Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #22

[skyvoyager]

Do I see people, in their analysis of reporting by LS parsing her words and contorting them to spin them into what they want to hear? Yes. (Someone stated that since LS reported that the bike repairman only worked on her bike and didn’t say he fixed it, it must have still been broken. Within hours hours that became a cited fact here. Meanwhile nobody acknowledges that bikes that are ridden regularly and on rough terrain need regular maintenance just like cars do- perhaps the bike wasn’t broken- it was just maintenanced)

Confirmation bias is a real thing that colors the way we look at our world. It distorts details so they fit in the box we have created. This particular discussion is a sociological/psychological study in that phenomenon.

I look forward to the time we receive some hard factual information not only because it will bring us closer to the truth, but also to see how that gets distorted to fit entrenched narratives as well. It’s fascinating.

very well put.... much better than my sarcastic approach ;-)

 

[Madeleine74]

I look forward to the time we receive some hard factual information not only because it will bring us closer to the truth, but also to see how that gets distorted to fit entrenched narratives as well. It’s fascinating.

I'm not sure when the tide turned in general, but it seems like it's a negative thing to wait 'n see what the evidence is and what it shows. Why the need to decide before any legal document has been released? Asking to see evidence and wanting to evaluate evidence is (IMO) a good way to proceed in any criminal case.

 

[IronOreBetty]

very well put.... much better than my sarcastic approach ;-)

It was hard. I edited several times because I feel that defending a pragmatic, fact based approach to accusing a man of murdering his wife of 26 years should not be necessary- but it is here.
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[Tate123]

Actually I do. I don’t see that I have missed any evidence that implies BM is not cooperating with LE. The people who don’t conjure a mishmash of a few facts and a ton of maybes into hard evidence of BM’s guilt also don’t hang a halo over his head. We just haven’t seen anything that unequivocally points in his direction. Some of us know him or of him to some degree. Some of us have dug into things that are off limits to discuss here and found a plethora of information that seems to point to a different perp- one that explains the entire family’s silence.


Do I see speculation that he’s not? Yes. (any page of any thread here has that)

Do I see people combining the few facts we do have with speculation and a sprinkling of twisting facts and assuming he’s not? Yes. Then it suddenly becomes something people cite to support his guilt. (Someone here stated without any supporting evidence that he might run off to Mexico, for example a few threads back. That turned into LE probably having confiscated his passport- that evolved into something that some assumed as fact)

Do I see LE being deliberately obtuse when discussing the case and answering questions? Yes. (We hope he continues to cooperate.... Nobody has been ruled out)

Do I see people, in their analysis of reporting by LS parsing her words and contorting them to spin them into what they want to hear? Yes. (Someone stated that since LS reported that the bike repairman only worked on her bike and didn’t say he fixed it, it must have still been broken. Within hours hours that became a cited fact here. Meanwhile nobody acknowledges that bikes that are ridden regularly and on rough terrain need regular maintenance just like cars do- perhaps the bike wasn’t broken- it was just maintenanced)

Confirmation bias is a real thing that colors the way we look at our world. It distorts details so they fit in the box we have created. This particular discussion is a sociological/psychological study in that phenomenon.

I look forward to the time we receive some hard factual information not only because it will bring us closer to the truth, but also to see how that gets distorted to fit entrenched narratives as well. It’s fascinating.

None of what you have stated demonstrates that LE and BM are working together. I understand that you don't approve of the way BM is being portrayed here on WS (a missing persons discussion group). From my perspective I see more of an adversarial relationship and was looking for clarity since you see it differently and are from the area. Here are a few of the things that bother me.

• BM was not standing with LE at the press conference.
• The Sheriffs comment we hope he continues to cooperate.
• BM disparaging the work of LE to TD.
• The reward not being offered by LE.

Just trying to make more sense of it all.

 

[IronOreBetty]

None of what you have stated demonstrates that LE and BM are working together. I understand that you don't approve of the way BM is being portrayed here on WS (a missing persons discussion group). From my perspective I see more of an adversarial relationship and was looking for clarity since you see it differently and are from the area. Here are a few of the things that bother me.

• BM was not standing with LE at the press conference.
• The Sheriffs comment we hope he continues to cooperate.
• BM disparaging the work of LE to TD.
• The reward not being offered by LE.

Just trying to make more sense of it all.

<modsnip> You are making my case for confirmation bias.

What if BM believes he knows who did this and LE is not acting quickly enough?

 

[Tate123]

Whatever. You are making my case for confirmation bias.

