Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #22

[Error505]

Old cop, as I watched the Prophiling Evil interview with LS, one thing jumped out at me. She asked them how difficult it would be to get a second search warrant for the Morphew home. Before she got halfway through her question, their eyes lit up like Christmas lights.
Would you have an opinion on the significance of the second search warrant? Moo

@OldCop if you’ll look at my post #630 in this thread, you’ll find the video @firefly1230 references. The exchange starts around the 24:00 mark. I also would like another opinion on the difficulty of obtaining a second search warrant for the Morphew home. Great post @Fireflize

 

[Minordetails]

So all these vague hints and references to an alternative murder/abduction theory, not necessarily involving BM, prompted me to do some searching on social media sites. Not knowing what social media sites I should be searching, or what exactly I was looking for, it took me almost 2 hours.
But, let’s just say the maze takes you through Indiana and leads to a business website.
Interesting, if nothing else.

 

[MassGuy]

Respectfully, how can you state that anything is a fact when we have no idea what angle LE is pursuing? We only have tidbits from which we firm opinion.

Additionally, everyone is so jacked up about the second SW for the house. If SM was abducted from or if there is evidence that she was injured or killed there, it would be a crime scene. It is not out of the question that as more evidence was compiled they might need access again. And that doesn’t necessarily point toward any specific perp as a home invasion may have occurred or it could have been someone that lived there or had prior access or was familiar with the house. Employee, extended family member, repair person, friend, nephew or someone paid to cause harm or get even somehow.... none of us know.

If the house was the crime scene, which I definitely think was the case, then that means the bike was staged.

If the bike was staged, then the killer was trying to throw off authorities.

People who try to throw off authorities, are trying to draw attention away from where it would otherwise go. These people are almost invariably close to the victim.

In this case, it would (almost certainly) be an effort to draw attention away from her husband. My guess is that there is going to be evidence of a cleanup at the house as well.

If this involved someone from Indiana for example, then none of that makes any sense. There’s no reason to take the body, or stage the scene.

It also makes no sense that law enforcement would even consider BM’s work site as an area of interest.

 

[swedeheart]

here's a new 2.5 minute video posted by investigation discovery on twitter.

https://twitter.com/DiscoveryID/status/1288539033996390400

 

[oviedo]

BBM:

I'm not LE, and even I was seeing red flags immediately in this case, and by immediately, I mean, the very first time I read about it.

I went back to read my first few posts way back on Thread #1, and here's some of what i noted initially:

Questions I have:

• When was the last verified independent sighting of SM?
• Where was her husband last weekend?
• What's her current marital status, i.e, married, separated, living together or separately, etc.?
• Was SM's cell phone found at the home or not?"

Any time there's a whiff of money around a case, I get concerned.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil."

Taken individually, the facts surrounding SM's disappearance don't in and of themselves signal foul play. Taken collectively, the facts are extremely concerning.

I'm seeing red flags littered all over the field on this one.

And at this point, I'm wondering whether or not anyone at all observed her out riding her bike on Sunday.

Has LE stated they have footage or eyewitness accounts of her leaving the house or anywhere out on a ride that day?

It would be relatively easy for someone to drive out to a remote location and toss her bike off a trail or side of the road in an effort to misdirect investigators.

I'm not assuming a Sunday bike ride ever occurred.
_____________

Many of us recognized that this case was terribly, terribly "off" from the very beginning, even before we had seen or heard anything from BM.
Before BM released that 27-second video.
Before TD published the YT video of his utterly damning conversation with BM.
Before LE executed multiple search warrants of the home.
Before the FBI went to dig up concrete at one of BM's job sites.

Nothing we have seen or heard from LE indicates they think a stranger abducted her.
Nothing we have seen or heard from LE indicates they think SM disappeared herself.
Nothing we have seen or heard from LE indicates they think a mountain lion snatched her.

There is, however, another scenario that appears to make a whole lot of sense given LE's behavior.

