Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #15

[Fireflize]

JMO
All the different changes in the "Give Me Some Money" website has me suspicious just from the fact it has been changed so often.

I dont usually pay much attention to those sites during cases other than to just know they exist but it sure sounds like this particular one has had a lot of changes in who is part of the site and who will ultimately be getting funds from it. That alone has my eyebrows raised.

I mean wouldnt they normally be setup right from the start for a single defined purpose and have a single beneficiary in mind for the funds. If so, then why is this particular one needing all these changes. It seems unusual to me.

It may be nothing but then again at least for now I am putting that in the "Hmmmmm" category along with some other "Hmmmmm's" about this case.

Yes. I speculate that it was originally set up to help search for SW in good faith. I speculate that the person who initiated the fund, for reasons unknown, has stepped away from the organization effort. It's a "Hmmmmm alright."Moo

 

[gitana1]

We didn't learn about the Frazee fire until trial. We certainly didn't know about the latched case or the tooth fragment until trial.

LE searched for an entire day at BM's jobsite before media caught wind of it. Had they not, LE may have searched there unnoticed for the entire span of days. We wouldn't know whether they did or didn't find anything because we wouldn't have known they were there at all. I put HUGE stock in their carefully worded statement, that they found nothing connected to Suzanne/the case AT THIS TIME.

IMO additional testing may prove my point.

Of the top of my connected head, I can only think of a handful of searches LE has conducted thus far. Thst leaves another handful of which we are utterly unaware. Likely they occurred away from the collective media eye....

We know the jobsite was searched. We know the family home has been searched. We can assume the area around the real or imaginary bike was searched. The reservoir/river was searched. Monarch Pass was closed, presumably for a roadside search, probably closer to home than farther from.

We sleuthers are in that weird space between LE overt/covert action and the eventual release of arrest affidavits/arrest warrants. I am confident we will be blown away when we learn at some future date what LE is doing, has done and has been doing, to date.

I predict: the AA will be replete with evidence of murder, evidence linking a POI to the crime, a layered timeline of events, made clear by cellphone usage, vehicle GPS, residential and industrial video footage.

I expect: we'll all be horrified and heartbroken.

JMO

Nice post.

 

[Moonchime]

ITA about people not coming forward with statements.
It occurs to me that this case is also affected by the current social distancing going on. If large public gatherings were allowed, IMO we would be seeing one or more candlelight vigils, etc. The MSM would definitely cover them and would find family members/friends willing to express a few feelings on SM and perhaps both SM and BM.
JMO

Thank you for this thoughtful post. That's one of the weirdest things about the timing of SM's disappearance. Not only did it occur that she was alone on Mother's Day, but the entire mystery occurred during a worldwide Pandemic. We were all on stay at home orders. It makes SM's disappearance all the more perplexing. MOO

 

[Poedelini]

The find Suzanne Morphew page was made on the 14th of May. Why so late? Why 4 day's late? Only operational for 3 day's.

 

[GordianKnot]

The 'Give Me Some Money' page is getting more updates then the find Suzanne Morphew page on facebook. Just does not feel right. Imo

This is beyond grotesque.

It's terribly, terribly wrong.

The Find SM page hasn't been updated since what, May 17th???

If anyone was ever in doubt about what this case is all about, just look at how quickly that Gimme $$$ page was set up. I want to know exactly how much of his own precious money BM contributed toward this private "search."

I made the mistake of checking out that Gimme page.

I'm now about to vent a spleen.
It makes me positively sick to my stomach to see good-hearted, well-intentioned people being taken advantage of this way.
How many more innocent victims is this perp going to claim?

Because, yes, I do consider the Gimme Your Money contributors victims, as well.

So. Much. Manipulation.

JMO.

 

[TxGidget]

As far as I know there were two women missing from Wichita, this woman recently identified as Shalan Niccole Gannon, 27 years old and a visually challenged woman, aged 23 called Savanah Schneider.

So is this woman identified as the body with the gun case?

Yes. The gun box body found in the Ninnescah River is SNG. I believe SS is still missing. RIP, SNG...

 

[Cassady]

I understand exactly what you are saying. It’s perplexing that their friends and family have NOTHING to say. Under the circumstances, I understand folks not expressing negative comments (especially considering that SM is likely deceased), but it would seem acceptable for people to have SOME complimentary things to say about Suzanne and BM. It’s weird that there are no friends that seem to have a kind word to offer. IMO

IMO there are various reasons friends or relatives of missing people do not speak out.

