Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #15

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Thank you, <modsnip>
I am curious about clusters of disappearances, and how SM fits into one. I have googled one local BAD GUY in particular, but there are other SOs in the area. It takes just as much time and energy for LE to be ruling them out, and I am confident LE has been checking them while fully investigating BM. The BG I mentioned has been described as somewhat inept, but I guess he could have stepped up his game or gotten lucky. He appears to drift around.
I am just an amateur, but LE has probably been investigating random abductions as well as BM and local known characters, therefore I don’t need to.
This has left me to research the clusters.
Random unexplained disappearances aren’t rare, there are far too many on the FBIs 100 missing, plus NAM US, site, Charley Project, etc.
The rarity here is Suzanne’s risk factor. Simply this, her ordinary everyday life and her mountain trail riding, where did they intersect w/ evil.
MOO this is a very real possibility, but it is incredibly difficult, especially w/o a body.

According to David Paulides, the biggest cluster of missing people in CO is in RMNP...though there are cases scattered across the state. There is also a cluster in the Carson NF area in New Mexico.
 
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Re: BLM’s pickup truck GPS: could LE just ask for that data? Is a warrant required?

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure a warrant is required. Since some of the kind of information LE would want would be proprietary to the manufacturer, I doubt BLM would have the standing to grant full permission to search. IANAL, IMO
Well we know that LE had a warrant early on for BM’s truck and phone. Getting their ducks in a row.

Police search and carry out evidence bags from the $1.5M home of missing Colorado mom | Daily Mail Online
 
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I believe the job. Per previous posts it was arranged three weeks in advance! Now if the crime was commited on May 9th or earlier, he has the perfect alibis. Leave his phone at home, maybe S could not ‘find’ her Phone. Go for a drive together.... one comes back.... Drives to Denver the next day. Alibi checks out. No reason to be suspicious if they were seen together before May 10th. Now for that item that was found near the bike that LE refused to tell (per Dad with a phone). BM what it was? I am struggling... why would they shut up and not talk with him on the first evening. That item is hugely important. What in the heck was it? Phone with his fingerprints???
bbm
Agreed.

The bolded is also hugely important.
Why are LE not telling the husband everything ?
If she is missing or abducted or like BM said in the 'spontaneous' interview -- "...she may have driven off the road and got herself into the creek and washed away..."

And we are supposed to believe something happened like this--- then LE would be sharing every detail with BM and there would've been a presser with both of them exhorting the public for clues and a full description.

Just saying I'm not buying what BM is selling at this time.
Imo.
 
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Yes, you're correct and the reporting call time is established by LE, but I'm wondering about the order of phone calls between the girls, their Dad and the neighbor - the back and forth. Also, it could be that the neighbor and BM were speaking on the phone together while she was checking around the home and he had her call LE? It makes sense to me for him to be guiding her telling her where to look and what to look for.

I still don't think it's odd that a neighbor called LE instead of BM or the girls because she was actually, physically there and LE wants to know exactly what's going on at that moment to lead her to call and make a report. Otherwise, it's a near fruitless, frustrating game of telephone speaking to someone who isn't there, who hasn't been walking around the property or peering in the garage or house windows, who called whom and what led the neighbor to be there to check in the first place.

Someone upstream posted that it's possible/probable that the neighbor is a person of contact? Neighbors do this, especially when living in sparsely populated area like theirs. They're not completely out in the boonies, but close enough that if you screamed, your neighbors may or may not hear. Wherever we lived, we've always found a neighbor to trust with a key and contact information "just in case" and we live in suburbia.
We have always had a neighbor as a contact -- they had our phone #s and, if we felt they were trustworthy, a key. That said, I sure wish we knew, through phone tracing, where BM and the others were while they were making calls . . . I'm sure LE knows, but I'm dying to know.
 
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BBM

Yes, BM says that the girls were spending the day with her.

The question is, when did BM realize that the girls were running so late that they wouldn’t be spending MD with her, and she was spending the day alone? That’s the part that makes no sense to me.
MSM (DM) reported the girls were in Idaho on camping trip.

You can speculate that the girls were heading home but for some reason not close to Colorado around 6 pm on Sunday when neighbor called 911; or they were on a trip not scheduled to end for a couple more days and never intended to be home on Mother's Day but had been trying to reach SM that day to no avail. Nothing confirmed -- not even BM's version.

ETA: add link
Nearly two dozen cops re-canvass the neighborhood where mom-of-two went missing a month ago | Daily Mail Online
 
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Kids of this age group aren’t exactly known for their time management skills. Barry was probably well into his day in Denver before SM found out they we running late. Probably hours late.

Sure, he’d be in Denver.

I wonder if the girls thought BM was home with SM on Mother’s Day, though.

That would make more sense to me than Mom alone, dad out of town, girls running hours late, and zero family communication earlier in the day to address any of this.

Speculation, MOO
 
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bbm
Exactly. ^^^

LE wouldn't procure a warrant for someone they've cleared !
It's telling what LE are not saying.
Sadly.
MOO.

Check the date on the article
 
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Well we know that LE had a warrant early on for BM’s truck and phone. Getting their ducks in a row.

