Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #22

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  • #641
Wow thank you for posting this video...it’s much different than I envisioned. Very rustic...and big. I hope LE searched it including the cabins. I wonder how many cabins they have. I’m wondering how full it was and does LE literally go into every RV and the tents by the river? I must admit after watching that I get the concerns raised a little more. If someone(s) sketchy abducted someone and took them to the RV Park and held them there they have plenty of places to hide and have the privacy to do whatever. If a woman was screaming would you even hear it over the river? That shovel and old mine kinda gave me the creeps but the scenery is beautiful. Why does Rocky Mountain High always make me cry??! :(
I agree. It was much different than I had envisioned. I pictured a little RV park, tucked in the woods. For a short 3 minute video, it really shows the area well and how large it is.
I totally agree about the song!
 
  • #642
Wow thank you for posting this video...it’s much different than I envisioned. Very rustic...and big. I hope LE searched it including the cabins. I wonder how many cabins they have. I’m wondering how full it was and does LE literally go into every RV and the tents by the river? I must admit after watching that I get the concerns raised a little more. If someone(s) sketchy abducted someone and took them to the RV Park and held them there they have plenty of places to hide and have the privacy to do whatever. If a woman was screaming would you even hear it over the river? That shovel and old mine kinda gave me the creeps also the “sinners will feel right at home” sign... but the scenery is beautiful. Why does Rocky Mountain High always make me cry??! :( I think it made me feel sad for Suzanne that she probably won’t get to see it anymore.

Now that I’ve got John Denver in my head... As PE said the other day, we are back at the house. The searches didn’t get wider, or continue. LE seems to be narrowing their focus. If anything had led them to the RV park, I believe there would have been more activity there. Maybe there would have been also if they had no clues pointing them in a specific direction. When LE did the canvass, was the RV park included? I keep having to consider how the pandemic affected movement in the area. The way it looks with LE’s behavior-I know they don’t care about such things, but if they aren’t looking squarely at BM for this, they aren’t doing him any favors in the public eye.
 
  • #643
I agree. It was much different than I had envisioned. I pictured a little RV park, tucked in the woods. For a short 3 minute video, it really shows the area well and how large it is.
I totally agree about the song!
Me too! Had no idea is was that big and spread out. They must get so many people there passing through for a day or so. I hope LE locked that down right away and searched it well. Didn’t notice any outdoor cameras either but maybe they have them. I hope so. Now I’m going to have to break out the John Denver on iTunes! Sunshine on my Shoulders makes me happy. :D
 
  • #644
Now that I’ve got John Denver in my head... As PE said the other day, we are back at the house. The searches didn’t get wider, or continue. LE seems to be narrowing their focus. If anything had led them to the RV park, I believe there would have been more activity there. Maybe there would have been also if they had no clues pointing them in a specific direction. When LE did the canvass, was the RV park included? I keep having to consider how the pandemic affected movement in the area. The way it looks with LE’s behavior-I know they don’t care about such things, but if they aren’t looking squarely at BM for this, they aren’t doing him any favors in the public eye.
Totally agree. We love to RV camp, and this place looks like a great place to visit! It also looks like a place that would have documentation of each and every camper.

No doubt LE has thoroughly checked this out, IMO.
The fact that LE has been to the M house twice under sealed warrants leads me to believe that the RV park has been cleared. MOO
 
  • #645
Totally agree. We love to RV camp, and this place looks like a great place to visit! It also looks like a place that would have documentation of each and every camper.

No doubt LE has thoroughly checked this out, IMO.
The fact that LE has been to the M house twice under sealed warrants leads me to believe that the RV park has been cleared. MOO
I could see myself staying there as well. I agree that LE thoroughly checked it out. Due to Covid restrictions, I wonder how many campers/RVs were there. I wouldn’t think very many. I wonder if a camper saw or heard something. MOO
 
  • #646
I could see myself staying there as well. I agree that LE thoroughly checked it out. Due to Covid restrictions, I wonder how many campers/RVs were there. I wouldn’t think very many. I wonder if a camper saw or heard something. MOO
I was thinking the same about the number of campers during covid. Let’s hope a camper saw/heard something and was able to provide LE with some information.

