Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #25

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  • #321
During the PE video it was mentioned that a family member said the GPS truck data did not match what BM was saying. That could have been a conclusion that the family member made and not something LE stated. For instance, BM could have told the family that he was near "fill in blank" and when the individual spoke with LE asked if BM visited "fill in blank" and LE stated GPS does not show that. so LE did not state that BM statements did not match data rather it was a conclusion of the family member speaking to PE. Just speculation and MOO.
 
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I hear you and agree. But devil’s advocate positing here. I believe the house was going to get the once-over no matter what. And it sure did. I think you open yourself up to more risk by venturing out in public to stage a bike.

IMO The narrative of the bike ride serves as proof that Suzanne was alive when BM left the home for Denver so he couldn’t have done anything to her. Therefor he must be innocent, you see. This is worth of sneaking out with the bike in the dark (maybe even through the woods if that’s possible) to stage it, if that’s what happened. Or to just stop there near with the truck for a minute in the early hours or late at night when there barely are any souls around. And if you have a body on your hands which you have to make disappear then just throwing a bike from somewhere could look like a minimum risk affair...

I’m not saying this is what happened, but at the moment I can’t discount this as a possibility. For all I know BM could be innocent, but right now this is not looking good for him.
 
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So in a case like this, who ultimately calls the shots? If one agency feels that leaking information will help the cause, do they need approval from the others to do so? Where does Sheriff Spezze rank on the ladder?
 
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This is just so beautiful; it made me cry.
Is there any way we could send it to Barry?

I have a feeling he’s watching Lauren Scharf’s Page closely these days. MOO JMO
 
  • #327
I’d bet she didn’t wear them. Large rings and gloves don’t mix well. I honestly don’t see how people wear rings when exercising. I’m a competitive tennis player, and the thought of wearing mine gives me claustrophobia. Hands swell or a finger can get jammed. No thanks. But about 10% of other players I come up against do have theirs on.
ITA, no way you can get your gloves over that monster rock comfortably. I never wear mine while exercising period.

I do think the personal item found by LE was clothing or Ipods, If it were the helmet, I think the bike ride narrative would still be going strong.

Moo
 
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You may be correct. I have indeed seen investigators use a "pressuring" strategy on suspects. Here's the problem, though: in the cases that I've worked on where that was the investigators' strategy, they used it because they did not otherwise have a solid case against the suspect. They were missing a key element of the crime, and if the suspect had just refused to talk, then the investigators wouldn't have been able to make their case at that time.

If that's the situation here -- and, of course, we may be incorrect that the investigators are pursuing such a strategy -- then Barry Morphew need only keep quiet. Now, this may be the only play investigators have at this point, but it also telegraphs the fact that they are missing something.
BBM - Suzanne's body IMO
 
  • #330
Some people that have been interviewed by MSM (including Profiling Evil) in this case have been willing to be identified and others have not. IIRC most of those who were identified by the MSM were friends or relatives of BLM and those who were not willing to be identified were friends or relatives of SM. IMO virtually all commenters here on WS have sided with and/or given more weight to the anonymous sources than the identified sources. IMO This is interesting because its the opposite of most cases. I wonder why that is the case here.
Curious observation.
For me, the answer is: BM's conduct from day one coupled with LE conduct from day one.
 
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Some people that have been interviewed by MSM (including Profiling Evil) in this case have been willing to be identified and others have not. IIRC most of those who were identified by the MSM were friends or relatives of BLM and those who were not willing to be identified were friends or relatives of SM. IMO virtually all commenters here on WS have sided with and/or given more weight to the anonymous sources than the identified sources. IMO This is interesting because its the opposite of most cases. I wonder why that is the case here.

Imo they where identified but in the public they want to remain anonymous. So in my eyes they are just as credible as the people who have been willing to be identified.
 
  • #332
I know nothing but its interesting to me that they gave SM's exact birthdate and not her age. I don't know about y'all but when I look at a person its difficult for me to figure out his/her birthdate. ;-)

Edit: I didn't even notice she was wearing jewelry in the pictures. I read about in approximately 100 different posts. Shows what I know. As stated: nothing.

Funny, I never noticed the jewelry either, it's her face that stands out to me.
 
  • #333
Regarding the GPS truck data: does it include times? For instance, could LE know that BM’s truck stopped for 1 minute on an early Sunday morning, right where Suzanne’s bike was discovered?
 
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Regarding the GPS truck data: does it include times? For instance, could LE know that BM’s truck stopped for 1 minute on an early Sunday morning, right where Suzanne’s bike was discovered?

In another Colorado case, the tragic murder of a young boy, the internal data from the vehicle the murderess was driving, showed her stopped at a location for five minutes, later determined to be the location from which she MOVED his body to another location out of state, complicating the investigation to no end.

Just my opinion, based on my flimsy memory
 
  • #335
People are on the right track but to help clear up the proper terms.

The previous "revolver" discussion was about right, but the word "pistol" is really just a word meaning any handgun.

