Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #68 *ARREST*

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  • #241
SM & Jeff ?
I read this:
The two had gone to high school in Indiana and hooked up during the summer of 1989 at a house party. Barry was not at the party. Twenty years later, they hooked up again, Harris said.
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...rs-confirm-suzanne-was-having-a-2-year-affair
@Tiff23fr Thanks for quote & link. Not directing this at you, just jumping off the quote.
If ^ 1989 is accurate, was their relationship renewal in 2018, 20 years later as article specifies, or closer to 29 years later? N
ot a math wizard;), but I know WS has a handful here.

From article phrasing ("hooked-up" and "the party" singular), I wonder if SM & Jeff spent one innocent evening together holding hands or had a full-blast all-summer-long romance. I wonder which version of that memory spurred SM & Jeff to hit the refresh button. But their expectations about their future relationship don't really factor into the criminal case against BM.
{ ETA: But if he became aware of the relationship, BM's thoughts about it are relevant, perhaps as motive.}

When did SM & BM marry?
 
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  • #242
Ok. So I think when JL deleted his LinkedIn (I think he said the 12th), it may have deleted the messages on Suzanne’s end too. So maybe when they got a warrant for that, it was less than helpful.

No one is better than the FBI at this tech stuff, so I’m sure the explanation isn’t incompetence or anything.
Wasn't leaning at incompetence. <modsnip> End of day, it won't matter, BM will get what's coming to him.
 
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  • #243
Wasn’t that around the time MG said he showed up outside her house and called her?

When he was rumbling down the road sounding like he "just had the worst night of his life"
-- you mean that one. ;)
 
  • #244
We didn’t really learn anything new about BM today; we already knew he was violent, dangerous and manipulating.

I wonder about SM though; did her friends learn anything about her? I did.

What a marriage mess. BM is controlling and abusive and SM is purposely being difficult hoping he’ll get fed up and leave? Sounds wonderful.
BM is controlling and abusive and SM is purposely being difficult hoping he'll get fed up and leave?

Those BBM words weren't said by anyone. She said she hoped he would take up with someone and just leave her [paraphrasing, but much closer to the truth of what she said].
 
  • #245
SM & Jeff ?
@Tiff23fr Thanks for quote & link. Not directing this at you, just jumping off the quote.
If ^ 1989 is accurate, was their relationship renewal in 2018, 20 years later as article specifies, or closer to 29 years later? N
ot a math wizard;), but I know WS has a handful here.

From article phrasing ("hooked-up" and "the party" singular), I wonder if SM & Jeff spent one innocent evening together holding hands or had a full-blast all-summer-long romance. I wonder which version of that memory spurred SM & Jeff to hit the refresh button. But their expectations about their future relationship don't really factor into the criminal case against BM.

When did SM & BM marry?
They married 8/5/94. She graduated high school in 1989. Wonder if the 89 hookup with JL was at a senior party. BM graduated in 86.
 
  • #246
They married 8/5/94. She graduated high school in 1989. Wonder if the 89 hookup with JL was at a senior party. BM graduated in 86.
@OldCop :):DThanks for straightening out the timeline for me. So many dates and years in my head are swirling around.:eek: Following too many cases, maybe time for me to cut back.
 
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So, BM dismissed MG around 11:00 on Sat the 9th, so he could go home and "make the wife happy", hiking or biking...

Did he maybe plan an 'acccident' while they were out, but then he came home to find Suzanne texting with JL, and he strangled her in the ensuing rage?

There've been a few times that I had flashes of Crystal Mcdowell's case in this,
and now I'm having another.

JM own confused O

(old link) MG interview
Alleged 'other woman' in Morphew case denies rumors of affair but says missing mom's husband acted 'weird'
 
  • #248
I'm not as shocked that SM was having an affair as I am that BM wasn't. MOO.
 
  • #249
BM is controlling and abusive and SM is purposely being difficult hoping he'll get fed up and leave?

Those BBM words weren't said by anyone. She said she hoped he would take up with someone and just leave her [paraphrasing, but much closer to the truth of what she said].
Lol, I wouldn’t even fault her one bit if it was OP’s characterization. I always assumed their marriage wasn’t what was portrayed in photographs, but I had no idea it was anything like this.

I don’t know how she got out of bed in the morning.

I imagine an affair brought her great feelings of shame, but it gave her hope for the future; a better life.

This man dominated every aspect of her life. She was trapped, both by Barry, and by other (internal) forces. She tried pleading with him, and she tried applying pressure. She was trying to get out using every means at her disposal.

I believe it was her very efforts to get out that led to her death on Saturday afternoon.

I couldn’t care less which means she tried.
 
  • #250
I'm not as shocked that SM was having an affair as I am that BM wasn't. MOO.
Well....not that that particular witness knew or could testify about. I'm not convinced due to BM's apparent sense of entitlement. We really have no way of knowing at this time. The AA is still sealed and we haven't had the trial. JMO
 
  • #251
Lauren’s Live

EBM

new stream, first one froze up.


In the recap, LS references the following tweet and seems confused about BM's reference to finding her "Fred."