JMO.

not to mention two, count them two, sealed search warrants for the family home.
JMO

 

[MassGuy]

here's a new 2.5 minute video posted by investigation discovery on twitter.

https://twitter.com/DiscoveryID/status/1288539033996390400

“According to officials he has been fully cooperative, and they do not believe he is involved in Suzanne’s disappearance.”

Boy, I’d love to hear where they got that!

 

[DizzyB]

So all these vague hints and references to an alternative murder/abduction theory, not necessarily involving BM, prompted me to do some searching on social media sites. Not knowing what social media sites I should be searching, or what exactly I was looking for, it took me almost 2 hours.
But, let’s just say the maze takes you through Indiana and leads to a business website.
Interesting, if nothing else.

Been there, done that. Lots of rabbit holes to go down, but ultimately they led me back to Colorado. I imagine that Indiana connections were thoroughly vetted, as we know other agencies did work there on behalf of Suzanne’s case. I did wonder if the move to Colorado was in any way tied to a business venture.

 

[Poedelini]

“According to officials he has been fully cooperative, and they do not believe he is involved in Suzanne’s disappearance.”

Boy, I’d love to hear where they got that!

Yeah wow, how did they put it in there together with the neighbor who heard something on the construction site of Barry and not to mention that LE said no one is been ruled out. *Shakes head*

 

[DizzyB]

“According to officials he has been fully cooperative, and they do not believe he is involved in Suzanne’s disappearance.”

Boy, I’d love to hear where they got that!

“Unanswered texts from the girls”-did LE state that texts specifically were the means of communication? I thought Barry said they couldn’t get a hold of Mom. Period.

 

[TKG]

“According to officials he has been fully cooperative, and they do not believe he is involved in Suzanne’s disappearance.”

Boy, I’d love to hear where they got that!

I said the exact same thing. I’ve yet to read any MSM stating that...

 

[MassGuy]

“Unanswered texts from the girls”-did LE state that texts specifically were the means of communication? I thought Barry said they couldn’t get a hold of Mom. Period.

Exactly. If there were texts, which I do think there probably were, then I would expect those unanswered texts to be followed by multiple phone calls.

I think liberties are being taken here.

Also, by saying the husband isn’t involved, they are making it a juicer story. Mystery sells, and they are a tv network after all.

 

[Poedelini]

Exactly. If there were texts, which I do think there probably were, then I would expect those unanswered texts to be followed by multiple phone calls.

I think liberties are being taken here.

Also, by saying the husband isn’t involved, they are making it a juicer story. Mystery sells, and they are a tv network after all.

I thought ID was a more of a investigative accurate kind of channel instead of going for the most juicy story.

 

[GordianKnot]

If the house was the crime scene, which I definitely think was the case, then that means the bike was staged.

If the bike was staged, then the killer was trying to throw off authorities.

People who try to throw off authorities, are trying to draw attention away from where it would otherwise go. These people are almost invariably close to the victim.

In this case, it would (almost certainly) be an effort to draw attention away from her husband. My guess is that there is going to be evidence of a cleanup at the house as well.

If this involved someone from Indiana for example, then none of that makes any sense. There’s no reason to take the body, or stage the scene.

It also makes no sense that law enforcement would even consider BM’s work site as an area of interest.

Right. What's apparently being floated as a suggestion is the following:

• Ignore the fact that LE has told the public that there's not a threat to the community.
• Ignore the fact that two separate search warrants were executed at the home.
• Ignore the fact that the FBI spent 3 days digging up concrete at one of BM's job sites.
• Ignore the fact that LE has never verified that they have proof SM actually went on a bike ride that day.
• Ignore the fact that it was the neighbor who reported her missing, not her husband.
• Ignore the fact that LE announced early on that it was a criminal investigation.
• Ignore the fact that BM rushed to secure guardianship of SM in the wake of her disappearance.
• Ignore the fact that BM offered 100k contingent upon SM's safe return, "no questions asked."
• Ignore the fact that BM made a 27-second video that began, "Oh, Suzanne," and stopped talking about her in public thereafter.
• Ignore the fact that LE has asked people in the area to preserve their video footage from between the dates of May 8th - May 12th.