Perhaps the missing person had a limited circle of friends and family who are available to speak out?

Maybe LE told them not to speak to media and the family and friends do not want to do anything to mess up the investigation.

Many people simply do not like speaking in public for any reason and get extremely nervous if they have to.

In today's world many are afraid that whatever they say to the media will be picked apart by the throngs of internet commentators and they will be chastised, accused, ripped apart and basically victimized even more than they already are because someone close to them is missing.

Also, there are no handbooks or idiot's guide that tell people how to react when someone you love goes missing.

IMO it is extremely harsh to criticize how family members react in these situations.

 

[Moonchime]

I posted this yesterday but IMO it's worth a repost and your point is well taken - they had so much we did not know about fairly early on and CBI is involved here as well:
I thought I would do a search on tips for other CO cases - still looking btw - but ran across this article - and it really helps me to look at this investigation with "fresh eyes" - it's quite fascinating IMO how things were unfolding and being interpreted by LE in the early days of Kelseys case. very interesting and I think we can speculate what's being done for Suzanne at this point.
JMO
'We never wanted to let her down': Meet the investigators who helped solve Kelsey Berreth's murder

What a powerful read. It gives us hope that the CBI is searching diligently for SM. They're not going to give up until they have found out what's happened to SM and the person responsible for her disappearance. MOO

 

[Moonchime]

The find Suzanne Morphew page was made on the 14th of May. Why so late? Why 4 day's late? Only operational for 3 day's.

Nothing about this case makes any sense.

 

[Seattle1]

Thank you.

Stating the obvious: That ain't a good look.

This whole case is just hidesous.

JMO.

It's a small world.

Construction contracting is a smaller world. Follow the money

New construction season. Breaking ground. Time is money.

Construction delay. Contractor delay. Time is money.

Call a friend. Call a foe. Time is money.

Meet the boss. Get'er done. Time is money.

Bigger fish. Move along. Following money.

Wife is gone. Time is money.

Promise money. Ask for money. Follow the money.

Call in favors. Not my money. Any money.

Silence is golden. Follow the money.

Keep your word. Break your word. Follow the money.

 

[al66pine]

I feel like BM tested the waters by adding his name to the *** and it failed. He had 30 days to pick a permanent beneficiary and as that date was approaching quickly his next best choice was MM...

@Tate123 sbm I'm azz-uming the ^ subject is the 'funding' page but not sure I follow this. Are you saying: Nephew (or BM?) had 30 days to select permanent beneficiary? A 30 day deadline per funding site guidelines or other guidelines? In skimming the funding site, I drilled down in terms of services,etc. and do not recall any language about changing beneficiaries, but could have missed it. Thx in adv.

 

[?mysterian?]

It's a small world.

Construction contracting is a smaller world. Follow the money

New construction season. Breaking ground. Time is money.

Construction delay. Contractor delay. Time is money.

Call a friend. Call a foe. Time is money.

Meet the boss. Get'er done. Time is money.

Bigger fish. Move along. Following money.

Wife is gone. Time is money.

Promise money. Ask for money. Follow the money.

Call in favors. Not my money. Any money.

Silence is golden. Follow the money.

Keep your word. Break your word. Follow the money.

Exactly.

Who benefits?

 

[Poedelini]

The Get me money page was made on the 13th and find Suzanne Morphew on the 14th. Indeed @Moonchime it does not make sense. Imo

 

[Angleterre]

I don’t know if the following post will help my fellow Websleuths members with regards to how a major investigation is run . I have tentatively mentioned this in a previous post but I have had quite a few questions privately in response so I decided to tidy up and expand my previous post ...
Here goes ....