What if BM believes he knows who did this and LE is not acting quickly enough?

Because I said these things bother me? Okay then.

 

[DizzyB]

I feel like I know which way the wind is blowing, but if they change direction, I’ll hop on board and follow that. There are few concrete facts and the rest is people’s conclusions based on information out there. No rights or wrongs at this point, just opinions.

Suzanne is missing. Neighbor called the authorities before 6 on Mother’s Day. TN spoke to the press and set up some accounts. BM made a plea for Suzanne’s safe return. LE asked for the public’s assistance, did searches and executed search warrants. Anything else that’s a fact?

 

[TxGidget]

This is an early interview with some RV park residents. A little insight into the colorful characters. They seem like nice folks.

Thank you for posting. I had forgotten about
this clip. Very interesting that the top concern to the locals were the mountain lions.

 

[Murphy1950]

I feel like I know which way the wind is blowing, but if they change direction, I’ll hop on board and follow that. There are few concrete facts and the rest is people’s conclusions based on information out there. No rights or wrongs at this point, just opinions.

Suzanne is missing. Neighbor called the authorities before 6 on Mother’s Day. TN spoke to the press and set up some accounts. BM made a plea for Suzanne’s safe return. LE asked for the public’s assistance, did searches and executed search warrants. Anything else that’s a fact?

Admittedly, I'm just as influenced by the unseen. If someone told me they ate 10,ooo calories a meal and were rail thin, I'd think there's something wrong with this picture. The "Too Soon" coupled with the fact that LE refuses to acknowledge the dreaded bike on any level, tells me there is something more to that part of the story. The bike especially 'if planted" does provide the perfect foil for many possibilities as to why Suzanne is missing.

 

[Willowwood26]

Whatever. You are making my case for confirmation bias.

What if BM believes he knows who did this and LE is not acting quickly enough?

Tate123, imo, was asking to be enlightened on your point of view. Your response was extremely articulate and opened my eyes to other possibilities. You seem to have more insight than we do to this particular situation and I would love to have a fraction of that knowledge, but I am at loss on your digging capabilities, or your proximity to the area. I still cannot fathom why there is so much evil in this world a beautiful soul would be taken in such a cruel way, (If that is what happened) but it happens time and time again. With all due respect, to reply initially with “Whatever” closes off all communication, and is confirmation bias in reverse. I am sincerely trying to understand this different side to the coin that you bring up, and IMO, others, including Tate123 are too. Not to argue points, that gets old and tiring, but to understand different points of view. My belief is based on what is presented here and the considerate websluthers that have shared their knowledge and experiences. I would really like to understand the other side of the coin, other possibilities, especially in regards to your statement about a different perp and this families silence.

 

[IronOreBetty]

Tate123, imo, was asking to be enlightened on your point of view. Your response was extremely articulate and opened my eyes to other possibilities. You seem to have more insight than we do to this particular situation and I would love to have a fraction of that knowledge, but I am at loss on your digging capabilities, or your proximity to the area. I still cannot fathom why there is so much evil in this world a beautiful soul would be taken in such a cruel way, (If that is what happened) but it happens time and time again. With all due respect, to reply initially with “Whatever” closes off all communication, and is confirmation bias in reverse. I am sincerely trying to understand this different side to the coin that you bring up, and IMO, others, including Tate123 are too. Not to argue points, that gets old and tiring, but to understand different points of view. My belief is based on what is presented here and the considerate websluthers that have shared their knowledge and experiences. I would really like to understand the other side of the coin, other possibilities, especially in regards to your statement about a different perp and this families silence.

From what I understand, that discussion is not allowed here but it is easy to find with some internet searches. I see many others here alluding to the same information I have found and the things we do know seem to support an investigation in that direction.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Actually I do. I don’t see that I have missed any evidence that implies BM is not cooperating with LE. The people who don’t conjure a mishmash of a few facts and a ton of maybes into hard evidence of BM’s guilt also don’t hang a halo over his head. We just haven’t seen anything that unequivocally points in his direction. Some of us know him or of him to some degree. Some of us have dug into things that are off limits to discuss here and found a plethora of information that seems to point to a different perp- one that explains the entire family’s silence.

RS&BBM

I don't know about anyone else, but I'd sure like to hear more about this.

 

[lamlawindy]

None of what you have stated demonstrates that LE and BM are working together. I understand that you don't approve of the way BM is being portrayed here on WS (a missing persons discussion group). From my perspective I see more of an adversarial relationship and was looking for clarity since you see it differently and are from the area. Here are a few of the things that bother me.

