Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #15

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ADMIN NOTE:

This post lands at random.

Websleuths is primarily pro-LE unless there is reason not to be. They aren't obliged to tell the public anything about their investigation just to satisfy curiosity. Members have no idea what LE is doing or has done behind the scenes that we are not privy to.

The evidence will lead. Just because that evidence hasn't got this wrapped up to the public's satisfaction in 1 month does not mean they don't know what they are doing.

Local, state and federal agencies are involved. To criticize, speculate or insinuate that any of them have not conducted a case properly just because we don't know every single detail is not appropriate when there are simply no specifics in MSM to substantiate such allegations.

Some posts have been removed. Please move on from any speculation that LE doesn't know what they are doing.

Thank you.
 
  • #182
But how do we know, that the money isn't being used for friends/family that are making the journey to help find SM? Lodging, meals, gas.... The truth is, we don't know what it's being used for, but for now, I am withholding a negative opinion. JMO so I'm still up on the fence and it's lonely up here.

I agree, the public does not know what the fundraising money has been used for - or if any of it has even been touched.
We don't really know who has dropped everything to come help search, be there for the girls, etc.
It's entirely possible every dollar raised went exactly where TN originally said it was going.

I don't think refunding all donations is essentially an admission of guilt.
I believe the campaign was started with the best intentions, and if refunds were offered it could be as simple as the money was not needed, as anticipated.

jmo
 
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But how do we know, that the money isn't being used for friends/family that are making the journey to help find SM? Lodging, meals, gas.... The truth is, we don't know what it's being used for, but for now, I am withholding a negative opinion. JMO so I'm still up on the fence and it's lonely up here.

Just one update about any such search would ease my mind. Which family members are searching? Now that the house is back in the possession of BM, why can't they stay at the house? How much extra does it cost to feed those people? You'd think that at least one update from the family on the progress of these searches would have been posted or that BM could do a second youtube thanking the people who are helping. Surely, it's not just family? So far, we've heard nothing from SM's family. We've seen no organized searches, no flyers advertising said searches, if I were donating, I'd want to know what is being done with it.

I think "expenses" could mean "BM is not making any money right now and has expenses to cover."
 
  • #184
Just one update about any such search would ease my mind. Which family members are searching? Now that the house is back in the possession of BM, why can't they stay at the house? How much extra does it cost to feed those people? You'd think that at least one update from the family on the progress of these searches would have been posted or that BM could do a second youtube thanking the people who are helping. Surely, it's not just family? So far, we've heard nothing from SM's family. We've seen no organized searches, no flyers advertising said searches, if I were donating, I'd want to know what is being done with it.

I think "expenses" could mean "BM is not making any money right now and has expenses to cover."

I think the only thing we've heard about any searches, was from BM on the TD video.
I don't even recall exactly what it was he said, but something pertaining to folks that were helping him search.

But that's not an update, and allegedly BM didn't even know he was being recorded, so it's not like he went out of his way to make a public update about anything.
He just shared that with some random stranger.
 
  • #185
It's curious that none of the media have covered the searches BM and his team have carried out.

moo
 
  • #186
The silence in this case is striking. Not by LE—I get their silence. But friends and family, missing page etc. Completely silent. It’s pretty unusual.
 
  • #187
I don't usually pat attention to the FundMoneyMe stuff either.
The only reason I am in this one, is because there's plenty of attention being payed to that account, while the public FIND page for SM is being pitifully neglected, day after day.
No updates, no identifying items the public might be looking for, no planned prayer vigils (you can even do that while social distancing), no coordinated volunteer searches literally no activity at all that indicates the people running it still believe she's "missing", or that we always see on FIND pages where their families are all in, to help bring them home.
Either they believe she's deceased and the urgency to find her isn't as compelling as it was in the beginning, or they're just more concerned about the free cash account, and making sure all the right names are attached in all the right places.
Or, shoot, maybe LE has contacted whoever's running the find page and told them to just stand down. I guess that's possible too.
Who knows. Nothing about this case rings true, for a missing person's case.
It reeks of a homicide investigation, all the way.
I mean, you don't normally dig up a home's concrete foundation, in search of a living person.

jmo

This is so dang true. From what we have been able to observe, SM isn't being "searched" for. Not as an alive and endangered person, anyway.