Police search and carry out evidence bags from the $1.5M home of missing Colorado mom | Daily Mail Online

I reread the article and a lot of the things said are not true-we know that now. But I am hoping that LE actually did have BLM’s truck and phone. If they did, I am sure they are a lot farther along in their investigation. I think those two things alone would be telling as far as guilt or innocence.
 
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Same with me. And 95% of checking in with my girls is via text...daily.
Me too...daily texting with 19 yo and we send each other funny Tik Tok videos, interesting news articles, photos, etc. and she lets me know about her school work & tests, etc. she is home now until August but when she is away at college we text daily and talk at least every other day or so. I suppose this will change as she gets older but I still worry about her every day and need to know she is safe. And I still have the ability to track her on Life 360 which she calls my “stalker app” and the only reason I can still get away with this is because I still pay her cell phone bill. :p
 
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We have always had a neighbor as a contact -- they had our phone #s and, if we felt they were trustworthy, and a key. That said, I sure wish we knew, through phone tracing, where BM and the others were while they were making calls . . . I'm sure LE knows, but I'm dying to know.
Welcome to WS!
 
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bbm
Exactly. ^^^

LE wouldn't procure a warrant for someone they've cleared !
It's telling what LE are not saying.
Sadly.
MOO.

No kidding. In fact, getting the warrant means the opposite: BM was, at that time, a suspect.

Personally, I think the canvassing around Salida without clearing BM means he's still a suspect. He or someone in Salida who knew the family's habits.
 
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Same with me. And 95% of checking in with my girls is via text...daily.
Me too...daily texting with 19 yo and we send each other funny Tik Tok videos, interesting news articles, photos, etc. and she lets me know about her school work & tests, etc. she is home now until August but when she is away at college we text daily and talk at least every other day or so. I suppose this will change as she gets older but I still worry about her every day and need to know she is safe. And I still have the ability to track her on Life 360 which she calls my “stalker app” and the only reason I can still get away with this is because I still pay her cell phone bill. :p
That was a stab at levity and I guess it failed. In the show Survivor, one of the contestants used to climb a palm tree over the water well and listen to the others plotting. He did it in two separate shows and no one figured it out. He won both times.
I got it! :D He was pretty smart...but no one will be able to get away with that on Survivor again because they will all be looking up to check the trees before they plot. Ha
 
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Two thoughts! There are some really, great insightful posts here. I hope that they are called into the tip line. A few come to mind, the cafe BM was last seen in, was SM with him? The post about statistics on lion attacks and BM being a big game hunter. So many great more posts.
I don’t think he committed the crime at home. He knew sniffer dogs would figure that out. My gut he brought her to a romantic wilderness place for and before Mother’s Day ... This is heart breaking and terrifying.
Premeditation. That is quite possible. If one is determined to disappear a spouse, it would seem smart to carefully select a prepared site that you were confident would not be found. In that case, the options are endless, aren't they? Months of scouting out sites, mediculously going over details in ones mind. This is the fence that I sit on, premeditation or a sudden fit of rage. At this point, I'm going with the later. Moo
 
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I reread the article and a lot of the things said are not true-we know that now. But I am hoping that LE actually did have BLM’s truck and phone. If they did, I am sure they are a lot farther along in their investigation. I think those two things alone would be telling as far as guilt or innocence.

Aside from the intensive 3-day evidence collection at the family home, sadly, this information does not appear to have led to Suzanne. It's possible that some of those large searches (that we do not know about except that they happened) were in areas related to BM's digital footprint. I mean, that would be an obvious thing to do.

But I agree with you that BM's truck and phone have provided an enormous amount for LE to investigate, and that seems to be what they're doing.
 
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We have always had a neighbor as a contact -- they had our phone #s and, if we felt they were trustworthy, and a key. That said, I sure wish we knew, through phone tracing, where BM and the others were while they were making calls . . . I'm sure LE knows, but I'm dying to know.

Welcome @Goldenseal!

Great question and I agree - L.E. absolutely knows!

I believe I'll be astounded at the amount and detail of the data they've amassed (cell phone dumps, gps, cell phone data, computer, surveillance cams, etc.)
 
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I hope you are feeling well now and thank you for this post. Not only do many people keep most of their hair these days, but there are so many cute ways to augment one's hair or wear hats/scarves etc - a woman can go through chemo and remain attractive.

As far as we know, Suzanne had hit the 1 year mark of completing treatment (the way I understand the MSM). I bet she looked as radiant as ever.

What is the source for this? Who sends their 20 year old to an organized camp? During CoVid? While trying to protect Mom from CoVid?

Is this from an interview? <modsnip>

MSM confirms daughters were (camping) in Idaho and that phone calls were exchanged with a neighbor because they obviously were not close enough in proximity to check on SM on their own.

Inquires about the specifics of any trip or their exact location is going to get us in trouble. Just sayin...

Let's visualize and speculate a person in SM's position with a sister coming to visit from Idaho. Salida to the Idaho border is not less than 500 miles and/or more than 8 hours. Technically, somebody coming from Idaho could be closer to Denver than Salida depending on the hour of departure. MOO

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8 h 52 min (515.2 mi) via I-80 W

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