Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #24

[10ofRods]

I wonder if BM often got annoyed or angry when Suzanne had long conversations with her friends.

I wonder this, too. Or angry that she maintained actual friendships, perhaps ones in which it was possible for her to communicate her feelings about many things. Many ramifications to this thought, IMO.

Cadaver dogs pick up the scentdead bodies. I know the longer a body is in a car the stronger the scent.

Cadaverine isn't produced until at least 12 hours after death and yes, the body would have had to be in the car for some time (at 12 hours, it's still barely detectable - there are electronic sniffers these days).

I would think that all cars were searched the first night. Are you thinking the car was used later to transport a body?

 

[Backstroke10]

Which worker? Not asking for a name, asking when did a worker get mentioned as showing up at the house - on Sunday or any other time?

There may not be a worker. It was speculation after the PE video as to why there were two cars parked at the house. A few of us were thinking it could have been one of BM’s workers that parked at the house and rode with BM to Denver. I think it was probably Suzanne’s car and maybe her daughters car. I’m still not clear about the two cars. MOO

 

[Sillybilly]

Wait...the son of whose girlfriend?

Suzanne's girlfriend that she was apparently texting with Saturday evening.

 

[lamlawindy]

So here's questions for two specific barristers on the thread, @lamlawindy and @Cassady . From a defense attorney point of view, how do you advise your client after such seemingly damning information comes out via the PE video? Or defend the client?

I'd advise my client to remain silent, as I said before. Remember, we do not know (a) who the family member is that the hosts of Profiling Evil spoke with & (b) she wasn't telling them these things under oath. If she is a witness at any trial, there'll be plenty of time to depose her later & assess her credibility.

EDIT: Now that I know that the family member that spoke to the Profiling Evil hosts was not the person that was texting with Suzanne, my answer remains the same.

 

[10ofRods]

It was posed as a hypothetical a few posts upthread.

AH - okay, thanks.

I don't think there was a job in Denver, I don't think a worker drove up to Denver with Barry and I see no evidence that the cars were any other cars than ones normally in the driveway.

But, if such an individual were to exist, they know a lot. They would in fact, be Barry's primary alibi.

I think the nephew's early statements about training are in fact what BM said first, and that the story is still changing, but I don't think there was ever a job in Denver, doing landscaping, during the height of Colorado's shut down.

Thanks for the clarification, SB. Makes sense to at least pose that hypothetical.

 

[Backstroke10]

It was posed as a hypothetical a few posts upthread.

Thanks Sillybilly! You explained that so much better than my rambling post.

 

[Hatfield]

DBM ...My question was answered a few posts back. Thanks

 

[Backstroke10]

I agree that the Indiana sale may have happened regardless. But this new piece of property in Colorado, in Barry’s name-if Suzanne were here, would she be on that deed? Could the funds from the Indiana sale be needed for that? And what if Suzanne didn’t want to do that deal? Was “her money” required for it and he found a way around it-for the short term?

Great questions. I’m wondering about the whole Colorado land purchase as well. It bothers me. MOO

 

[lamlawindy]

Suzanne's girlfriend that she was apparently texting with Saturday evening.

OK. I'm confused: Was she texting with (a) the family member that the Profiling Evil hosts spoke with or (b) a girlfriend who then spoke to the family member or (c) is the family member & the girlfriend the same person?

 

[marylamby]

Wait...the son of whose girlfriend?

See the PE live video or the shortened version. It was SM's friend who she was texting with which abruptly ended on Saturday night.
ETA: Geeze, no idea where I came up with the wrong initials!

 

[lamlawindy]

There are interesting versions. I remember how 3 young men broke into an old guy’s house to rob him, he hid in the closet with a gun, fired and killed one of the men. The two others were accused of murder. So to say, creating the situation that led to murder.

What if SM forbade some friend of BM to enter the house? And the person did, and the argument resulted in SM’s death? Is it possible to accuse both BM and that person of murder?

Well, for accomplice liability to apply, the accomplice would have to have knowledge that a crime was going to be perpetrated. If Barry told Mr. X to go to the morphew home to get a tool & somehow Mr. X killed Suzanne, then presumably there would be no accomplice liability because Barry had no idea that Mr. X would harm Suzanne.

 

[Seattle1]

Me too. I'm not sure why we're assuming they were "unknown." To me, it sounded like Neighbor saw Suzanne's car and one other in the driveway, knocked on the door, then assumed bike ride. Bike ride assumption may have been a prompt from BM who may have still been on the phone with neighbor.

I'd figure the family had 4 cars (one for each person). There's a pic somewhere of a small piece of construction equipment in one of the garage bays. The bikes were surely stored in the garage, I'm guessing there was one bay for bikes and other exercise equipment and maybe one reserved for BM's truck.

Did PE actually say the neighbor didn't recognize the cars? I thought from context just the opposite.

I've now had 3 go's at the PE Live video and I believe that by the host trying so hard not to directly insinuate or accuse BM of anything -- he fashioned the driveway scenario using more words than necessary. I believe the host calling this "the birth of the bike story," was his own way to place emphasis on the person he believes introduced the bike to what later became the SM missing story. **Actually, I think it was more of an interjection than an introduction. The host follows up the bike story several more times, using the note and TD's YT video interview, where BM is again at the center.