Ignore all these facts.

Focus instead on some unnamed person in Indiana that may or may not have been in Colorado that weekend.

Because that unnamed person who may or may not have been in Colorado that weekend may or may not have some completely unknown reason for wanting to make SM disappear.

Ignore facts.

Focus on a bunch of highly speculative and imaginative leaps, instead.

"Look over there."

NO.

I ain't doing that.

JMO.

 

[Cassady]

“According to officials he has been fully cooperative, and they do not believe he is involved in Suzanne’s disappearance.”

Boy, I’d love to hear where they got that!

IMO it matches what LS said several weeks ago about a friend or relative of the spouse of the missing person indicating that early on LE was not sharing much info with the family, but as time went on LE started sharing more info with the family.

 

[Fireflize]

@OldCop if you’ll look at my post #630 in this thread, you’ll find the video @firefly1230 references. The exchange starts around the 24:00 mark. I also would like another opinion on the difficulty of obtaining a second search warrant for the Morphew home. Great post @Fireflize

Thx for posting time mark.

 

[swedeheart]

(maybe this link will be embed the video).

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=381449859500710

 

[10ofRods]

I've never seen a PCA contain a rape victim's medical records. Of course, addresses are redacted, especially
if there is a credible fear that a person will be harassed or threatened. However, the PCAs and warrants are available.

Even before there's a POI or an arrest?

So...in this case of Suzanne Morphew, if LE has 10 suspects or POI's, if the case were in Indiana, we'd all know who those people were? But not their addresses.

I've seen newspapers from California from 1960 and earlier where it is clear that police had "rounded up" a slew of suspects and then found minor charges to bring against each, so that they could be booked. Of course the Zoot Suit Trial is the most famous, but there are many others. We stopped doing that a long time ago in California and as @Dave F. says, it's been that way a long time in Colorado as well. I've also lived in several other states in the West (NM, West Texas, Utah) and have followed trials in the other Western states for years - it's been a long time (if ever) that LE released information about any persons prior to an arrest.

Now I will say that this gives a lot of latitude to LE and CO seems to be the most tight-lipped. I watched it start during the JonBenet case and all that has ensued since then. We wouldn't have the information we do have about that case had not some LE and prosecutors, after leaving their employment, wrote books. Lots of books and interviews.

What is unusual in this case, really, is the near total silence of everyone in Salida. Apparently, there's only one other permanent resident in Maysville who might know anything and she has said what she wants to say. Usually, in a small town, there's at least one town gossip who wants to speak to the press off-record. However, in today's journalism we have some unusual situations where many newspapers do not want "off-record" statements unless the person's identity is known both to the editor (who also talks to the person) and the journalist has good reason for protecting their identity (safety). This isn't done so much any more - so my issue is always with the press, not the courts.

For example, again in the Kenzie Lueck case, the neighbors did start to talk to reporters before LE released similar information. LE released a lot of information right upon arrest and did not attempt to conceal search sites while the searches were happening.

When a crime happens in the small town where I grew up, all I have to do is go to FB and read the gossip shared (usually with qualifications and provisos) by my former high school classmates. The local police are known for "leaks." I think they believe a certain number of leaks can make a suspect trip him/herself up. I also think they hope that letting someone know they're onto them makes that person more likely to confess and therefore avoid stricter sentencing (that's what they say). But it's the residents themselves who talk and share info. A woman recently barricaded herself into her house, was well-armed, and fired a few shots (at a neighbor's house), then set the living room on fire and fled out the back door. Even while it was happening, the neighbors were tweeting about the various issues and causes.

SO...it's interesting that Salida is so quiet. Is it because it's a resort town? Would an entire town obey LE if asked to stay quiet? Is everyone quiet for their own reasons? Is it just local culture? Is there a collective reason for quiet? All of these things can happen in any town, but Salida is an outdoor-adventure oriented town.

