Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #17

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  • #961
IMO, BM's nephew pushed him to make this video. He should have been just interviewed and said "I don't know what happened or where she is, it's up to LE, FBI and CBI to find out". (end of story)
So he should have just said " I don't know what happened or where she is, it's up to LE, FBI and CBI to find out". (end of story]

Really? That's what a loving husband should say when his wife goes missing? I don't know where she is, let the cops figure it out? o_O
 
  • #962
Excellent insight! There are differences beyond the trophy hunter type IMO. The deer population is out of hand here, and it is actually rare that we do not see at least one crossing the road when driving at night. often we see them in broad daylight.
There actually have been several fatal accidents in this area, only explanation is the driver may have swerved to avoid a deer.
The other reason given is that because we have played w/ Mother Nature, the natural processes have been disrupted. Overpopulation leads to all sorts of issues, and actually deterioration.
If all hunters simply followed the rule, eat what you kill, it actually solves several problems.
I truly had your image of Bambi, until they made it impossible to maintain my roses w/o a ten foot fence, my vegetable garden, apples, etc. Plenty of forage, but they ARE greedy.
We don’t know that BLM is a trophy hunter. There was actually a thread almost deleted because we assumed all the trophies were BLM, and they weren’t?! I may have that wrong, it’s always hard to go back and try to figure out those deleted.
My sons hunt, and have gotten quite good w/ venison. It does help if they don’t tell me in advance.
I don’t think being a hunter makes him a killer, at all. But, subconsciously I probably hold it against him.
I said in the beginning that I actually preferred to think it was BM because I thought it might be quick and painless compared to being abducted and possibly tortured by a stranger. I’m really not as judgmental as I may sound...
BTW... It’s my BIL who is the mighty hunter around here. I’m actually very grateful for his skill. I just cooked deer brats stuffed with cheese and jalapeños and I have a freezer full of venison but I’m truly hoping my BIL gets an Elk this winter when my husband and him go to New Mexico hunting. :rolleyes: There is nothing better than elk ...JMO. :D
 
  • #963
So he should have just said " I don't know what happened or where she is, it's up to LE, FBI and CBI to find out". (end of story]

Really? That's what a loving husband should say when his wife goes missing? I don't know where she is, let the cops figure it out? o_O
What else do you suggest? He jumps up and down and screams?
 
  • #964
What else do you suggest? He jumps up and down and screams?
I wish someone would jump up and down and scream for Suzanne :(
 
  • #965
BBM
It didn’t sound like he was talking about a “loved one” when he described how, “you know the cat drags it’s prey up...”
Ita.
Disgusting ... and that's no way to describe your wife whom you promised to love and cherish.
Although it's definitely a "tell" for the way Suzanne was thought about.
In a way it's good to have that interview because it shows what's going on inside a person's mind.
At least in this case, this is how it looks.
Imo.
 
  • #966
BBM
It didn’t sound like he was talking about a “loved one” when he described how, “you know the cat drags it’s prey up...”

That was off putting to me, too.

But to give benefit of the doubt, I could see my dad saying something that direct about a loved one. It’s hard for me to explain without getting too personal, but some very loving, loyal men (people, really) are also shockingly matter-of-fact when terrible things happen.

MOO
 
  • #967
Maybe he doesn't want to poke the bear any more than he did. :rolleyes:
I think that’s part of the reason I’m so suspicious of him. I don’t like people who don’t just speak their minds and say what they think... I hate it when people calculate and manipulate ... how their words or actions will be received. I think what I’m missing from BM is emotion. I know there are good people who don’t show emotions, but dammit I want some of that ambition and passion that is in him to be shown for his wife! If he has the kind of ambition that pushes him to keep making business deals during this tragedy... he’s got it to use to help find his wife.
 
  • #968
I wish someone would jump up and down and scream for Suzanne :(

We've been doing a pretty decent job of making noise about SM here on her thread, even if her family isn't.

TOS prevents some of us from saying everything we'd like to, but trust me:

As soon as an arrest is made in this case, it's going to get plenty loud in here.

JMO.
 
  • #969
Yes!!! If BM had to go out to “do something” on Saturday, both his and SM’s phones might have stayed home together. BM probably remembered to take it when he left for Denver early Sunday?;)

The phone issue is one reason why I think Suzanne is close to home. (And I think something happened before Mother’s Day Sunday, too.)

I tried to imagine myself harming another, and if my phone would give anything away, and it absolutely would—if I turned off my phone for a few hours, or had no phone usage for several hours, or if all of a sudden it was texts only when usually there were phone calls.

Historically, there aren’t many times my phone is turned off, and I don’t usually have protracted times of inactivity.