I'm also inclined to believe that the neighbor was talking to BM from nearby his property when she confirmed to him 1) no answer at the door, and 2) two vehicles parked in the driveway. I believe the language by the host suggests that BM immediately provided that SM was on a bike ride. I doubt BM made a request to check the garage for SM's bike since his sole purpose here was to put the notion of SM out on a bike ride in motion.

It was done, and BM breathed a sigh of relief.

MOO

ETA: **

 

[Tate123]

OK. I'm confused: Was she texting with (a) the family member that the Profiling Evil hosts spoke with or (b) a girlfriend who then spoke to the family member or (c) is the family member & the girlfriend the same person?

a)No
b)Yes
c)No

 

[Murphy1950]

JMO
The way I remember it. He was in a local place and the clerk started talking about the missing SM. I think at some point the discussion went to what she was wearing and that got written down from information he provided.

That was Barry's 'helpful' description of her, written by Barry.
Baby Blue helmet...biking clothes...nothing else, no other detail added, whatsoever.
The clerk who received it, did post she thought it as vague...and weird. Vague?? Of course he did let her know about the 100K but it's not a part of his helpful description.

IMO the purpose of the note...was to continue/reinforce the narrative, nothing to do with helping find Suzanne...there was no description. ...

This is clearly a gray area post...the note was clearly discussed in detail (actually noted for it's lack of detail) Discussed by PE host, Chris and Mike who are approved, Unfortunately the actual note is posted by an unapproved source.

 

[lamlawindy]

a)No.
b)Yes.
c)No.

Ok, thank you for that! I watched the YouTube video this AM while eating breakfast but did not have a chance to watch it again and parse out the details of who they spoke with.

 

[Janeumayer]

The following is a clip from a transcript of a recent 48 Hours show about the disappearance of Crystal McDowell during Hurricane Harvey in 2017. Her ex husband, Steve McDowell eventually led police to the body.
Part of the show featured Steve’s daughter Krysta, from a previous marriage, who stood behind her father during the entire investigation. I couldn’t help but think of SM’s daughters when I watched Krysta’s heartbreak when she found out what her father had done.
Krysta McDowell: He looks at me and he says … "the Rangers told me that if I tell them where the body is that … 'They'll lessen my punishment.'" And I said, "Well, you don't know where the body is. Like, how would you know?" …And he was like, "What if it's true?"

Krysta McDowell: And I asked him, "Do you know where the body is?" And he just, like, looked away from me and -- just, like, bawled his eyes out. And at that point I knew that he knew where it was.

Maureen Maher: What did you think at that point?

Krysta McDowell: I don't know. What do you think? [Emotional, her voice breaks] If someone you love and you've sat here and defended the whole time tells you they're guilty, what do you think?

Maureen Maher: Did you think he had actually confessed to you at that point? Even though he never said the actual words?

Krysta McDowell: [nods to affirm] 'Cause I asked him what he did over and over. I begged him to tell me. And he was just like, "I just -- I can't tell you what I did."

Somehow Barry doesn’t strike me as the kind of man to confess or accept any wrongdoing. Barry Morphew: prove me wrong.

 

[Harmony 2]

Yes, that's what is confusing to me. I thought they said she was last "seen" later than they thought. So they actually said the last time she was in contact with someone was later than they thought?

Wow I was locked out because I couldn't remember my password.

These questions were addressed on Lauren's live.

Lauren Scharf on Facebook Watch

Question: Do we even know who was the last one to see her?

Lauren Scharf (timestamp 10:30)

“So I did ask CBI about that and CBI told me ‘it’s part of the investigation they’re actively seeking tips from citizens but they believe that someone has seen her more recently than previously thought and then when I asked about the question you know when is the last time someone spoke with Suzanne- perhaps someone has spoken with her more recently than previously thought. So it’s still part of the investigation.”

Would texting count as "spoken with her"?

 

[Tate123]

Ok, thank you for that! I watched the YouTube video this AM while eating breakfast but did not have a chance to watch it again and parse out the details of who they spoke with.

It's tough to get through. I'm working off a cliffsnote version of the cliffsnote version.

 

[Hannah3105]

As for Suzanne’s friend being concerned about their text conversation ending abruptly, I think either:

a) Suzanne always signed off her texts a certain way and this didn’t happen.
b) Suzanne was typing, her friend could see that she was typing, but the message was never sent (I’m thinking iPhone 3 dots...)
c) Her friend did receive responses, but they were clearly not from Suzanne and instead, from someone impersonating her.

I also don’t believe Barry went to a work site on the Sunday. I think that was an alibi to give to Suzanne for what, or should I say, WHOM he was actually visiting. I think LE caught him out on that lie early on and he admitted to an affair, as well as notifying the woman so she then came forward. I feel that the affair and the fact that he lied about his whereabouts were the reasons LE searched the house. Unfortunately they couldn’t find anything to pin murder on him and his lying about his whereabouts was “justifiable” to cover up the affair, which is why they haven’t been able to use that lie against him...YET!

Barry knows that LE have been on to him since day 1 due to their exposure of his affair, hence his perceived dislike of them. Narcissists hate it when their true colours are exposed, and hate the ones who expose them.

So many rumours circulated social media early on about affairs and several names were mentioned. I do feel that the initial rumour of an affair was accurate, but when so many names started coming up, the affair was put back in to the rumour only category.

All MOO.

 

[PaulaDC]

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