To me, the one thing that LE ruled out early that perplexes me is the involvement of a stranger. I wish I knew what the rumors are about that and how they think they ruled that out. So quickly.

And, it would seem, permanently.

 

[Cassady]

Yeah wow, how did they put it in there together with the neighbor who heard something on the construction site of Barry and not to mention that LE said no one is been ruled out. *Shakes head*

It always comes down to asking the right question...IMO. Perhaps a reporter from that organization asked the right question?

 

[swedeheart]

Even before there's a POI or an arrest?

So...in this case of Suzanne Morphew, if LE has 10 suspects or POI's, if the case were in Indiana, we'd all know who those people were? But not their addresses.

I've seen newspapers from California from 1960 and earlier where it is clear that police had "rounded up" a slew of suspects and then found minor charges to bring against each, so that they could be booked. Of course the Zoot Suit Trial is the most famous, but there are many others. We stopped doing that a long time ago in California and as @Dave F. says, it's been that way a long time in Colorado as well. I've also lived in several other states in the West (NM, West Texas, Utah) and have followed trials in the other Western states for years - it's been a long time (if ever) that LE released information about any persons prior to an arrest.

Now I will say that this gives a lot of latitude to LE and CO seems to be the most tight-lipped. I watched it start during the JonBenet case and all that has ensued since then. We wouldn't have the information we do have about that case had not some LE and prosecutors, after leaving their employment, wrote books. Lots of books and interviews.

What is unusual in this case, really, is the near total silence of everyone in Salida. Apparently, there's only one other permanent resident in Maysville who might know anything and she has said what she wants to say. Usually, in a small town, there's at least one town gossip who wants to speak to the press off-record. However, in today's journalism we have some unusual situations where many newspapers do not want "off-record" statements unless the person's identity is known both to the editor (who also talks to the person) and the journalist has good reason for protecting their identity (safety). This isn't done so much any more - so my issue is always with the press, not the courts.

For example, again in the Kenzie Lueck case, the neighbors did start to talk to reporters before LE released similar information. LE released a lot of information right upon arrest and did not attempt to conceal search sites while the searches were happening.

When a crime happens in the small town where I grew up, all I have to do is go to FB and read the gossip shared (usually with qualifications and provisos) by my former high school classmates. The local police are known for "leaks." I think they believe a certain number of leaks can make a suspect trip him/herself up. I also think they hope that letting someone know they're onto them makes that person more likely to confess and therefore avoid stricter sentencing (that's what they say). But it's the residents themselves who talk and share info. A woman recently barricaded herself into her house, was well-armed, and fired a few shots (at a neighbor's house), then set the living room on fire and fled out the back door. Even while it was happening, the neighbors were tweeting about the various issues and causes.

SO...it's interesting that Salida is so quiet. Is it because it's a resort town? Would an entire town obey LE if asked to stay quiet? Is everyone quiet for their own reasons? Is it just local culture? Is there a collective reason for quiet? All of these things can happen in any town, but Salida is an outdoor-adventure oriented town.

To me, the one thing that LE ruled out early that perplexes me is the involvement of a stranger. I wish I knew what the rumors are about that and how they think they ruled that out. So quickly.

And, it would seem, permanently.

it is unusual. usually in small towns, people are gossiping all over the place. (i know...i grew up in one. ). have we had any insiders at all on this thread? that's another oddity, to be 22 threads into a case and nada.

 

[Ontario Mom]

So all these vague hints and references to an alternative murder/abduction theory, not necessarily involving BM, prompted me to do some searching on social media sites. Not knowing what social media sites I should be searching, or what exactly I was looking for, it took me almost 2 hours.
But, let’s just say the maze takes you through Indiana and leads to a business website.
Interesting, if nothing else.

And, 100% social media rumor, 100% unsubstantiated and not approved for discussion here.

So, there's that.

I prefer to stick to discussion of the facts, as they're reported.

jmo