I wish we knew more about Suzanne’s phone, whether or not it has been recovered. (Heck, I wish we knew more about anything connected to this case!)

I think the phone records of both Ms are probably pretty revealing. BM may not be as foolish as PF, but I don’t think he’s a brainiac when it comes to covering tracks, either.
 
  • #970
I think that’s part of the reason I’m so suspicious of him. I don’t like people who don’t just speak their minds and say what they think... I hate it when people calculate and manipulate ... how their words or actions will be received. I think what I’m missing from BM is emotion. I know there are good people who don’t show emotions, but dammit I want some of that ambition and passion that is in him to be shown for his wife! If he has the kind of ambition that pushes him to keep making business deals during this tragedy... he’s got it to use to help find his wife.
My mother once told me, 'Still waters run deep'. She was a very wise woman.

ETA: I know it's an old adage but it was applicable at the time and I believe it is in this case, also.
 
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  • #971
That was off putting to me, too.

But to give benefit of the doubt, I could see my dad saying something that direct about a loved one. It’s hard for me to explain without getting too personal, but some very loving, loyal men (people, really) are also shockingly matter-of-fact when terrible things happen.

MOO
Yes, I think they just accept the situation. I know alot of men that are like that.
 
  • #972
I wish someone would jump up and down and scream for Suzanne :(
HKP I don’t think we will be seeing that anytime soon - nothing from anyone really and that means just one thing to me IMO
Patiently waiting for an arrest ...
JMO
 
  • #973
The phone issue is one reason why I think Suzanne is close to home. (And I think something happened before Mother’s Day Sunday, too.)

I tried to imagine myself harming another, and if my phone would give anything away, and it absolutely would—if I turned off my phone for a few hours, or had no phone usage for several hours, or if all of a sudden it was texts only when usually there were phone calls.

Historically, there aren’t many times my phone is turned off, and I don’t usually have protracted times of inactivity.

I wish we knew more about Suzanne’s phone, whether or not it has been recovered. (Heck, I wish we knew more about anything connected to this case!)

I think the phone records of both Ms are probably pretty revealing. BM may not be as foolish as PF, but I don’t think he’s a brainiac when it comes to covering tracks, either.

BBM:

I think the phones will have a story to tell, as well.

I agree with your assessment of BM.
I mean, when you say someone isn't as big a moron as PF, you're setting the bar as low as it can possibly go, but it's true that BM can't possibly be as asinine as PF.

But being cunning and being intelligent are two different things.
A person can be one, but not necessarily the other.

Here are some questions I've wondered about r/t the cell phones:
  • Were there any text messages, google searches, etc., that were deleted from BMs and/or SMs phones, and if so, when were they wiped?
  • Was a factory reset done on either BMs or SMs phone the weekend of her disappearance?
  • Were either of their phones turned off for any period of time between May 8th - May 10th.
  • Were the phones traveling together between May 8th - May 10th? If so, when and where did the phones ping?
  • Who was SM in contact with other than BM and daughters in the weeks leading up to her disappearance?
  • When was the last phone conversation (not text) that SM had with someone other than an immediate family member, and with whom did she speak?
  • When was SM's phone last used for any type of contact, either call or text, and where was BM's phone pinging at that time?
  • Was SM's phone left at the home when she went for her (staged) bike ride, is it missing, or was it one of the items found by LE during their searches?
JMO.
 
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  • #974
LE told BM/Family What?
I remember somewhere on here it was said LE did not want them to talk because it would ruin the investigation. MOO
@kay74 :) bbm ibm My thread searches and memory are both coming up empty on ^^^ stmt in this case. Since you posted about LE & "ruin the investigation" as being said "somewhere on here" I'd appreciate a link to MSM or WS approved source for the stmt. Altho I could have forgotten having read it, since such a stmt would seem quite out of the ordinary for LE investigation in a MisPers case, I believe it would have jumped out and bit me. Can you pls find a link? Thx in adv.

If someone else here posted that LE did not want BM or family to talk, because it would "ruin the investigation" I believe that particular poster or other posters would be able to find link to MSM or WS approved source for the stmt. Maybe they will look back too, if they have time.
 
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  • #975
IMO:

Those who want BM to emote and get in front of the media and do visible searches for SM consider this:

IF (and assuming he is) the one who harmed SM, isn't it actually better (investigation-wise) that he's not pretending to be a grieving spouse and not putting on the typical dance seen by spouses? Isn't it more obvious to those who know the things to look for when a spouse isn't acting in ways one would expect?

Or, is the desire to witness these expected grief and worry behaviors *so strong* that it doesn't matter if a spouse who caused a disappearance is putting on a show and faking it? Is that a better thing to do, to play games so people who want to see it will feel better?