• BM was not standing with LE at the press conference.
• The Sheriffs comment we hope he continues to cooperate.
• BM disparaging the work of LE to TD.
• The reward not being offered by LE.

Just trying to make more sense of it all.

I can certainly see why the four items you mentioned bother you, particularly when one sees them all at the same time. At a minimum, they do indeed appear odd. That being said, there may be mundane explanations for all of them:

1. Barry may not have been invited to stand with police at the press conference and did not feel it appropriate to "barge in" to stand with them.

2. The Sheriff genuinely hopes that Barry will not close himself off from the investigation due to Barry believing that the investigators are incompetent or that they are unfairly looking at him as having caused Suzanne's disappearance.

3. Barry genuinely believes that investigators are doing a poor job, either because he thinks they are targeting him or because they are ignoring alternative theories of Suzanne's disappearance.

4. Police are not offering a reward because (a) they know that a $200K reward is already being offered by the Morphew family and/or (b) budgets -- particularly now due to the coronavirus -- do not provide extra money and/or (c) they do not believe that a financial reward will provide an incentive to a witness to come forward and/or (d) a combination of all of the above.

Despite these possible explanations, I totally get why you may not be convinced that something shady isn't occurring, though.

 

[GordianKnot]

What if BM believes he knows who did this and LE is not acting quickly enough?

BBM:

Sure!

Because nothing screams sense of urgency like declaring, "It's too soon."

Clearly, the man is beyond eager to have SM located as soon as possible, as evidenced by the speed with which we saw the following actions:

• Gimme campaign up and running.
• Guardianship papers filed in Indiana.
• Indiana real estate sale completed.
• Land purchase in Colorado.

The fact that precisely none of those actions in any way helps to locate his missing wife, notwithstanding.

Priorities.

JMO.

 

[Poedelini]

BBM:

Sure!

Because nothing screams sense of urgency like telling the public, "It's too soon."

Clearly, the man is beyond eager to have SM located as soon as possible, as evidenced by the speed with which we saw the following actions:

• Gimme campaign up and running.
• Guardianship papers filed in Indiana.
• Indiana real estate sale completed.
• Land purchase in Colorado.

The fact that precisely none of those actions in any way help to locate his missing wife, notwithstanding.

Priorities.

JMO.

You really hit the jackpot with this post. Jmo

 

[EggSalad]

Whatever. You are making my case for confirmation bias.

What if BM believes he knows who did this and LE is not acting quickly enough?

The difference is that she posted the facts that are happening.

You’re posting a what if scenario that is not backed by any known factual information.

 

[EggSalad]

I don’t recall that either! I would love a link because if that bike was truly needing repair, surely she wouldn’t have ridden it that day?

JMO

just some food for thought regarding biking so that we don’t get too locked in to the bike not being rideable (although I think that is highly possible)

-Many serious bikers own more than 1 bike
-There is a lot of work that a service shop does that doesn’t mean a bike isn’t rideable. Some of that includes: New Tires, Upgraded parts (fork, gearing, stem, handlebars, wheels, cranks, pedals etc...) , tune up

The good thing is that LE should know all this info by now but we don’t.

What is pretty compelling to me is that the bike shop and restaurant speculative info os beginning to build a solid timeline which also aligns with LE’s request to save camera footage from Aug 8-12. (iirc those dates correctly).

I think the Aug 11-12 footage request is fascinating.

And I’d imagine that even if a home/business owner wasn’t able to store the footage, the provider company most likely has it since its all cloud based.

 

[Poedelini]

RS&BBM

I don't know about anyone else, but I'd sure like to hear more about this.

I love to hear about it too. Im certainly leaning very heavily in one direction, but im still open for other possibility's.

 

[Boxer]

Thank you for posting. I had forgotten about
this clip. Very interesting that the top concern to the locals were the mountain lions.

Most would wish Suzanne the best, if she has to be lost, to be lost to a cat not a human.
Coming up on a cat on a mountain bike is definitely a concern. MOO it took a few days to eliminate the possibility.

 

[Warwick7]

Admittedly, I'm just as influenced by the unseen. If someone told me they ate 10,ooo calories a meal and were rail thin, I'd think there's something wrong with this picture. The "Too Soon" coupled with the fact that LE refuses to acknowledge the dreaded bike on any level, tells me there is something more to that part of the story. The bike especially 'if planted" does provide the perfect foil for many possibilities as to why Suzanne is missing.

Yup!