Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #17

[Warwick7]

Indiana Supreme Court public access case search - MyCase
06/06/2020
Automated ENotice Issued to Parties
Order Issued ---- 6/5/2020 : Mary Jane Hoeller Order Granting Temporary Guardianship ---- 6/5/2020 : Mary Jane Hoeller Letters of Guardianship Issued ---- 6/5/2020 : Mary Jane Hoeller Order Issued ---- 6/5/2020 : Mary Jane Hoeller
09/01/2020
Hearing on Petition to Establish Guardianship
Session:
09/01/2020 10:00 AM, Judicial Officer: Casati, Michael A.
Comment:
345-MAC-permanent (by video, 30 minutes)

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30 minutes to strip her of all her rights - and she isn't even available to be examined because she is missing... and only an interested party can object.
JMO
ETA: Case number because sometimes the direct link expires
In Re: the Guardianship of Suzanne R Morphew

Case Number 29D01-2006-GU-000096 Court Hamilton Superior Court 1 Type GU - Guardianship Filed 06/01/2020 Status 06/05/2020 , Pending (active) Reference
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Incapacitated Adult/Child Morphew, Suzanne R

Petitioner Morphew, Barry L

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[MassGuy]

That bothered me as well when in his under 30-second video BM began with "Oh, Suzanne..." It seemed a chiding remark to me. It felt as if he was blaming her for what had happened. MOO

I’d feel similar, if I didn’t believe the entire thing was scripted. To me, it almost sounds like the start to some love poem or country song:

“Oh! Susanna, Oh don't you cry for me,
I've come from Indiana
Wid my banjo on my knee.”

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

That bothered me as well when in his under 30-second video BM began with "Oh, Suzanne..." It seemed a chiding remark to me. It felt as if he was blaming her for what had happened. MOO

ITA. I also felt there was a note of condescension like BM was admonishing a child. IMO

 

[GordianKnot]

I’d feel similar, if I didn’t believe the entire thing was scripted. To me, it almost sounds like the start to some love poem or country song:

“Oh! Susanna, Oh don't you cry for me,
I've come from Indiana
Wid my banjo on my knee.”

Actually, watching that 26-second video, I'm reminded more of the opening lines from that "Fire and Rain" song by James Taylor.

How do they go again? Let's see if I can remember:

"Just yesterday morning, they let me know you were gone.
Suzanne, the plans I - Whoops! I mean they - made put an end to you."

James Taylor's song about his Suzanne is 3:2o seconds long.
So, he took nearly 3 minutes longer to express his feelings than BM took to talk about his missing wife.

Huh.

JMO.

 

[al66pine]

Crowdfunder Site. Refunds?

Yep, they should take it down and refund everyone. Should have been done weeks ago.

@BeckyF Seems like a good idea and sounds simple enough to some, and I'm trying to think thru logistics.
1. Who should take it down? TN? BM? Others team members named? Crowdfunder website itself?
2. Who would supply $ to refund donors? Same as above? TN, BM, crowdfunder website?
3. Should all $ be returned? Is beneficiary obligated to return all $, even if it's been spent for stated use? What if beneficiary has spent all the $?

On crowdfunder site, iiuc, after a campaign is established & donations have been made, then periodically, donations (accumulated in conduit a/c subject to crowdfunder's control) are automatically transferred (weekly?) to campaign's designated bank or fin. institution. Let's say in first 5 weeks, (hypothetically) $32,000 of $50,000 goal has been donated, then likely, iiuc, little, say $2,000, of that total remains in conduit a/c, which crowdfunder website could refund to donors.
4. Who should receive a refund of donations? The ppl who just donated $2000 in the last week? What about ppl who donated the first wk? And the ppl who donated in between? Should each donor get a prorata share of $? If every donor is refunded in full, who pays for $30,000 refunding shortfall?

I may not be thinking about this from the right angle but from home-office/corporate policy & operations viewpoint, IME it's not a piece o'cake logistically. just my 2 cts.

 

[Janeumayer]

Body language expert analyzes missing mom Suzanne Morphew hubby's 25-second plea from Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace analyzing BM’s plea

 

[MassGuy]

Body language expert analyzes missing mom Suzanne Morphew hubby's 25-second plea from Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace analyzing BM’s plea

Wow! I’d never heard that before. I thought it was odd, both in the sense that he did this in the first place, and the way he delivered his plea. I didn’t pay any attention to the pauses though, and the significance of where they occurred.

Thanks!