I think it's better if a non-grieving, non-caring spouse be themselves, even if their true self is heinous, and not try to fool anyone, more than has already been done thus far. As I see it: if a spouse killed their partner they already aren't loving and giving and grieving, so that's not even in the equation to begin with, and putting on a show wastes time.

/IMO
 
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  • #976
LE told BM/Family What?
@kay74 :) bbm ibm My thread searches and memory are both coming up empty on ^^^ stmt in this case. Since you posted about LE & "ruin the investigation" as being said "somewhere on here" I'd appreciate a link to MSM or WS approved source for the stmt. Altho I could have forgotten having read it, since such a stmt would seem quite out of the ordinary for LE investigation in a MisPers case, I believe it would have jumped out and bit me. Can you pls find a link? Thx in adv.

If someone else here posted that LE did not want BM or family to talk, because it would "ruin the investigation" I believe that particular poster or other posters would be able to find link to MSM or WS approved source for the stmt. Maybe they will look back too, if they have time.
Agreed, @al66pine .
Yes, a link would be nice as afaik LE did not say that.
At all.
I think that it was not in msm at all ?

Unless, of course, it was --then a link should be available.

If we post as fact. then a link is required; but if it's just 'somewhere on here' and our opinion only, then just edit the comment to reflect that.

A good rule of thumb for everyone. :)
 
  • #977
Agreed, @al66pine .
Yes, a link would be nice as afaik LE did not say that.
At all.
I think that it was not in msm at all ?

Unless, of course, it was --then a link should be available.

If we post as fact. then a link is required; but if it's just 'somewhere on here' and our opinion only, then just edit the comment to reflect that.

A good rule of thumb for everyone. :)
I believe it was in one of the interviews, if that helps. it WAS discussed here, and proved eventually to be a MSM interview. It definitely narrows it a bit, as there aren't too many interviews.
 
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I believe it was in one of the interviews, if that helps. it WAS discussed here, and proved eventually to be a MSM interview. It definetly narrows it a bit, as there aren't too many interviews.
Thanks for clarifying this, feistyomi :) ; I was referring to the 'somewhere on here' and am waiting for the msm link to be provided.
Otherwise, it's just speculation and that's fine -- as due to a dearth of information there's a lot of speculation and theories on here.
And then the poster could just say it's their opinion.

But your helpful post sounds like there's a msm link, so that's good.
Just waiting for the link to be posted.

I really thought imo that LE did not say that and it wasn't in their presser ?
 
  • #979
IMO:

Those who want BM to emote and get in front of the media and do visible searches for SM consider this:

IF (and assuming he is) the one who harmed SM, isn't it actually better (investigation-wise) that he's not pretending to be a grieving spouse and not putting on the typical dance seen by spouses? Isn't it more obvious to those who know the things to look for when a spouse isn't acting in ways one would expect?

Or, is the desire to witness these expected grief and worry behaviors *so strong* that it doesn't matter if a spouse who caused a disappearance is putting on a show and faking it? Is that a better thing to do, to play games so people who want to see it will feel better?

I think it's better if a non-grieving, non-caring spouse be themselves, even if their true self is heinous, and not try to fool anyone, more than has already been done thus far. As I see it: if a spouse killed their partner they already aren't loving and giving and grieving, so that's not even in the equation to begin with, and putting on a show wastes time.

/IMO
I want him in front of the cameras because when people get in front of the cameras, they make mistakes.

Just ask convicted killer Chris Watts, and dead to rights <modsnip> Letecia Stauch.

BM has decided to play this like another Colorado killer: Patrick Frazee.

“No body, no crime.”

If he didn’t do it, then his behavior is just vile. If he did, it’s understandable.
 
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  • #980
I don’t think being a hunter makes him a killer, at all. But, subconsciously I probably hold it against him.
I said in the beginning that I actually preferred to think it was BM because I thought it might be quick and painless compared to being abducted and possibly tortured by a stranger. I’m really not as judgmental as I may sound...
BTW... It’s my BIL who is the mighty hunter around here. I’m actually very grateful for his skill. I just cooked deer brats stuffed with cheese and jalapeños and I have a freezer full of venison but I’m truly hoping my BIL gets an Elk this winter when my husband and him go to New Mexico hunting. :rolleyes: There is nothing better than elk ...JMO. :D
Off topic, but my neighbor, brings his summer sausage to our fall bonfires, so good! ... he’s a Dr, high risk pregnancies, definitely not a killer, ooh and his wife’s venison chili is to die for. (oh dear, I can’t believe I just typed that)

I agree w/ your statement earlier. I think it might be the mountain lion event would almost be preferred to imprisonment, the latter does leave hope, tho. Terrible thoughts.
 
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