With any major enquiry wether that be a murder / Homicide or a missing person , a dedicated team of detectives is set up with a SIO ( senior investigative officer) as the lead .
Certainly in the UK, a policy book is commenced and everything that you know , everything that subsequently happens, every decision taken and every action followed up, is written into the policy book . Every decision made by the SIO and the justification behind such a decision, has to be written into the policy book .
I was responsible for leading a number of murder investigations and Missing persons investigations and I would lead teams of detectives and forensic experts etc
A twice daily briefing would be held where everyone has an input as to what has happened that day , any evidence found , any witnesses spoken to etc and a summary of the day’s investigation would be written up by the SIO.
Each investigation has a strategy and that strategy is followed from the Murder and Major Crime investigations Manual .
So at the start of the investigation, there will be various strategies drawn up to encompass all of the different strands of the Investigation.
They are :
1.Victim - what do we know ?
2. Suspect - Do we have any?
3. Circumstances of last seen
4. Intelligence - What do we know ? What can we find out?
5. Cell phone analysis
6. Forensics - what do we have ? How are they to be prioritised? Submissions to laboratory and cost?
DNA evidence
Fingerprints
7. Search parameters and recovery of evidence to include continuity of retrieval
8. CCtv - What’s available ? How do we prioritise it?
9. Cell Phones - Victims, Suspect’s, Family etc
10. Family History
11. Actions - those raised that need investigation and those that are considered but not deemed to take the investigation further ( but it still all needs recording )
12. Forensic mapping
13. Witnesses
14. Interviews - suspect/s?
15. Exhibits/Property Officer - to record everything brought into the enquiry and the continuity of that evidence
16. File of evidence - Who will create the file of evidence for submission to CPS/DA
17. Warrants - allocated officer to swear all warrants
18. Disclosure - Officer allocated to start a disclosure record ( court process )
19. Family liaison officer - Officer allocate to be the go between for the family and SIO
20. Media strategy - controlled release of information to press
I could go on but I think that you get the drift that any investigation of this type is massive and takes time and has to be that way to get it right so that by the time it gets to the Court process, there’s no room for doubt or for weaknesses in the investigation to allow the accused to get off on a technicality or procedural issue .
Then if there is a suspect you need to start thinking of who will do the suspect interview and the downstream monitoring and alibi checks .
And on top of all that, the biggest and most onerous task besides cell phone evidence retrieval, is CCTV ! And that is a biggie ... it takes Detectives hours upon hours to go through and watch CCTV to enable them to ascertain if there is anything of evidential value on each individual recording and that can be CCTV from the street , from a shop, car park, toll booth , buildings, churches , Public CCTV along a route and individual CCTV in peoples driveways or on their mobile phones etc
You start to get the idea of just how much work is involved in a major investigation and that’s before you go to a judge to swear out warrants and arrest the perpetrator. Once an arrest takes place, you then have interviews and downstream monitoring in real time of the interviews and then liaison with the CPS in UK and DA/attorney general I think maybe in the USA? And then putting the whole file of evidence together and ensuring full disclosure to the defence ... it’s massive workloads and it goes on and on ...
Cell phone data is also massive because of pings of location and subsequent searches and data dumps of all cell phones active within a specific MAST area and tracing who those numbers belong to and ascertain what they were doing in the area. And I can tell you that the evidence from one cell phone alone can run into thousands of pages for my detectives to read through and decipher what, If anything, is relevant to the case . So can you imagine when you have numerous people involved in an investigation, wether it to be rule them in or out or as an alibi or a victim, just how onerous this task is? And it is just one small part of the investigation.

Also the CCTV , people ask why now , 1 month later ? Well you don’t know what evidence that LE already have and if they had nothing else then the individual private residence CCTV would have been done immediately but it is a massive task and takes officers hours and hours to sit and watch every piece of CCTV that comes into the enquiry so it’s now easier to say , keep hold of your own individual residential CCTV and if you think that you have something of importance then let us know immediately otherwise we will get round to looking at it when we can because EVERYTHING has to be prioritised.

In the UK we have HOLMES ( home office Major enquires system ) and everything is entered into the system and looked at by three officers working with admin staff and any actions deemed necessary as a result of those 3 officers painstakingly going through every piece of information, item, cell phone number, cctv , search recovery evidence etc and allocating actions ( work ) to officers to compete before they are given another action . And some officers are individually given specific roles for example CCTV, Cell phones, Intelligence, Statement takers , Family liaison .

So this gives you an idea of just what is going on behind the scenes .
And the information released has to be protected and provenanced to ensure accuracy and the SIO doesn’t want information released unless absolutely necessary because the perpetrator may slip up and say something that hasn’t yet been released to the public and that then becomes dynamite to the investigation.
I hope this helps you all to understand the process , procedures and time for any major investigation to bear fruit .

