Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #22

[Cindizzi]

Lauren weighing in :

CLARIFICATION: @CBI_Colorado DID NOT participate in this production. CBI referred me to Chaffee County Sheriff's last statement: "Until we determine what happened to #SuzanneMorphew, we CAN'T DISCOUNT ANY SCENARIO or FORMALLY ELIMINATE ANYONE from suspicion.” #Justice4Suzanne

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1288594857087229953?s=21

 

[Fireflize]

They may have gotten that information from Barry himself, when was being recorded by the guy that posted the video on SM. I can't remember the guys name but didn't Barry tell him he had been ruled out?

You're right. BM told TD that he has been cleared. Moo

 

[MassGuy]

Really! Where do you see this?

Every single Colorado case I have followed that involved those agencies.

The silence, their posture, the warrants.

What they have done, and what they have not done.

A pattern of success, and behavior just like this.

My expectation that this is going to be a slog, and knowledge that a case like this isn’t typically solved in a few months.

 

[Fireflize]

Not necessarily. If that were the case, every time a major crime was committed in Smalltown USA, the sheriff or police chief would be recusing themself. However, if a strong POI is developed, and the Chief or lead investigator is a close, personal friend of the POI, they may step back in order to avoid implications of impropriety. If a chief knew that one of his investigators was close to a POI, he would likely order him off the investigation.

Sorta like not asking for fire department help. Moo

 

[Warwick7]

WHERE is this woman?! Have they, I hope, put her posters in surrounding states??

Nah

To find the abductor. How productive have these warrants been?

Ummm...the case isn't over yet.
The cogs of the mouse trap are extremely active...

 

[Tate123]

Except for the fact that MSM has never reported that BM has been cleared.

They aggregate a lot of web content ...newspapers, blogs, podcasts, and vlogs. It's not all MSM.

 

[TxGidget]

Ok, let’s say someone is leaning on the BM didn’t do it side. Both house search warrants do point at the house as the place where I would gather an attack took place BUT the attacker could have been someone visiting SM. Someone local, close to SM, that knows SM occasionally rides her bicycle and could have also planted the bike.
And let’s say that the search warrant at the construction site was a fluke. Maybe a neighbor, knowing BM worked at the site, suspecting him, also heard the noises the night before SM’s disappearance and called that tip in. Maybe authorities didn’t find anything. And we are left with the house and the rest of the evidence.
Of course, this is just me imagining another scenario.
MOO IMO

Regarding the slab dig. The recent comments by the neighbor reinforce my thought that the big-dig didn’t produce anything that links BM, or anything at all. I mean, why would BM, who lives in a relative solitude in an isolated home near acres of wilderness (and possessing his own heavy equipment) drive to a more densely populated “neighborhood” to conceal evidence. Not only that, but then he makes enough racket in the silent evening to wake the “deaf”. I’m not buying it. That site might have been a good concealment area for someone, but makes no sense for BM.

 

[Madeleine74]

Lauren weighing in :

CLARIFICATION: @CBI_Colorado DID NOT participate in this production. CBI referred me to Chaffee County Sheriff's last statement: "Until we determine what happened to #SuzanneMorphew, we CAN'T DISCOUNT ANY SCENARIO or FORMALLY ELIMINATE ANYONE from suspicion.” #Justice4Suzanne

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1288594857087229953?s=21

Well there ya go! People got their update from LE, although not in the way expected.

 

[Madeleine74]

My expectation that this is going to be a slog, and knowledge that a case like this isn’t typically solved in a few months.

It really won't surprise me if this is one of those cases that takes many, many months and possibly a year or more to get the next step.

IMO

 

[Warwick7]

CLARIFICATION: @CBI_Colorado DID NOT participate in this production. CBI referred me to Chaffee County Sheriff's last statement: "Until we determine what happened to #SuzanneMorphew, we CAN'T DISCOUNT ANY SCENARIO or FORMALLY ELIMINATE ANYONE from suspicion.” #Justice4Suzanne


https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1288594857087229953?s=21

BAM!!!