Perhaps, this is what turned their attention so quickly to BM in the very beginning?

MOO
 
  • #647
I was thinking the same about the number of campers during covid. Let’s hope a camper saw/heard something and was able to provide LE with some information.

Perhaps, this is what turned their attention so quickly to BM in the very beginning?

MOO
Exactly! This is what I’m thinking. MOO
 
  • #648
I was thinking the same about the number of campers during covid. Let’s hope a camper saw/heard something and was able to provide LE with some information.

Perhaps, this is what turned their attention so quickly to BM in the very beginning?

MOO
I also wonder if the owners of the RV park live on the property and could have seen or heard something. MOO
 
  • #649
I also wonder if the owners of the RV park live on the property and could have seen or heard something. MOO
We are on the same wavelength LOL

I think it’s quite possible the owners/caretakers remain on the property, IMO. It would be interesting to know.
 
  • #650
TD reported that he uncovered that SM was no longer a customer of a bike shop he visited. Said shop offered that Scot is her mechanic now. <modsnip: sleuthing Scot is not allowed> Normally you take your bike to the shop....where all the tools and parts are.
He has everything he needs at his own shop, one would presume. You don't repair bikes without the tools necessary.
 
  • #651

This is an early interview with some RV park residents. A little insight into the colorful characters. They seem like nice folks.
Totally agree. We love to RV camp, and this place looks like a great place to visit! It also looks like a place that would have documentation of each and every camper.

No doubt LE has thoroughly checked this out, IMO.
The fact that LE has been to the M house twice under sealed warrants leads me to believe that the RV park has been cleared. MOO
Agree. RV parks with hosts are not places people can just anonymously park. Comings and goings are noted even if there is no camera, which I think likely there is/was a camera.
 
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This is an early interview with some RV park residents. A little insight into the colorful characters. They seem like nice folks.
This was uploaded on 5/13, don't know when it was first recorded. Wonder if anyone close to the case saw it.
 
  • #654
Patrick Frazee literally had a camera in his face, and he didn’t care.

Chris Watts apparently had no idea that his neighbor’s camera captured his driveway.

In this situation, I think BM knew that the spot he dumped the bike, was out of camera range. But he still had to travel to that spot, which may have put him in range of a camera.

That, or his vehicle was spotted when he should have been somewhere else, and it destroyed his alibi.

It could of course be none of these things, but I do think whatever it is that pointed his way, was equally compelling.

Chris watts did know the neighbor had a camera on that spot. He only thought he could beat that with driving his car back into the garage and loading up the bodies so it could not been seen. He did not have time to finish his narrative because of shannan her friend intervening.

Maybe BM knew also but he thought he could get arround it too. Or he forgot in the heat of the moment. Jmo
 
  • #655
The cost of motor homes, some trailers and some 5th wheels can be quite expensive. (like over $75K and upwards of $250K or more).

IMO
You bet they can! However, I've seen some nice ones in much lower price ranges too. Actually, I want one! ;)lol.
 
  • #656
Ita.
There is one person who should really know when she was last seen.
There's no excuse.
None.
Imo.


bbm
This ^^^^
The focus has never been outwards.
Not my opinion but a fact.

What areas have been investigated more than once ?
Primarily, the Morphew home and the dig site .
If we focus on the facts it's obvious where the investigation has led thus far.
Anxiously waiting for an update...

Respectfully, how can you state that anything is a fact when we have no idea what angle LE is pursuing? We only have tidbits from which we firm opinion.

Additionally, everyone is so jacked up about the second SW for the house. If SM was abducted from or if there is evidence that she was injured or killed there, it would be a crime scene. It is not out of the question that as more evidence was compiled they might need access again. And that doesn’t necessarily point toward any specific perp as a home invasion may have occurred or it could have been someone that lived there or had prior access or was familiar with the house. Employee, extended family member, repair person, friend, nephew or someone paid to cause harm or get even somehow.... none of us know.
 
  • #657
Sure, if Lauren actually gets Scot to say where the service occurred. Was it still at his garage, as it was in 2018?