This is being treated as a homicide investigation. LE must have found compelling evidence almost immediately that led them to conclude this. My heart goes out to SM's daughters.
 
  • #188
IMO, I don’t believe the Find Suzanne Morphew FB page was intended to be a discussion group. I do believe it was created by family. They are probably horrified by the comments. It’s their family. The page serves no purpose anyway. IMO

I disagree. The official find page is typically the page where family provides official updates (not discussion) on the case including any details for coordinated public searches, etc.

I find it's never long before family disables the public comments when they find they can't control it.

(Also why WS approves an official find page as a link source (for updates, not public posts).

Nonetheless, the page went dark on 5/17. No updates since BM fb video plea.

MOO
 
  • #189
I think if he knew by the plans or schedule that concrete was about to be poured and a structure built there it’s a good hiding spot but not if you are SEEN there laying dirt or working. It’s risky to hide a body in the wilderness area near the home where there will be searches and tracking dogs. And especially if he was in a hurry and needed somewhere close. Just speculating of course we don’t even know if SM is deceased. On the other hand, if SM was murdered and it was a day or two before MD he could have driven her body somewhere else in the middle of the night hours away to hide it.

It would be easy for a buried body in the wilderness to get dug up by animals, too. Pieces could end up almost anywhere. Heck, plopped in the middle of a trail.

But I did have a thought after posting on another WS case. A great (sick) way to deposit a body would be in a trailhead/campground bear-protected trash can. No one can dig through those.
 
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I disagree. The official find page is typically the page where family provides official updates (not discussion) on the case including any details for coordinated public searches, etc.

I find it's never long before family disables the public comments when they find they can't control it.

(Also why WS approves an official find page as a link source (for updates, not public posts).

Nonetheless, the page went dark on 5/17. No updates since BM fb video plea.

MOO
You may have misread K9Enzo post. Seems you are saying the same thing. I do agree with K9Enzo, it is detrimental to the family's intent at this point and should come down
 
  • #192
I disagree. The official find page is typically the page where family provides official updates (not discussion) on the case including any details for coordinated public searches, etc.

I find it's never long before family disables the public comments when they find they can't control it.

(Also why WS approves an official find page as a link source (for updates, not public posts).

Nonetheless, the page went dark on 5/17. No updates since BM fb video plea.

MOO

I so agree!
 
  • #193
Unfortunately, the money has probably already been spent. MOO
What baffles my mind is all of the people who are willing to donate money to people who have million dollar homes and other obvious signs of wealth.

If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, why not donate the money to the needy and those who are truly in dire straits?

You have three healthy adults in the family who can work and earn their own monies. I could be wrong; however, I don't see them paying anyone to look for SM. So, no money is being spent for SM.
 
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IMO, I don’t believe the Find Suzanne Morphew FB page was intended to be a discussion group. I do believe it was created by family. They are probably horrified by the comments. It’s their family. The page serves no purpose anyway. IMO

Right. There are a few discussion pages on FB about this case. But that did seem to be a page created by family.

I went on the donation site and didn’t see any updates as people were alluding to. How many updates have there been, if anyone knows, and when was the last one?

I do think it’s a little odd that the family isn’t updating their FB page. Maybe someone needs to take charge of it.

I recall the FindAmanda FB page the family and friends of Amanda Eller set up. (The missing hiker found 17 days later in HI).

That was constantly updated. They had hundreds of volunteer searchers who used tracker apps so that every path they took would show on the map and different terrain could be searched.

I thought that was amazing!!!! It was super cool. It helped know which areas still needed to be looked at. Many people still went over the same areas, which was fine, but it showed people new areas to search.

I’ll tell ya’ if it was my missing family member I would be organizing foot searches, drone searches, etc., non-stop. No matter what LE told me.

Canvas. Searching door to door. Putting up signs everywhere asking for info.

Is any of that effort on behalf of her loved ones occurring anywhere?
 
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This was supposed to be a response guess it didn't take
 
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What baffles my mind is all of the people who are willing to donate money to people who have million dollar homes and other obvious signs of wealth.

If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, why not donate the money to the needy and those who are truly in dire straits?