 

[Minordetails]

If I was an investigator (which I am not) searching for SM, I would have wanted permission to search her house regardless of any theories I had. I’d be looking for calendars, notes on the refrigerator, a diary, anything that might indicate when she was last present.

IMO there is nothing unique about the first SW and its authorization, that implicates BM.
The second SW... not easy to get according to the guys at Profiling Evil. What if BM said, “sure, go ahead search our house again,” ? Is it then easier for a judge to sign off on the second SW if the resident is a willing participant?

 

[Error505]

@Fireflize and @Error505, we have talked a lot about the need for probable cause to obtain a search warrant. When a judge accepts the affidavit and approves the warrant, he/she expects that you will be diligent in your search, that you will be thorough, that you will execute the warrant per it’s conditions i.e. you will limit your search as to what’s outlined in the warrant, that it will be done within its time constraints, etc
You can not go back to a judge and say that maybe you didn’t look hard enough or in the right places and you would like to give it a second try. You have to go back with a new pc affidavit with new compelling reasons as to why you should be allowed to search the same place a second time. There could be many reasons for the request, but they can’t be the same reasons. Perhaps a new witness has come forward providing information, perhaps lab results from the first search will warrant additional examination of the premises, LE may have received new video information. There has to be new information and it must be compelling.
You are constitutionally protected against unlawful search and seizure. As I stated in a previous post, these searches can not be fishing expeditions. Any judge worth his salt will insure there are valid, legal reasons why LE should be allowed a warrant to search a premises, property, or vehicle, that has been previously searched.
The fact that the second warrant was issued says to me that LE has uncovered new information. We do not know what it is, but it serves to convince us that LE remains committed to this case and determined to find out what happened to SM.
MOO

Thank you for the detailed response. I also had missed your earlier post.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Really! Where do you see this?

I just have to ask...
are you implying you believe the FBI and the CBI don't know what they're doing, as far as this investigation goes?

 

[Puzzles8]

Ok, let’s say someone is leaning on the BM didn’t do it side. Both house search warrants do point at the house as the place where I would gather an attack took place BUT the attacker could have been someone visiting SM. Someone local, close to SM, that knows SM occasionally rides her bicycle and could have also planted the bike.
And let’s say that the search warrant at the construction site was a fluke. Maybe a neighbor, knowing BM worked at the site, suspecting him, also heard the noises the night before SM’s disappearance and called that tip in. Maybe authorities didn’t find anything. And we are left with the house and the rest of the evidence.
Of course, this is just me imagining another scenario.
MOO IMO

And a good scenario. IMO, it does point to the fact LE suspects at least some part of the crime resulted in evidence left at their home.

Biking appears to be popular in that area. I'm wondering if any of the bike repair shops in the area are willing to make a house call?

I'm not convinced the search at the construction site was a fluke though.....

Just an idea to ponder.

JMO, MOO, etc.

 

[Seattle1]

Actually I do. I don’t see that I have missed any evidence that implies BM is not cooperating with LE. The people who don’t conjure a mishmash of a few facts and a ton of maybes into hard evidence of BM’s guilt also don’t hang a halo over his head. We just haven’t seen anything that unequivocally points in his direction. Some of us know him or of him to some degree. Some of us have dug into things that are off limits to discuss here and found a plethora of information that seems to point to a different perp- one that explains the entire family’s silence.

^^sbm

I think the question was about a partnership with LE and not cooperation-- which I don't think are necessarily the same. The Sheriff has already stated that BM is cooperating.

As to a evidence of a lacking partnership, I sensed BM was dissatisfied with LE when he was critical of the earliest efforts of the investigation on the date SM disappeared.

BM told YT blogger that the Sheriff allowed the search/investigative team to park along the roadway on Sunday --which ruined any potential footprints of an abductor.