Bike repair guy could have fixed her bike anywhere - but apparently not at a storefront (according to TD who said Scot was known to work from his garage). Is it an actual legal business or is Scot a friend? Is it clear yet?

Because if I get a part for my bike and have "Scot" fix it, it doesn't mean that I hired a repairman, I may just know someone who is handy with bikes.

It's good that Lauren got Scot to say he saw Suzanne on Thursday. I now wonder if that was the info that LE used when they said she was seen later than supposed - was the prior date Wednesday?

That would account for the choice of dates for the security video request. LE may have had evidence of someone seeing Suzanne on Wednesday, and then Scot saw her on Thursday - later than they first assumed.

<modsnip>
When I first heard “from his garage” I formed a vision. A garage in suburbia is much different than garages on acreage. Many large businesses are run from garages.
 
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  • #658
Interesting Point made in latest Profiling Evil Video. Lauren Scharf asks these former LE how hard is it to get a second search warrant for Morphew home which had been searched for 2 weeks just 41 days prior to 2nd search
Mike King: “They had to have had something really powerful to allow a judge to say Yes, we’re going to allow you to go back in and do more...!
24:10 mark when this discussion takes place!
ETA MOO I believe strong physical evidence was found in the home during first search. I also remember the mobile Crime Lab was sent to the home during the search, indicative of crucial evidence being found (or so it was in the Stauch case).


I wonder if it would be hard to get if the owner of the property was agreeable. I get that a judge may need to sign off regardless but if the situation between owner and LE is a partnership to solve a mystery, perhaps a signed authorization to search presented to a judge results in an automatic approval.
 
  • #659
I wonder if it would be hard to get if the owner of the property was agreeable. I get that a judge may need to sign off regardless but if the situation between owner and LE is a partnership to solve a mystery, perhaps a signed authorization to search presented to a judge results in an automatic approval.
From all that you have read or heard about this case do you believe that LE and BM are in a partnership to find Suzanne? I'm not saying that it is impossible, just that I haven't seen that kind of relationship demonstrated. Maybe I've missed something that is clear to you.
 
  • #660
From all that you have read or heard about this case do you believe that LE and BM are in a partnership to find Suzanne? I'm not saying that it is impossible, just that I haven't seen that kind of relationship demonstrated. Maybe I've missed something that is clear to you.
Actually I do. I don’t see that I have missed any evidence that implies BM is not cooperating with LE. The people who don’t conjure a mishmash of a few facts and a ton of maybes into hard evidence of BM’s guilt also don’t hang a halo over his head. We just haven’t seen anything that unequivocally points in his direction. Some of us know him or of him to some degree. Some of us have dug into things that are off limits to discuss here and found a plethora of information that seems to point to a different perp- one that explains the entire family’s silence.


Do I see speculation that he’s not? Yes. (any page of any thread here has that)

Do I see people combining the few facts we do have with speculation and a sprinkling of twisting facts and assuming he’s not? Yes. Then it suddenly becomes something people cite to support his guilt. (Someone here stated without any supporting evidence that he might run off to Mexico, for example a few threads back. That turned into LE probably having confiscated his passport- that evolved into something that some assumed as fact)

Do I see LE being deliberately obtuse when discussing the case and answering questions? Yes. (We hope he continues to cooperate.... Nobody has been ruled out)

Do I see people, in their analysis of reporting by LS parsing her words and contorting them to spin them into what they want to hear? Yes. (Someone stated that since LS reported that the bike repairman only worked on her bike and didn’t say he fixed it, it must have still been broken. Within hours hours that became a cited fact here. Meanwhile nobody acknowledges that bikes that are ridden regularly and on rough terrain need regular maintenance just like cars do- perhaps the bike wasn’t broken- it was just maintenanced)

Confirmation bias is a real thing that colors the way we look at our world. It distorts details so they fit in the box we have created. This particular discussion is a sociological/psychological study in that phenomenon.

I look forward to the time we receive some hard factual information not only because it will bring us closer to the truth, but also to see how that gets distorted to fit entrenched narratives as well. It’s fascinating.
 
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