Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #25

[Ontario Mom]

Bam!
Bam!!
Bam!!!!

Gordianss post is AMAZING!!

Mark your calendars, folks. I believe this is THE firstever @Warwick7 Triple Bam © post on this case.

(In all seriousness, we love your "BAM!" replies. You're supportive of justice for the victims and the LE agencies lead on the cases. I know I speak for tons of WS'ers, when I say we're sure glad you're here).

 

[Truecolors]

Imo, the Moormans know that only BM knows where Suzanne is and he is not going to tell. I completely understand their actions. They trust LE will do everything in their power to find her. Their input can only upset the daughters.

I agree. I note that SM’s family has been oddly quiet, but I don’t criticize them. I think I understand why they are quiet.

MOO

 

[Lilypad13]

If that ring is gone, that points away from BM, IMO. Surely he’d want that ring for his daughters.

Speculation:

It was found in the house.

It was the found “item”. Risky, but would likely result in it being found and eventually returned to the girls (no matter what the outcome for BM). *would be wild if someone close to BM found it

It’s gone. This points away from BM, IMO.

MOO

The item could very well be her ring but I don’t think if BM took their mother away from them he would give a second thought to the girls not having their mother’s wedding ring. Sadly. IMO

 

[Error505]

You may be correct. I have indeed seen investigators use a "pressuring" strategy on suspects. Here's the problem, though: in the cases that I've worked on where that was the investigators' strategy, they used it because they did not otherwise have a solid case against the suspect. They were missing a key element of the crime, and if the suspect had just refused to talk, then the investigators wouldn't have been able to make their case at that time.

If that's the situation here -- and, of course, we may be incorrect that the investigators are pursuing such a strategy -- then Barry Morphew need only keep quiet. Now, this may be the only play investigators have at this point, but it also telegraphs the fact that they are missing something.

INDEED They Are! Suzanne Morphew to be exact...

 

[Lilypad13]

Mark your calendars, folks. I believe this is THE first Warwick Triple Bam ©

I love it! How many BAMS will she give for an arrest?!!

 

[Error505]

If -- as has been reported -- he's hired counsel, then he's been told a thousand times to not talk to anybody about the case. Of course, clients only follow our advice about 20% of the time...

That’s good to know. I sincerely hope Barry is in the majority of 80% !! moo

 

[Seattle1]

I agree I can’t help but recall the words very early on that it “wasn’t going to end well” when she was reported missing from her brother? IIRC - I think her side of the family has been more informed and there has been no reason for them to speak publicly because of this knowledge ...
IMO

Yup. As soon as the family hinted they didn't believe a bike ride happened, as told by the husband, I didn't expect to hear more from SM's family.

Seriously, what could we possibly expect them to say after hinting they did not believe the husband's story! After that, I saw the media only trying to pit them against each other. I didn't think then or now the family wanting to do/say anything to get between them and their granddaughters and nieces.

MOO

 

[10ofRods]

Article does sound like an article if clothing. BM had "biking clothes" written on his note, along with "baby blue bike helmet." I think he may have had to discard a set of bike clothes so that they would be missing from the home. You may be right. Moo

It's not "baby blue bike helmet" IMO.

It's:
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baby blue bike
helmet
biking clothing
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No color term next to the helmet.

No description of color or type of biking clothing.

IMO. MOO.

 

[10ofRods]

I don’t think it’s jewelry they found Curious what kind of guns have shells ? Or casings or whatever you call them ?
IMO

Shotguns, rifles, revolvers, pistols. All of them, IMO. My dad had some ancient thing that kept the Casings inside, but he said it was dangerous and didn't really work.

Maybe there are modern versions of that - almost certainly not legal in most places. Any gun experts here?

 

[BeckyF]

1. I was thinking the reverse of your thought: I noticed that many people do not include the adjective "anonymous" in front of "family member" and wondered if it was an attempt to bolster the person's credibility. I add "anonymous" in front of "family member" to denote (not just imply) that the person isn't willing to stick his/her neck out and, IMHO, his/her credibility is lessened.

2. I haven't ever heard of the spouse of a missing person remaining out of the spotlight in the past. I find Barry's non-actions to be definitely odd. I find the Moorman family's non-actions odd too, though to a lesser extent since Barry is the spouse.* Still, if my sister or aunt was missing and I was as close to my extended family as the Moormans seem to be, I would not shun the spotlight and would want to ensure that I did everything to help find her.

* I also find it odd that I've seen many posts on WS that appear to criticize Barry for not doing more to find Suzanne while only seeing a handful of posts that criticize the Moormans for doing the same.

As far as statement No2 and under the *, we have to be careful about criticizing anyone in SM’s family since WS is a victim friendly forum and they are considered victims. That could be restraining many comments. JMO though.

 

[TxGidget]

Are you referring to the two cars in the driveway mentioned by the neighbor on the Mother's Day? I had completely different assumptions than I've seen anyone mention here.

