Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #22

[Ontario Mom]

I love to hear about it too. Im certainly leaning very heavily in one direction, but im still open for other possibility's.

I guess if I had to say I'm leaning in any direction, it's that BM appears to be sending up all sorts of red flags since day 1.
That being said, I do believe it's entirely possible someone else is the one who disappeared SM, and BM is just the kind of guy that sends up red flags.
We all know people like this, and (as far as we know?) they haven't killed anyone, they're just sketchy.
That, coupled with what the CCSO has said & done and just as importantly hasn't said and done, give us all very good reason to lean in that direction.
And at the end of the day I still have that little "but what if..." voice in the back of my head.
If there's a "plethora" of info out there, I'm sure the CCSO and the MSM are already aware of it but... silence.
I find this strange. And maddening, and I just want SM to be found, so her girls can say their proper goodbyes.

 

[Warwick7]

Admittedly, I'm just as influenced by the unseen. If someone told me they ate 10,ooo calories a meal and were rail thin, I'd think there's something wrong with this picture. The "Too Soon" coupled with the fact that LE refuses to acknowledge the dreaded bike on any level, tells me there is something more to that part of the story. The bike especially 'if planted" does provide the perfect foil for many possibilities as to why Suzanne is missing.

Yup!

BBM:

Sure!

Because nothing screams sense of urgency like declaring, "It's too soon."

Clearly, the man is beyond eager to have SM located as soon as possible, as evidenced by the speed with which we saw the following actions:

• Gimme campaign up and running.
• Guardianship papers filed in Indiana.
• Indiana real estate sale completed.
• Land purchase in Colorado.

The fact that precisely none of those actions in any way helps to locate his missing wife, notwithstanding.

Priorities.

JMO.

Bam!

 

[Madeleine74]

If someone told me they ate 10,ooo calories a meal and were rail thin, I'd think there's something wrong with this picture.

I would be very curious and wonder if:

- the person had no idea what 10,000 calories really consists of and was mistaken or was making a hyperbolic statement or
- the person was actually consuming many excessive calories a day but had a medical issue (thyroid or something) and/or
- the person was into a sport at a level that required many calories (e.g. Michael Phelps, Olympic swimmer, consumed 12K calories/day in training, but not 10K per meal).

 

[Poedelini]

I guess if I had to say I'm leaning in any direction, it's that BM appears to be sending up all sorts of red flags since day 1.
That being said, I do believe it's entirely possible someone else is the one who disappeared SM, and BM is just the kind of guy that sends up red flags.
We all know people like this, and (as far as we know?) they haven't killed anyone, they're just sketchy.
That, coupled with what the CCSO has said & done and just as importantly hasn't said and done, give us all very good reason to lean in that direction.
And at the end of the day I still have that little "but what if..." voice in the back of my head.
If there's a "plethora" of info out there, I'm sure the CCSO and the MSM are already aware of it but... silence.
I find this strange. And maddening, and I just want SM to be found, so her girls can say their proper goodbyes.

Good post and i fully agree. I hope suzanne will be found sooner than later and she gets the justice she deserves.

 

[IronOreBetty]

BBM:

Sure!

Because nothing screams sense of urgency like declaring, "It's too soon."

Clearly, the man is beyond eager to have SM located as soon as possible, as evidenced by the speed with which we saw the following actions:

• Gimme campaign up and running.
• Guardianship papers filed in Indiana.
• Indiana real estate sale completed.
• Land purchase in Colorado.

The fact that precisely none of those actions in any way helps to locate his missing wife, notwithstanding.

Priorities.

JMO.

Except if BM had an idea who did this and was hoping that someone he suspected was really not capable of hurting Suzanne.

Regarding fundraising we don’t know that BM was involved in setting that up. Some assume it but I know of several campaigns that were started by people who thought they were helping. People assume TN quit on BM. Maybe BM told him to back off because he never invited him to be involved.

The guardianship? We’ve beaten that to death. If they had a contract to close, he had no choice but to follow through or face legal consequences. Clearly a judge agreed.

Regarding the other property- what do we actually know about this versus assume?