BM alleged 10 people touched SM's bike taking it out of the ravine -- destroying fingerprint evidence, and critical that the bike was even moved.

BM announced an article located on the road, but LE would not tell him what they found. I certainly got the impression that BM was so dissatisfied with LE that he hired his own team -- led by the Army Ranger.

After SM was reported missing, the Sherriff announced her disappearance in a press release posted on the Chaffee County Sherriff's office website, and for the next few days, continued posting daily updates about the CCSO search efforts before giving his first live press conference. Notably, BM did not attend the presser.

To me, BM not attending the Sheriff's press conference was probably the biggest indicator of a lacking partnership between them-- especially when BM announced a very generous reward for the safe return of SM the very next day.

I can't imagine anything more important at that time then the presser for his missing wife where BM also missed a great opportunity to announce his generous, no questions asked reward for his wife's safe return.

Fast forward nearly 3 months and it's obvious that BM does not want to speak to the media. If BM's excuse for being a no-show at the presser because he did not want to speak to reporters, the Sheriff could have easily sheltered BM from the media stating he was not taking any questions and escorting him off the premise as we've seen many times before-- including for Cherryl Berreth (Kelsey's mother).

MOO

 

[gitana1]

@Fireflize and @Error505, we have talked a lot about the need for probable cause to obtain a search warrant. When a judge accepts the affidavit and approves the warrant, he/she expects that you will be diligent in your search, that you will be thorough, that you will execute the warrant per it’s conditions i.e. you will limit your search as to what’s outlined in the warrant, that it will be done within its time constraints, etc
You can not go back to a judge and say that maybe you didn’t look hard enough or in the right places and you would like to give it a second try. You have to go back with a new pc affidavit with new compelling reasons as to why you should be allowed to search the same place a second time. There could be many reasons for the request, but they can’t be the same reasons. Perhaps a new witness has come forward providing information, perhaps lab results from the first search will warrant additional examination of the premises, LE may have received new video information. There has to be new information and it must be compelling.
You are constitutionally protected against unlawful search and seizure. As I stated in a previous post, these searches can not be fishing expeditions. Any judge worth his salt will insure there are valid, legal reasons why LE should be allowed a warrant to search a premises, property, or vehicle, that has been previously searched.
The fact that the second warrant was issued says to me that LE has uncovered new information. We do not know what it is, but it serves to convince us that LE remains committed to this case and determined to find out what happened to SM.
MOO

Thank you much for this very informative post. Every word is accurate and it really illustrates the reality of this case.

I note that new facts that justified a second search in the Kelsey Berreth case were that the family found blood drops/smears by the toilet that hadn’t been spotted before.

That led to a second search where the house was torn apart and they found blood spatter and soaked blood in the floor boards.

 

[Sillybilly]

So they are not a legit MSM source?

Although not conventional MSM, Investigation Discovery is an approved site at WS. Members are free to interpret the content as they see fit.

 

[AllGrace]

WHERE is this woman?! Have they, I hope, put her posters in surrounding states??

Nah, I disagree!

This would typically be something family and friends would be spearheading and participating in. So this is something that I am sure BM is doing with his night and day efforts to locate SM.

 

[Gigi3]

Trying to catch up!

I just need to say... I LOVE Lauren Scharf for getting right on that ID response!

MOO

 

[Murphy1950]

I thought ID was a more of a investigative accurate kind of channel instead of going for the most juicy story.

Yeah...they said he wasn't "involved" in one breath and a few seconds later they segued into his job being searched. That's not possibly involved? One comment or the other doesn't compute as true. Well I do know they searched his jobsite for 3 days, so....

Barry was REPORTLEY in Denver. Suzanne was REPORTLEY on a bike ride. A neighbor REPORTLEY heard equipment. Lots of deep Investigation here. They didn't even verify the basic elements of the story much less investigate anything