home) is that he must not have considered personal loans repayable debt. I wonder if his friends were ever repaid. If they were, was it before or after Suzanne's disappearance?

JMO.
IMO, I think the only person that was not "repaid" was SM, and her wanting to be reimbursed her inheritance monies was probably a motive for her death -- as would be a division of assets in a divorce.

If BM/SM had a history of not repaying GM or their friends, it doesn't follow that they'd be willing to be repeat lenders.

I expect his lender friend will support BM as a stand-up guy.

Nope -- any financial greed and motive for murder was strictly between the couple. MOO
 
  • #887
I never figured out how they paid cash for the PP home, but haven’t been able to look at details of their finances. The home in IN had not sold prior to purchase of PP so Zero cash from the sale at closing on PP home. AM indicated $500k of SMs inheritance from mom went towards purchase. Then $100k loan from GM and $100k from a friend. But that still leaves roughly $800k cash needed to purchase PP with zero mortgage. All new furniture, kid in college, cancer treatments & living expenses, fairly new Range Rover vehicle and starting over in a new small business in a new area. None of that really adds up to smart thinking, my 2cents! Not the kind of “risk” most entrepreneurs would take. Imho


Did they not also have a million dollars from BM selling his business in Indiana?
 
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  • #888
In the states, permits, etc. on public works jobs are typically held in the name of the prime contractor or first-tier subcontractor. BM was not working under the table or off the books --the unidentified spokesperson for subcontractor E.A. Outdoor Services, LLC (Tony Miller is President) already confirmed they hired BM for the task identified in their contract (i.e., the retaining wall). BM returned on Mother's Day to correct his deficient work first completed in 2019.

BREAKING: Missing Suzanne Morphew husband Barry Morphew’s ‘alibi’ questioned as new details surface about landscaping job Mother’s Day weekend [VIDEO]

Keeping in mind, this is a man who filed for a PPP loan for 9 employees that he doesn't have, filed an election ballot for his missing/dead wife, and who is now facing a slew of charges in her death. Skirting the law when it comes to public works jobs or any other job, is probably not much of a reach, where Barry Morphew is concerned.

It seems to me, if Barry was hired by EA Outdoor Services, his name ought to be on paper, somewhere. Surely there has to be a record somewhere of BM's company working on that site? Yet, LS couldn't seem to locate it. If it were Joe down the street, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and assume the paperwork was available somewhere. But Joe down the street isn't sitting in a cage for the premeditated murder of his wife. So, there's that. It's certainly possible the whole thing was on the up and up, but I'm not giving BM the benefit of the doubt.

jmo
 
  • #889
Did they not also had a million dollars from BM selling his business in Indiana?
That's what we learned here from a VI.
 
  • #890
Did they not also had a million dollars from BM selling his business in Indiana?

Yes, according to our one and only VI here @NatureLover BM sold his IN landscaping business for 1 million+.
 
  • #891
I'd not seen the Inside Edition video before - thanks @Error505 for posting. Noting the YT video is dated May 7, 2021 which was only 2 days after BM's May 5 arrest.

Perhaps authorities influenced the change in message -- I guess we'll have to wait until the preliminary hearing to learn more.

In comparison to Melinda's more recent message -- I'd say that she's done a complete about-face including her earlier claims cited in MSM that the family was living beyond their means. The more recent message was that BM did not like debt including mortgages. MOO
It appears BM told people he did not like debt yet he had no problem borrowing $100k from GM and then not even agree to provide a promissory note telling Gene to get it from Suzanne, she’s the one who borrowed it. What a terrible thing to do to an elderly man. What utter disrespect toward an elder. Barry didn’t read enough of his Bible.

My problem is believing anything that comes out of Barry’s braggart mouth because his actions tell the tale. He still maintains his innocence in the face of 5 charges against him. According to Barry, Suzanne was the “love of my life,” and there’s never been “anyone else.” Just another lie. We’re likely to discover there were many others. Barry is a chameleon and the AA will expose him for who he truly is, a complete fraud.

Personally, I believe they were living WAY beyond their means. Suzanne’s inheritance and the $100k borrowed from Gene is what kept the lie afloat just a little bit longer. Barry is a serial liar and Suzanne had finally had enough. May there be justice for Suzanne.
 
  • #892
BBM for focus
SM was afraid of Barry, per Melinda. She says it outloud, no hesitation when asked!

Melinda Moorman “My sister had sent me a text Friday morning before Mother’s Day. It was very lengthy, very powerful, very revealing. She was ready to reveal some things she had been keeping close to her vest.” “Suzanne was scared of Barry”.