 

[Gigi3]

I guess if I had to say I'm leaning in any direction, it's that BM appears to be sending up all sorts of red flags since day 1.
That being said, I do believe it's entirely possible someone else is the one who disappeared SM, and BM is just the kind of guy that sends up red flags.
We all know people like this, and (as far as we know?) they haven't killed anyone, they're just sketchy.
That, coupled with what the CCSO has said & done and just as importantly hasn't said and done, give us all very good reason to lean in that direction.
And at the end of the day I still have that little "but what if..." voice in the back of my head.
If there's a "plethora" of info out there, I'm sure the CCSO and the MSM are already aware of it but... silence.
I find this strange. And maddening, and I just want SM to be found, so her girls can say their proper goodbyes.

Good post! And if others are aware of this “plethora” of information, then I can guarantee that LE is also.

I alluded in a post last night, that one of the theories I’ve seen posited, is that someone from Indiana could be responsible for SM’s disappearance. This narrative has been pushed by some of BM’s “close” friends.

While anything is still possible, IMO, this is coming from social media, and LE’s actions have not coincided with this particular theory.

IF, LE decides to shift focus toward someone in Indiana, then I will definitely consider this possibility. As of now, I think it’s just social media rumors because I haven’t seen any indication that this person is involved.

We are ALL speculating without evidence. The only thing we have is LE’s actions to draw our assumptions. To consider someone from Indiana as a POI without any facts, except social media fodder, is unfounded at this point.

JMO

 

[Murphy1950]

I would be very curious and wonder if:

- the person had no idea what 10,000 calories really consists of and was mistaken or was making a hyperbolic statement or
- the person was actually consuming many excessive calories a day but had a medical issue (thyroid or something) and/or
- the person was into a sport at a level that required many calories (e.g. Michael Phelps, Olympic swimmer, consumed 12K calories/day in training, but not 10K per meal).

If the implication is I wouldn’t be curious, of course I would, and I’d be asking/thinking the same things, that’s what sleuths do. Doesn’t change my comment…that there is something wrong with this picture…which is why you are asking the questions, no?

 

[Madeleine74]

If the implication is I wouldn’t be curious, of course I would, and I’d be asking/thinking the same things, that’s what sleuths do. Doesn’t change my comment…that there is something wrong with this picture…which is why you are asking the questions, no?

There is no implication intended at all. It just got me thinking and I wrote down the things that came to my mind. Sometimes a cigar is really just a cigar.

 

[Janeumayer]

FBI Joins Search to Find Missing Colorado Woman, Family Offers $200,000 Reward

Old article. Found this bit regarding TN very interesting...

“Spezze also said that Morphew’s husband was reportedly out of town in Denver when Morphew went missing but declined to say whether he is actively cooperating with the investigation. Similarly, authorities did not disclose whether Morphew’s nephew, Trevor Noel is cooperating with the investigation.“

BBM

 

[Warwick7]

Actually I do. I don’t see that I have missed any evidence that implies BM is not cooperating with LE. The people who don’t conjure a mishmash of a few facts and a ton of maybes into hard evidence of BM’s guilt also don’t hang a halo over his head. We just haven’t seen anything that unequivocally points in his direction. Some of us know him or of him to some degree. Some of us have dug into things that are off limits to discuss here and found a plethora of information that seems to point to a different perp- one that explains the entire family’s silence.


Do I see speculation that he’s not? Yes. (any page of any thread here has that)

Do I see people combining the few facts we do have with speculation and a sprinkling of twisting facts and assuming he’s not? Yes. Then it suddenly becomes something people cite to support his guilt. (Someone here stated without any supporting evidence that he might run off to Mexico, for example a few threads back. That turned into LE probably having confiscated his passport- that evolved into something that some assumed as fact)

Do I see LE being deliberately obtuse when discussing the case and answering questions? Yes. (We hope he continues to cooperate.... Nobody has been ruled out)

Do I see people, in their analysis of reporting by LS parsing her words and contorting them to spin them into what they want to hear? Yes. (Someone stated that since LS reported that the bike repairman only worked on her bike and didn’t say he fixed it, it must have still been broken. Within hours hours that became a cited fact here. Meanwhile nobody acknowledges that bikes that are ridden regularly and on rough terrain need regular maintenance just like cars do- perhaps the bike wasn’t broken- it was just maintenanced)

Confirmation bias is a real thing that colors the way we look at our world. It distorts details so they fit in the box we have created. This particular discussion is a sociological/psychological study in that phenomenon.