Regarding technology- People do not realise just how much electronic tracking there is in our everyday lives and the footprint that we leave . Let’s take for example the obvious ones like public CCTV and residential / business CCTV and street CCTV , shop and bank and fuel CCTV, road surveillance CCTV to monitor traffic flow and speed camera CCTV etc The list is endless! Then there are tracking devices on the car if there is one , then there is the cell phone and text message/social media footprints alongside Pings
But - there are some footprints that we either don’t think about or are not aware of for example I own a luxury ( ish ) brand of car and I don’t have a key , I have a black plastic fob that I carry around which activates the car but without inserting it anywhere within my car console. Now when my car has a problem and I go to the dealership, this fob is inserted into their computer and it tell you every journey I have made and the status of the car throughout that journey, if the fuels low , if the seatbelt warning is activated, if any warning lights come on , if tyre pressure is low etc
I was gobsmacked just how much information that could be obtained and to be quite honest, I am a law abiding citizen but it scared even me , just how much we are being monitored. Then there is ANPR both mobile and static and lets not forget that it’s not only your cell phone that can be pinged and calls traced but LE can go to any mast and triangulate all mobile cell phones that ping off a particular mast at a given time and they can cross reference the data from this to any of the contacts in your phone and see if there are any patterns . So just from this you can start to see how many avenues are open for LE to look at. And then we have instagram and Facebook and WhatsApp and snapchat and Twitter and email and fit bits and apple watches and you start to get my drift .....
Edited to add: We have family Life 360 so that we can see where our children are and vice versa and my DH decided to turn his location permissions off
BUT although it does not now tell me his location in words, it does show him driving down the various roads and highways when he’s out and about. So another form of surveillance and if somebody was going to commit a heinous crime, they cannot possibly erase all their electronic footprints

Then we have Amazon Alexa and Smart devices ...
The list is endless!


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[?mysterian?]

What a powerful read. It gives us hope that the CBI is searching diligently for SM. They're not going to give up until they have found out what's happened to SM and the person responsible for her disappearance. MOO

Yes. It reinforces that LE knows far more than they divulge to the public and that silence does not mean inaction on their part. IMO.

 

[Cassady]

JMO
I agree that I dont think they found anything related to the case. I think they would have stayed longer if they had.

LE also left the search area every night at 5-530ish. If LE was hot on a body trial they would be there all night. If they were looking for trace evidence I could see LE "clocking" out each day...but not if they were onto any evidence of a body...IMO

 

[Tate123]

@Tate123 sbm I'm azz-uming the ^ subject is the 'funding' page but not sure I follow this. Are you saying: Nephew (or BM?) had 30 days to select permanent beneficiary? A 30 day deadline per funding site guidelines or other guidelines? In skimming the funding site, I drilled down in terms of services,etc. and do not recall any language about changing beneficiaries, but could have missed it. Thx iin adv.

You have 30 days to withdraw funds. The page will be placed on hold after 30 days ( not accepting any donations) until you withdraw. In order to withdraw you need 1 designated beneficiary and once funds are withdrawn that beneficiary cannot be changed.
edit> Lets just say that is how I read the "rules"

 

[?mysterian?]

I don’t know if the following post will help my fellow Websleuths members with regards to how a major investigation is run . I have tentatively mentioned this in a previous post but I have had quite a few questions privately in response so I decided to tidy up and expand my previous post ...
Here goes ....