IMO, I think BM is referring to SM finding a "professional, wealthy, husband." We learned during an interview with SM's step-brother on PE that "Fred" was also the town physician that married SM's mother and built her a house on the golf course where SM grew up. After her mother's death, SM inherited $500K which we learned was used towards the purchase of PP.

Lauren Scharf@LaurenScharfTV

Harris said that Barry would tell Suzanne, "Don't worry, one day you'll find your FRED." The agent explained that FRED is her step-father. Suzanne's mom's second husband.

1:38 PM · Aug 9, 2021
 
  • #252
And if this goes to trial, we’ll find out if all 12 jurors agree with you.
What we've learned thus far is just the teeny tip of the iceberg. By the time the prosecution and all of their witnesses and all of the incriminating data get through with Barry, I'm confident all 12 jurors will have much more important aspects of this case to worry about and JL will be a distant memory.
And yes, we shall see.
IMO
 
  • #253
I want to see if anything was found in that dig at the jobsite and what he did there. Today it was said his bobcat was not involved.
 
  • #254
They married 8/5/94. She graduated high school in 1989. Wonder if the 89 hookup with JL was at a senior party. BM graduated in 86.

Maybe I am old, but I can't remember my own hookups, much less my friends' ones.

SM's one must have been something really passionate, to stay in memory.

However...do you think BM's school friends hadn't told him? School is full of kind "friends". I think he never liked Jack. I think had he known about the affair with Jack, he'd be beyond furious.

I think JL had a good reason not to step out. He was afraid of BM. Mortally. If he thought that BM killed SM, even more than mortally.
 
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I want to see if anything was found in that dig at the jobsite and what he did there. Today it was said his bobcat was not involved.
I’m confident the answer is no, but I’m more interested in what exactly brought law enforcement there.

We heard about his truck door opening about 3am, but I guess it’s possible there were earlier times that weren’t mentioned.

Something relatively strong likely put him at that location I think, although it’s also possible they didn’t have his data yet, and they were going off human intelligence.

ETA: This doesn’t jibe with the coverup dates and times through, which really hurts that argument.
 
  • #256
Maybe I am old, but I can't remember my own hookups, much less my friends' ones.

SM's one must have been something really passionate, to stay in memory.

However...do you think BM's school friends hadn't told him? School is full of kind "friends". I think he never liked Jack. I think had he known about the affair with Jack, he'd be beyond furious.

I think JL had a good reason not to step out. He was afraid of BM. Mortally. If he thought that BM killed SM, even more than mortally.
I think he is a coward, who wanted to save his own neck. Six months of non stop headlines about Suzanne, pleas from le to step forward? Speaks volumes of his character, IMO.
 
  • #257
I think he is a coward, who wanted to save his own neck. Six months of non stop headlines about Suzanne, pleas from le to step forward? Speaks volumes of his character, IMO.
THIS^^^ - It's going to be a very awkward holiday season at Jeff's (JL's) house. Dad is an adulterer and a coward. He was flattered by SM's contact and interest. IMO she just happened to have good timing - he was open for it. But as he said, he didn't want to leave his kids or his marriage. Early ties can be very meaningful but mid-life romance can be oh, so complicated. JMHO
 
  • #258
I'm not passing judgement of Suzanne for an affair. I think she had been in a loveless marriage with violence and control for a very long time. It doesn't make her less of a person, nor does it diminish the culpability of BM.

Suzanne is the VICTIM here, not her actions.

Oof. Agreed! She was in an abusive relationship with BM. And apparently he was alienating her children from her. She probably greatly feared what would happen if she tried to leave. Clearly with reason. But in the meantime, she found someone she felt treated her well and loved her.

I don’t blame her. And I don’t judge her for that. SHE didn’t murder anyone. She just tried to find a ray of sunshine in the miserable trap she was in.
 
  • #259
Yes, when was the spy pen discovered, and all files heard?

Maybe they mean the affair wasn't confirmed until Nov 2020?

Perhaps it's a good thing we have two weeks to sift through all this, until the next two-day prelim!

Just listened to LS's recap of today's hearing and learned that the spy pen was unknown to LE until SO advised them she gave SM a spy pen during a trip to Florida. The spy pen was then discovered by LE inside a closet-- sometime in June.

It seems to me that once LE found the spy pen, they still did not know who the male voice belonged to since SM told nobody about JL, and LE finally identified him in November. MOO
 
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Maybe I am old, but I can't remember my own hookups, much less my friends' ones.

SM's one must have been something really passionate, to stay in memory.

However...do you think BM's school friends hadn't told him? School is full of kind "friends". I think he never liked Jack. I think had he known about the affair with Jack, he'd be beyond furious.

I think JL had a good reason not to step out. He was afraid of BM. Mortally. If he thought that BM killed SM, even more than mortally.

I think BM knew or strongly suspected she was having an affair, that’s why he told her she “wasn’t going anywhere” when she was asked to go to go to Florida(?), but he didn’t know who, and that was why he was messing with her Facebook account on his own phone.

I feel bad for JL’s family, more lives ruined in front of the whole world.
 
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