I assumed BM had his truck, and he left his car (or maybe a kid's car) in the driveway. SM's car was also in the driveway. BM had to cover the fact that his wife must be home, by coming up with the fabrication she was on a bike ride; this would provide a reason for her car being in the driveway, but no SM in the house.

But it seems a lot less risky and complicated to not bother with the bike staging at all IMO. Just send LE to the house for a welfare check. Car is there, but no SM. BM could have maintained that she was plucked out of her isolated house, just as well as off her bike. Oh well.
I’m assuming LE didn’t leap ahead to “bike ride” no matter what they were told by the family. I don’t think they’d mount a serious search unless they were sure she wasn’t passed out in a closet. The house mustn't have raised alarm bells. But the missing bike set off a weeklong search. MOO

 

[10ofRods]

If that ring is gone, that points away from BM, IMO. Surely he’d want that ring for his daughters.

Speculation:

It was found in the house.

It was the found “item”. Risky, but would likely result in it being found and eventually returned to the girls (no matter what the outcome for BM). *would be wild if someone close to BM found it

It’s gone. This points away from BM, IMO.

MOO

My experience with an ex and two daughters would say otherwise.

The "found item" was said, by LE, to be near Highway 50, which if it was really "inside the house" is one of the most extravagant fibs I've ever heard from recent LE (who is otherwise so silent).

It's gone? It points away from BM? How so? I would say the opposite.

 

[10ofRods]

But it seems a lot less risky and complicated to not bother with the bike staging at all IMO. Just send LE to the house for a welfare check. Car is there, but no SM. BM could have maintained that she was plucked out of her isolated house, just as well as off her bike. Oh well.
I’m assuming LE didn’t leap ahead to “bike ride” no matter what they were told by the family. I don’t think they’d mount a serious search unless they were sure she wasn’t passed out in a closet. The house mustn't have raised alarm bells. But the missing bike set off a weeklong search. MOO

But that wouldn't have triggered an intensive 3 day long search of the area surrounding the bike.

Further, all LE focus would have been directly on the house, and if in fact security cameras weren't working and if in fact BM didn't let them into the house (because...it would be the only place for LE to look for clues at that point), bigger red flag.

Murderers typically try to point away from themselves when they use staging. And that is the primary and most important reason for the bike (if it's staging). It works sometimes.

 

[Seattle1]

It's not "baby blue bike helmet" IMO.

It's:
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baby blue bike
helmet
biking clothing
----------------

No color term next to the helmet.

No description of color or type of biking clothing.

IMO. MOO.

I'm taken how most of us here recall that SM's bike helmet is blue. I've never seen SM's bike so I have no opinion. However, it wasn't lost on me that BM seems to describe only her bike by color -- probably because he's seen it in the garage or bike shed -- areas important to him.

I was not surprised he had no description of the personal bike items, personal to SM such as her helmet or her bike clothes. I really doubt that he remembers or can recall these items. My narc friend of 30 years could not tell anybody my favorite color if his life depended on it! MOO

 

[RumorMonger]

LE is hitting his pressure points, and as a result, the person who killed SM is likely experiencing a ton of pressure, both external and internal, as a result of everything that's unfolded this past week.

SBM
You may very well be right. I admittedly don't get it. What are his pressure points that LE is hitting with this canvass? Did they hit the same points when they staged the same scene (with zero results as far as we know) a month or two ago?

 

[TxGidget]

Today I was asking myself, what is the one piece of info about this case that I’d most like to know. If LE were to give me one single morsel. It’s tough to pick, but I’d go with, “when was the last time anyone communicated with SM, since it was later than LE originally thought.”

 

[Truecolors]

My experience with an ex and two daughters would say otherwise.

The "found item" was said, by LE, to be near Highway 50, which if it was really "inside the house" is one of the most extravagant fibs I've ever heard from recent LE (who is otherwise so silent).

It's gone? It points away from BM? How so? I would say the opposite.

Sorry, my wording was obviously confusing. My speculations were for 3 places the ring might have been (in the house, on the road as the “found item”, or gone). I didn’t mean to imply in any way that LE lied.

JMO, BM would want the ring for the daughters. I understand that others disagree.

 

[Backstroke10]

It's not "baby blue bike helmet" IMO.
It's:
--------
baby blue bike
helmet
biking clothing
----------------
No color term next to the helmet.

No description of color or type of biking clothing.
IMO. MOO.

I’m interpreting it the same as you. What I find appalling is that he couldn’t take the extra minute or two to write a legible description that included more than 6 words. Unbelievable. MOO

 

[Murphy1950]

I’m interpreting it the same as you. What I find appalling is that he couldn’t take the extra minute or two to write a legible description that included more than 6 words. Unbelievable. MOO

The intent was never to put out a description, just a narrative IMO.

 

[Backstroke10]

The intent was never to put out a description, just a narrative IMO.

Yep. He’s a real piece of work. I’ll leave it at that. MOO