You have three healthy adults in the family who can work and earn their own monies. I could be wrong; however, I don't see them paying anyone to look for SM. So, no money is being spent for SM.

What baffles my mind is of all the missing persons to sleuth, why am I sleuthing this one? There are many unwanted and foster kids who come up missing and no one pays attention to them. In part it is a media thing and we are led by the nose, but we do have choice once we can see what is going on. I keep on telling myself, once they find her I am going to move on to a case no one pays attention to. But after looking at some other cases, (I am new to this despite it saying well known member, how do I change that?) I see that it can take not just years, but sometimes decades to solve a case ??? Wow! Think about that. How many murderers are just walking around, getting away with it?

Yeah, this case/SM has sooo many people looking for her and the answers. So many others just get put in a file. It is really sad sometimes how the world turns. The more money you have...
 
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What baffles my mind is of all the missing persons to sleuth, why am I sleuthing this one? There are many unwanted and foster kids who come up missing and no one pays attention to them. In part it is a media thing and we are led by the nose, but we do have choice once we can see what is going on. I keep on telling myself, once they find her I am going to move on to a case no one pays attention to. But after looking at some other cases, (I am new to this despite it saying well known member, how do I change that?) I see that it can take not just years, but sometimes decades to solve a case ??? Wow! Think about that. How many murderers are just walking around, getting away with it?

Yeah, this case/SM has sooo many people looking for her and the answers. So many others just get put in a file. It is really sad sometimes how the world turns. The more money you have...
When Suzanne was first reported missing, so many of the comments and social media posts mentioned how sad because she was so attractive. “She’s stunning! Hope she is found soon” or “So beautiful! Prayers for this pretty lady.”

There were so many comments that mentioned her looks that it made me wonder if this case would have received the same amount of interest if she had been plain-looking or unremarkable. Unattractive people who go missing have families and friends who love them just as much.
 
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What baffles my mind is of all the missing persons to sleuth, why am I sleuthing this one? There are many unwanted and foster kids who come up missing and no one pays attention to them. In part it is a media thing and we are led by the nose, but we do have choice once we can see what is going on. I keep on telling myself, once they find her I am going to move on to a case no one pays attention to. But after looking at some other cases, (I am new to this despite it saying well known member, how do I change that?) I see that it can take not just years, but sometimes decades to solve a case ??? Wow! Think about that. How many murderers are just walking around, getting away with it?

Yeah, this case/SM has sooo many people looking for her and the answers. So many others just get put in a file. It is really sad sometimes how the world turns. The more money you have...
When Suzanne was first reported missing, so many of the comments and social media posts mentioned how sad because she was so attractive. “She’s stunning! Hope she is found soon” or “So beautiful! Prayers for this pretty lady.”

There were so many comments that mentioned her looks that it made me wonder if this case would have reverberate sane amount of interest if she had been plain-looking or unremarkable. Unattractive people who go missing have families and friends who love them just as much.
 
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Just one update about any such search would ease my mind. Which family members are searching? Now that the house is back in the possession of BM, why can't they stay at the house? How much extra does it cost to feed those people? You'd think that at least one update from the family on the progress of these searches would have been posted or that BM could do a second youtube thanking the people who are helping. Surely, it's not just family? So far, we've heard nothing from SM's family. We've seen no organized searches, no flyers advertising said searches, if I were donating, I'd want to know what is being done with it.

I think "expenses" could mean "BM is not making any money right now and has expenses to cover."
I see conflict of interest if one of the members doesn't want SM to be found yet is eagerly receiving food and gas money for search effort to find SM.
 
  • #200
BBM:

Of course it is.

Fotis Dulos also gave every appearance of running a "highly successful" business.
Turns out, both he and his business were abject failures.
That exterior veneer of success was completely superficial.

He was nothing but a con artist.
His business was a bust, and he was in a deep, deep financial hole from which he couldn't extricate himself.

I think that we're looking at exactly the same type of situation here.
I'm wondering if BM has always done his own business taxes.

I'm convinced that money lies at the root of SM's disappearance.

"For the love of money is the root of all evil."

JMO.
They have a lot of rental properties, and were in the process of selling one.
Barry Morphew files for guardianship of missing wife Suzanne Morphew
 
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