 

[Murphy1950]

Crowdfunder Site. Refunds?
@BeckyF Seems like a good idea and sounds simple enough to some, and I'm trying to think thru logistics.
1. Who should take it down? TN? BM? Others team members named? Crowdfunder website itself?
2. Who would supply $ to refund donors? Same as above? TN, BM, crowdfunder website?
3. Should all $ be returned? Is beneficiary obligated to return all $, even if it's been spent for stated use? What if beneficiary has spent all the $?
4. Who should receive a refund of donations? The ppl who just donated $2000 in the last week? What about ppl who donated the first wk? And the ppl who donated in between? Should each donor get a prorata share of $? If every donor is refunded in full, who pays for $30,000 refunding shortfall?

RSBM....

I'm not trying to be obnoxious, but I think you are WAY over thinking it. A simple delete of the **** page sooner rather than later is appropriate now and should have been done in the earliest days, IMO. Honestly...if I had felt compelled to give in the first place, whatever was returned, so be it.

 

[LietKynes]

If nothing else it speaks to someone's total lack of awareness, no concern as to how it may look to the average Joe (the public), Ok...I could give one family member a pass...but all of them(? ) Nobody in the family...sees anything wrong with that picture? Bizarre...

Agreed.
If nothing else... why the silence ?
I can understand LE not wanting to risk their investigation.

But Suzanne's side of the family ?
And it's doubtful, imo, the relatives of a missing person would be able to keep quiet.
Unless they know something.
That's the only reason I can come up with for not making a public plea.

 

[Murphy1950]

Actually, watching that 26-second video, I'm reminded more of the opening lines from that "Fire and Rain" song by James Taylor.

How do they go again? Let's see if I can remember:

"Just yesterday morning, they let me know you were gone.
Suzanne, the plans I - Whoops! I mean they - made put an end to you."

James Taylor's song about his Suzanne is 3:2o seconds long.
So, he took nearly 3 minutes longer to express his feelings than BM took to talk about his missing wife.

Huh.

JMO.

This post is getting to me GK, I remember the first time I heard this song, always loved it. When he said the words "Oh Suzanne" in his exasperated tone, the connotation just resonated with me, I read it as blame for what had happened.
As if SM was responsible....

 

[GordianKnot]

Body language expert analyzes missing mom Suzanne Morphew hubby's 25-second plea from Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace analyzing BM’s plea

Every time I watch that 26-second clip, it puts me in mind of a hostage video.

I keep waiting for BM to hold up a newspaper showing the date on it.

JMO.

 

[Sillybilly]

Body language expert analyzes missing mom Suzanne Morphew hubby's 25-second plea from Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace analyzing BM’s plea

Please bear in mind that Susan Constantine also analyzed Wayne Cheney in the Mollie Tibbetts case:

If you listen to him when he’s talking, he’s talking about how it’s affecting himself,” Constantine said. “He’s not at all concerned about what happened to the victim.”

Constantine also touched on Cheney’s body language during the interview, which to her, seemed to be movements of deception.

“He has this increased anxiety, which is causing all these physiological responses of itching the ears to adjusting his glasses, to stroking his hair, to, you know, crossing his arms and uncrossing them. So what happens is that, when you’re under anxiety, it increases blood flow and causes irritation to his capillaries. Those are all deceptive indicators.”

Cheney had nothing to do with Mollie's killing. Rivera confessed to her kidnapping and killing (but ultimately pled Not Guilty and trial process is ongoing).

 

[al66pine]

RSBM....I'm not trying to be obnoxious, but I think you are WAY over thinking it. A simple delete of the **** page sooner rather than later is appropriate now and should have been done in the earliest days, IMO. Honestly...if I had felt compelled to give in the first place, whatever was returned, so be it.

@Murphy1950 Overthinking it? Yes, guilty as charged and will undoubtedly be a recidivist. Some of my bad habits are ingrained from years of viewing issues thru a corporate/home office/big-picture lens. Having retired shortly after 9/11, sometimes I still relapse into those old ways. My apologies.
Your post views OP's question from a diff angle, a perfectly valid angle but narrower than mine.
And yes, I know the organizers could shut it down in no time flat. And seems appropriate to do so, but I doubt that will happen. More likely, w benign neglect, the campaign will just slowly wither away and die on the vine.
my 2 cts.

 

[Knox]

Please bear in mind that Susan Constantine also analyzed Wayne Cheney in the Mollie Tibbetts case:

If you listen to him when he’s talking, he’s talking about how it’s affecting himself,” Constantine said. “He’s not at all concerned about what happened to the victim.”

Constantine also touched on Cheney’s body language during the interview, which to her, seemed to be movements of deception.

“He has this increased anxiety, which is causing all these physiological responses of itching the ears to adjusting his glasses, to stroking his hair, to, you know, crossing his arms and uncrossing them. So what happens is that, when you’re under anxiety, it increases blood flow and causes irritation to his capillaries. Those are all deceptive indicators.”