Short 2 minute video from Inside Addition.
Listening to this and MOO but I do wonder if the daughters lived in fear of their dad also. That can be very powerful and hard to overcome living under the same roof.
BM sounds like an abusive controlling sob. moo
 
  • #893
Did they not also had a million dollars from BM selling his business in Indiana?
According to a post by a VI here on WS. I’ve not found anything in legal filings that supports the sale. MOO
 
  • #894
Listening to this and MOO but I do wonder if the daughters lived in fear of their dad also. That can be very powerful and hard to overcome living under the same roof.
BM sounds like an abusive controlling sob. moo
I agree and wonder if the daughters have even realized it yet. I imagine when you love and trust someone is takes time to see it happening to yourself if it's ever realized.
 
  • #895
I never figured out how they paid cash for the PP home, but haven’t been able to look at details of their finances. The home in IN had not sold prior to purchase of PP so Zero cash from the sale at closing on PP home. AM indicated $500k of SMs inheritance from mom went towards purchase. Then $100k loan from GM and $100k from a friend. But that still leaves roughly $800k cash needed to purchase PP with zero mortgage. All new furniture, kid in college, cancer treatments & living expenses, fairly new Range Rover vehicle and starting over in a new small business in a new area. None of that really adds up to smart thinking, my 2cents! Not the kind of “risk” most entrepreneurs would take. Imho
BM sold his landscaping “business” in IN also. I suspect we’ll learn that he defrauded the buyer by lying about the state of said business. He just cannot NOT lie. JMHO
 
  • #896
Listening to this and MOO but I do wonder if the daughters lived in fear of their dad also. That can be very powerful and hard to overcome living under the same roof.
BM sounds like an abusive controlling sob. moo
bbm
Ita.
Someone had to say it.
 
  • #897
There was a rift created by the request of a promissory note, so the siblings weren’t in a great spot when the Morphews moved to CO. It sounded to me that they kept up with each other, but there was tension in the relationships. David emailed Suzanne to try to explain why a record was needed for the loan, they thought maybe she didn’t understand. It wasn’t as if the family was asking for the money, in Melinda’s telling of the story. They just wanted something on record, given their father’s advanced age and assets. I think Barry may have turned it into something else to drive a wedge. He took exception to them asking for the note, and I’m sure he had a lot to say about it to Suzanne. Melinda’s use of the word transparency-I might be way too deep about it but I wanted to know more about what that meant in her back and forth with Suzanne.

I wonder if this is what Andy was referring to in the PE video in the early going when he said things were going to "get ugly".
 
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  • #898
Yes, he described Barry as becoming immediately angry when he couldn't start his part of a job when he wanted to, even though he apparently was not scheduled to work for another three days.

I guess he expected JS and his crew to just pack up all their tools and leave, and when they wouldn't, he lost his temper and the two got into a physical fight. JS said there was a look of evil in his eyes.

We have only heard one side of the story, but considering all accounts of his being controlling, it sounds like Barry. Instead of using his words to solve a problem, he used his fists.

Apparently they were both charged with assault, but BM had his record expunged. Imo
I believe Barry’s sentence was diversion. I don’t believe anyone has dug up any record of expungement. But clearly Mr. Schmitz is still angry.
 
  • #899
There was a rift created by the request of a promissory note, so the siblings weren’t in a great spot when the Morphews moved to CO. It sounded to me that they kept up with each other, but there was tension in the relationships. David emailed Suzanne to try to explain why a record was needed for the loan, they thought maybe she didn’t understand. It wasn’t as if the family was asking for the money, in Melinda’s telling of the story. They just wanted something on record, given their father’s advanced age and assets. I think Barry may have turned it into something else to drive a wedge. He took exception to them asking for the note, and I’m sure he had a lot to say about it to Suzanne. Melinda’s use of the word transparency-I might be way too deep about it but I wanted to know more about what that meant in her back and forth with Suzanne.
Not really a 'small loan', either.
I realize everyone's finances are different and views may vary.
 
  • #900
I believe Barry’s sentence was diversion. I don’t believe anyone has dug up any record of expungement. But clearly Mr. Schmitz is still angry.
Mr. Schmitz said he was motivated by learning of the disappearance of SM to disclose what had happened between him and BM. I've listened to a couple of the interviews with him and didn't detect continuing anger on JS's part, just awareness that BM can become quite angry and bullying. When JS confronted BM about bullying his workers, JS described that it was like BM's face had changed and he was looking into the face of pure evil. And then, that face would switch from that to one of someone hurt and crying quite quickly.
 
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