With any major enquiry wether that be a murder / Homicide or a missing person , a dedicated team of detectives is set up with a SIO ( senior investigative officer) as the lead .
Certainly in the UK, a policy book is commenced and everything that you know , everything that subsequently happens, every decision taken and every action followed up, is written into the policy book . Every decision made by the SIO and the justification behind such a decision, has to be written into the policy book .
I was responsible for leading a number of murder investigations and Missing persons investigations and I would lead teams of detectives and forensic experts etc
A twice daily briefing would be held where everyone has an input as to what has happened that day , any evidence found , any witnesses spoken to etc and a summary of the day’s investigation would be written up by the SIO.
Each investigation has a strategy and that strategy is followed from the Murder and Major Crime investigations Manual .
So at the start of the investigation, there will be various strategies drawn up to encompass all of the different strands of the Investigation.
They are :
1.Victim - what do we know ?
2. Suspect - Do we have any?
3. Circumstances of last seen
4. Intelligence - What do we know ? What can we find out?
5. Cell phone analysis
6. Forensics - what do we have ? How are they to be prioritised? Submissions to laboratory and cost?
DNA evidence
Fingerprints
7. Search parameters and recovery of evidence to include continuity of retrieval
8. CCtv - What’s available ? How do we prioritise it?
9. Cell Phones - Victims, Suspect’s, Family etc
10. Family History
11. Actions - those raised that need investigation and those that are considered but not deemed to take the investigation further ( but it still all needs recording )
12. Forensic mapping
13. Witnesses
14. Interviews - suspect/s?
15. Exhibits/Property Officer - to record everything brought into the enquiry and the continuity of that evidence
16. File of evidence - Who will create the file of evidence for submission to CPS/DA
17. Warrants - allocated officer to swear all warrants
18. Disclosure - Officer allocated to start a disclosure record ( court process )
19. Family liaison officer - Officer allocate to be the go between for the family and SIO
20. Media strategy - controlled release of information to press
I could go on but I think that you get the drift that any investigation of this type is massive and takes time and has to be that way to get it right so that by the time it gets to the Court process, there’s no room for doubt or for weaknesses in the investigation to allow the accused to get off on a technicality or procedural issue .
Then if there is a suspect you need to start thinking of who will do the suspect interview and the downstream monitoring and alibi checks .
And on top of all that, the biggest and most onerous task besides cell phone evidence retrieval, is CCTV ! And that is a biggie ... it takes Detectives hours upon hours to go through and watch CCTV to enable them to ascertain if there is anything of evidential value on each individual recording and that can be CCTV from the street , from a shop, car park, toll booth , buildings, churches , Public CCTV along a route and individual CCTV in peoples driveways or on their mobile phones etc
You start to get the idea of just how much work is involved in a major investigation and that’s before you go to a judge to swear out warrants and arrest the perpetrator. Once an arrest takes place, you then have interviews and downstream monitoring in real time of the interviews and then liaison with the CPS in UK and DA/attorney general I think maybe in the USA? And then putting the whole file of evidence together and ensuring full disclosure to the defence ... it’s massive workloads and it goes on and on ...
Cell phone data is also massive because of pings of location and subsequent searches and data dumps of all cell phones active within a specific MAST area and tracing who those numbers belong to and ascertain what they were doing in the area. And I can tell you that the evidence from one cell phone alone can run into thousands of pages for my detectives to read through and decipher what, If anything, is relevant to the case . So can you imagine when you have numerous people involved in an investigation, wether it to be rule them in or out or as an alibi or a victim, just how onerous this task is? And it is just one small part of the investigation.

Also the CCTV , people ask why now , 1 month later ? Well you don’t know what evidence that LE already have and if they had nothing else then the individual private residence CCTV would have been done immediately but it is a massive task and takes officers hours and hours to sit and watch every piece of CCTV that comes into the enquiry so it’s now easier to say , keep hold of your own individual residential CCTV and if you think that you have something of importance then let us know immediately otherwise we will get round to looking at it when we can because EVERYTHING has to be prioritised.

In the UK we have HOLMES ( home office Major enquires system ) and everything is entered into the system and looked at by three officers working with admin staff and any actions deemed necessary as a result of those 3 officers painstakingly going through every piece of information, item, cell phone number, cctv , search recovery evidence etc and allocating actions ( work ) to officers to compete before they are given another action . And some officers are individually given specific roles for example CCTV, Cell phones, Intelligence, Statement takers , Family liaison .

So this gives you an idea of just what is going on behind the scenes .
And the information released has to be protected and provenanced to ensure accuracy and the SIO doesn’t want information released unless absolutely necessary because the perpetrator may slip up and say something that hasn’t yet been released to the public and that then becomes dynamite to the investigation.
I hope this helps you all to understand the process , procedures and time for any major investigation to bear fruit .



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Thank you for taking the time to type that out and explain investigative work. It's very helpful, and clicking "like" isn't enough.

 

[mom2chloe]

It's a small world.

Construction contracting is a smaller world. Follow the money

New construction season. Breaking ground. Time is money.

Construction delay. Contractor delay. Time is money.

Call a friend. Call a foe. Time is money.

Meet the boss. Get'er done. Time is money.

Bigger fish. Move along. Following money.

Wife is gone. Time is money.

Promise money. Ask for money. Follow the money.

Call in favors. Not my money. Any money.

Silence is golden. Follow the money.

Keep your word. Break your word. Follow the money.

I honestly wondered if BM’s promise to pay whatever to get her back wasn’t a promise to pay an accomplice or someone with knowledge to keep quiet. Shhh IMO

 

[Angleterre]

Thank you for taking the time to type that out and explain investigative work. It's very helpful, and clicking "like" isn't enough.

You’re welcome
It took me a while and my fingers got a little tired so it may not be as succinct and professional as I would normally write but I think it gives you all an overview of just what it entails and what LE May be doing behind the scenes when some people believe them to be either doing nothing or having nothing to go on. I have said it before and I will say it again, none of us know what LE May have in evidential terms or what they know, unless we are involved in this particular case, which we are not.