I look forward to the time we receive some hard factual information not only because it will bring us closer to the truth, but also to see how that gets distorted to fit entrenched narratives as well. It’s fascinating.

Fact:

"And until we determine what happened to Suzanne, we can't discount any scenario or formally eliminate anyone from suspicion."

2 months after Suzanne Morphew’s disappearance, investigators not ‘formally eliminating anyone from suspicion’

 

[Error505]

I can certainly see why the four items you mentioned bother you, particularly when one sees them all at the same time. At a minimum, they do indeed appear odd. That being said, there may be mundane explanations for all of them:
Snipped By Me:
4. Police are not offering a reward because (a) they know that a $200K reward is already being offered by the Morphew family and/or (b) budgets -- particularly now due to the coronavirus -- do not provide extra money and/or (c) they do not believe that a financial reward will provide an incentive to a witness to come forward and/or (d) a combination of all of the above.
Despite these possible explanations, I totally get why you may not be convinced that something shady isn't occurring, though.

Or Police have evidence SM is no longer alive and no reason to offer a reward bc they have evidence pointing to POI, and they’re in the process of formulating their case.

 

[LietKynes]

Good post! And if others are aware of this “plethora” of information, then I can guarantee that LE is also.

I alluded in a post last night, that one of the theories I’ve seen posited, is that someone from Indiana could be responsible for SM’s disappearance. This narrative has been pushed by some of BM’s “close” friends.

While anything is still possible, IMO, this is coming from social media, and LE’s actions have not coincided with this particular theory.

IF, LE decides to shift focus toward someone in Indiana, then I will definitely consider this possibility. As of now, I think it’s just social media rumors because I haven’t seen any indication that this person is involved.

We are ALL speculating without evidence. The only thing we have is LE’s actions to draw our assumptions. To consider someone from Indiana as a POI without any facts, except social media fodder, is unfounded at this point.

JMO

bbm
Agreed.
And possibly BM's relatives as well ?
The TD video person said that BM's mother was with him the day of the interview, moving the truck and making it hard for TD to hear.
So is this woman also the author of the email sent to the church ?
"...Barry is beside himself..."
Imo.

 

[LietKynes]

Or Police have evidence SM is no longer alive and no reason to offer a reward bc they have evidence pointing to POI, and they’re in the process of formulating their case.

THIS ^^^^^

 

[GordianKnot]

I guess if I had to say I'm leaning in any direction, it's that BM appears to be sending up all sorts of red flags since day 1.
That being said, I do believe it's entirely possible someone else is the one who disappeared SM, and BM is just the kind of guy that sends up red flags.
We all know people like this, and (as far as we know?) they haven't killed anyone, they're just sketchy.
That, coupled with what the CCSO has said & done and just as importantly hasn't said and done, give us all very good reason to lean in that direction.
And at the end of the day I still have that little "but what if..." voice in the back of my head.
If there's a "plethora" of info out there, I'm sure the CCSO and the MSM are already aware of it but... silence.
I find this strange. And maddening, and I just want SM to be found, so her girls can say their proper goodbyes.

BBM:

I'm not LE, and even I was seeing red flags immediately in this case, and by immediately, I mean, the very first time I read about it.

I went back to read my first few posts way back on Thread #1, and here's some of what i noted initially:

Questions I have:

• When was the last verified independent sighting of SM?
• Where was her husband last weekend?
• What's her current marital status, i.e, married, separated, living together or separately, etc.?
• Was SM's cell phone found at the home or not?"

Any time there's a whiff of money around a case, I get concerned.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil."

Taken individually, the facts surrounding SM's disappearance don't in and of themselves signal foul play. Taken collectively, the facts are extremely concerning.

I'm seeing red flags littered all over the field on this one.

And at this point, I'm wondering whether or not anyone at all observed her out riding her bike on Sunday.

Has LE stated they have footage or eyewitness accounts of her leaving the house or anywhere out on a ride that day?

It would be relatively easy for someone to drive out to a remote location and toss her bike off a trail or side of the road in an effort to misdirect investigators.