Cheney had nothing to do with Mollie's killing. Rivera confessed to her kidnapping and killing (but ultimately pled Not Guilty and trial process is ongoing).

I actually felt WC was a little odd, but never thought he had anything to do with Mollie's disappearance.

I get a way different feeling in this case. It's interesting that SC is picking out the same things in BM's micro statement that we are. When something is odd and doesn't feel right ...

 

[MassGuy]

I actually felt WC was a little odd, but never thought he had anything to do with Mollie's disappearance.

I get a way different feeling in this case. It's interesting that SC is picking out the same things in BM's micro statement that we are. When something is odd and doesn't feel right ...

Ignoring what’s actually in the video, the fact that the video even exists, is extremely troubling to me.

An appeal should have been made as soon as possible, with a spokesperson appointed if necessary. That’s what we’ve seen in countless missing persons cases, and it’s the type of thing that pays dividends.

Instead, we got “too soon,” and a spokesman who issued a set of demands, one of which was to not appear on camera.

Vanessa Guillen’s family (for instance) is like that of so many families we’ve seen before; they are screaming from the mountaintops, begging for every second of attention to be paid to their missing loved one.

Here, BM appears to be hoping for the opposite.

It’s a moot point probably, as Suzanne was never kidnapped. It’s almost as if someone knows that, and wants this to just go away.

It won’t. Thank God.

 

[gitana1]

Why is it irrelevant?

Because, once again, the issue is not what’s smart. It’s simply about human nature.

How do innocent people behave when someone they love is missing and they’re desperate to get them back? It’s not about how you think they SHOULD behave when it comes to cooperation with the cops. It’s what innocent people who actually love their missing loved one and desperately want them back, act.

The thing is, norms of human behavior exist and we base judgments and assessments on those norms all the time.

So in a case like this, if someone refused to cooperate with the police, take a lie detector test, and lawyers up right away, it’s a very bad sign, regardless as to how corrupt cops can be and how pragmatic it is to get a lawyer and refuse a lie detector test.

 

[BeckyF]

Because, once again, the issue is not what’s smart. It’s simply about human nature.

How do innocent people behave when someone they love is missing and they’re desperate to get them back? It’s not about how you think they SHOULD behave when it comes to cooperation with the cops. It’s what innocent people who actually love their missing loved one and desperately want them back, act.

The thing is, norms of human behavior exist and we base judgments and assessments on those norms all the time.

So in a case like this, if someone refused to cooperate with the police, take a lie detector test, and lawyers up right away, it’s a very bad sign, regardless as to how corrupt cops can be and how pragmatic it is to get a lawyer and refuse a lie detector test.

Understood. I wasn’t disagreeing with you, I just needed to understand why you felt this way about this case. Thank You for giving me another perspective.

 

[BeckyF]

Deleted/ duplicate

 

[Hannah3105]

Just putting this out there, HYPOTHETICALLY of course. If LE took the computer module with GPS data from BM’s truck, causing BM to need to visit a dealership to go and get a new one, would you suggest that this points to the fact that he 100% has not been cleared, as he suggested in the video with TD? MOO.

 

[BeckyF]

Crowdfunder Site. Refunds?
@BeckyF Seems like a good idea and sounds simple enough to some, and I'm trying to think thru logistics.
1. Who should take it down? TN? BM? Others team members named? Crowdfunder website itself?
2. Who would supply $ to refund donors? Same as above? TN, BM, crowdfunder website?
3. Should all $ be returned? Is beneficiary obligated to return all $, even if it's been spent for stated use? What if beneficiary has spent all the $?

On crowdfunder site, iiuc, after a campaign is established & donations have been made, then periodically, donations (accumulated in conduit a/c subject to crowdfunder's control) are automatically transferred (weekly?) to campaign's designated bank or fin. institution. Let's say in first 5 weeks, (hypothetically) $32,000 of $50,000 goal has been donated, then likely, iiuc, little, say $2,000, of that total remains in conduit a/c, which crowdfunder website could refund to donors.
4. Who should receive a refund of donations? The ppl who just donated $2000 in the last week? What about ppl who donated the first wk? And the ppl who donated in between? Should each donor get a prorata share of $? If every donor is refunded in full, who pays for $30,000 refunding shortfall?

I may not be thinking about this from the right angle but from home-office/corporate policy & operations viewpoint, IME it's not a piece o'cake logistically. just my 2 cts.

Yeah I’m not sure about the gimme fund policies as to who gets refunds and when and how. etc., I’m not sure that it matters really. Are you saying that due to the work involved that they should not give refunds? I guess I don’t understand why you are questioning the refund policies that the site would already have established or why it matters in this instance.