I'm not assuming a Sunday bike ride ever occurred.
_____________

Many of us recognized that this case was terribly, terribly "off" from the very beginning, even before we had seen or heard anything from BM.
Before BM released that 27-second video.
Before TD published the YT video of his utterly damning conversation with BM.
Before LE executed multiple search warrants of the home.
Before the FBI went to dig up concrete at one of BM's job sites.

Nothing we have seen or heard from LE indicates they think a stranger abducted her.
Nothing we have seen or heard from LE indicates they think SM disappeared herself.
Nothing we have seen or heard from LE indicates they think a mountain lion snatched her.

There is, however, another scenario that appears to make a whole lot of sense given LE's behavior.

JMO.

 

[LietKynes]

FBI Joins Search to Find Missing Colorado Woman, Family Offers $200,000 Reward

Old article. Found this bit regarding TN very interesting...

“Spezze also said that Morphew’s husband was reportedly out of town in Denver when Morphew went missing but declined to say whether he is actively cooperating with the investigation. Similarly, authorities did not disclose whether Morphew’s nephew, Trevor Noel is cooperating with the investigation.“

BBM

Thanks for this find, @Janeumayer !!
Agreed, very interesting.
I found it somewhat strange that TN referred to the eldest daughter for questions regarding the crowd funding; in his most recent statement.
Hardly 'protecting' the daughters.
Smh.
Imo.

 

[Madeleine74]

Or Police have evidence SM is no longer alive and no reason to offer a reward bc they have evidence pointing to POI, and they’re in the process of formulating their case.

Just an FYI, in this case the police have not offered a reward and it's less common for them to do so. The reward in SM's case has been offered and funded by private citizens, but it's only for SM's "safe return," and I think that was worded that way so the "reward" would never actually be paid out to anyone because the victim can never be "safely returned."

IMO

 

[OldCop]

Good post! And if others are aware of this “plethora” of information, then I can guarantee that LE is also.

I alluded in a post last night, that one of the theories I’ve seen posited, is that someone from Indiana could be responsible for SM’s disappearance. This narrative has been pushed by some of BM’s “close” friends.

While anything is still possible, IMO, this is coming from social media, and LE’s actions have not coincided with this particular theory.

IF, LE decides to shift focus toward someone in Indiana, then I will definitely consider this possibility. As of now, I think it’s just social media rumors because I haven’t seen any indication that this person is involved.

We are ALL speculating without evidence. The only thing we have is LE’s actions to draw our assumptions. To consider someone from Indiana as a POI without any facts, except social media fodder, is unfounded at this point.

JMO

Also, if LE were following leads that indicated it might be someone from IN who is responsible, then they have already checked that person’s whereabouts and alibi.
LE has said that they have not ruled anyone out at this point and to me that indicates they do not have tunnel vision and are pursuing all potential POI’s.

 

[OldCop]

BM might have assumed that all was okay as long as he wasn’t captured on footage tossing the bike or in the area when he was supposedly in Denver. He may not have fully understood digital footprints and just how much can be proven through technology. Maybe he thought that if cell service in the area was bad, tracking a person’s movements would be difficult.

And, maybe he thought he was smart to make sure there was no camera in the area where the bike was thrown off the side of the road. BUT, what if there was a camera between the M’s home and the site where the bike was found that just happened to show a pickup driving down the road with SM’s bike in the back sometime between Friday and Sunday?

 

[Fireflize]

bbm
Agreed.
And possibly BM's relatives as well ?
The TD video person said that BM's mother was with him the day of the interview, moving the truck and making it hard for TD to hear.
So is this woman also the author of the email sent to the church ?
"...Barry is beside himself..."
Imo.

IMO it does sound like something a mother would say. Moo

 

[Fireflize]

And, maybe he thought he was smart to make sure there was no camera in the area where the bike was thrown off the side of the road. BUT, what if there was a camera between the M’s home and the site where the bike was found that just happened to show a pickup driving down the road with SM’s bike in the back sometime between Friday and Sunday?

Old cop, as I watched the Prophiling Evil interview with LS, one thing jumped out at me. She asked them how difficult it would be to get a second search warrant for the Morphew home. Before she got halfway through her question, their eyes lit up like Christmas lights.
Would you have an opinion on the significance of the second search warrant? Moo