My Dad and family were a hunting family so I picked up some knowledge along the way about them. Lets have a quick Gun101 class to help get the terms right for this and future cases. Some other terms can be used for some of these. This gives a basic breakdown using the common terms I am used to IMO.

First,
there are 2 basic types of guns.
Either "Long Guns" (rifles, shotguns, etc.) or
"Handguns" / "Pistols".

Secondly,
in the Handgun variety specifically, there are also primarily 2 basic types of handguns.
Either "Revolvers" or
"Semi-Automatics"

The "Semi-Automatic" handguns are the type that have the clip in the handle and eject an empty shell casing after each shot.

The "Revolver" is the type of handgun that has a cylinder that rotates around the barrel where 1 shell always lines up with the barrel. As you squeeze the trigger on a double-action revolver, it will rotate the cylinder to line up the next round with the barrel. After firing, the empty shell casings remain in the cylinder. After firing all rounds (usually 5 or 6 in a revolver), you usually pull a small leaver which opens the cylinder to the side to dump out the empty casings. Then reload the entire cylinder with new shells and you are ready to go again.

With a "Semi-Automatic" handgun like the Glock 9mm, the shells are loaded into a "magazine" usually called a "clip" which goes into the bottom of the handle and shoved upwards till it locks in place. Then after "racking the slide" (puts 1 shell in chamber), you can fire, and it ejects the empty shell casing out the side and "auto-loads" the next shell into the chamber for you so all you have to do is keep pulling the trigger and it will keep firing shells until your clip is empty.

Last but not least, we must understand the terms of the "round" or "shell" itself. A live round consists of a "bullet" on the end (usually lead or copper-jacketed lead tip bullets). The "bullet" is the projectile that comes out and does the damage.

Behind the bullet is usally some form of "wadding" material or plastic separator to keep the bullet positioned properly over the top of the gunpowder. The gunpowder is near the bottom of the shell.

On the very bottom there will be a "Primer". The "Primer" is usually a small circular explosive that the "hammer" of the gun falls onto and it explodes upon impact.

The small explosion of the "primer" sets off the main charge of the gunpowder which gives you the big boom and all the explosive gasses force the top lead bullet portion to fly out of the shell casing and head for its target.

The "Shell casing" is usually made of brass or copper for regular bullets, but it can be plastic like in shotgun shells. Shotgun shells can have a single lead slug as a projectile, but typically they will have small BB's inside a shotgun shell and they scatter when leaving the shotgun to cause a "spread of damage".

Shotguns are long guns like rifles and they can be either Semi-automatic variety where the empty shell casings fly out of the gun, or they can be manual type action like a pump-action or lever-action or bolt-action where the person has to manually load the next shell by working the action. In most all cases with shotguns or rifles (either semi-auto or pump-action, bolt-action, or lever-action), they will eject an empty shell casing when loading the next round.

Sorry that kind of got long. Hope this helps some.

Thanks @Hatfield that was a very good explanation. I wonder if Suzanne had any type of gun herself? Likely no opportunity to get it if she did. But what if SM felt in fear for her life and she grabbed a gun which infuriated someone who took it away from her and used it against her in a rage?! All speculation! I remember when taking the gun safety class the instructor saying do not ever point a gun at an attacker or intruder without being willing to aim to shoot & kill if necessary. It would be even more difficult to shoot your husband. Maybe she tried to scare him or stop him so she could get away and things went very sideways? Again just another theory re a shooting scenario...
 
  • #336
Suzanne is beautiful with such a welcoming smile. I find it hard to speak of her in past tense. The person who took her from this world must be living in horrible guilt. I hope he ends all of this very soon.
 
  • #337
So in a case like this, who ultimately calls the shots? If one agency feels that leaking information will help the cause, do they need approval from the others to do so? Where does Sheriff Spezze rank on the ladder?
Sheriff Spezze should be the one in charge up until the case goes to the DA.

If a crime is committed that is a violation of local, state, and federal laws, does the FBI “take over” the investigation?
No. State and local law enforcement agencies are not subordinate to the FBI, and the FBI does not supervise or take over their investigations. Instead, the investigative resources of the FBI and state and local agencies are often pooled in a common effort to investigate and solve the cases. In fact, many task forces composed of FBI agents and state and local officers have been formed to locate fugitives and to address serious threats like terrorism and street violence.

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  • #338
Agreed.
Maybe LE want to know if it was pawned ? :eek:
I have made it clear what side of the fence I'm on but this is just next level! I do see BM losing his temper without a doubt. I just can't imagine anyone would be so depraved as to then remover her jewelry and sell it to a pawn shop?
 
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airing today:

 
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So in a case like this, who ultimately calls the shots? If one agency feels that leaking information will help the cause, do they need approval from the others to do so? Where does Sheriff Spezze rank on the ladder?
Spezze should be in charge. Im sure he takes guidance from others, but this is his case. I dont know how intentional leaks are decided, but it doesnt seem to me that has happened in this case. Although, I could see tidbits of information being dropped and/or eluded to during conversations/interviews. Iirc, the only thing that has been said that would come from LE was the GPS not matching BMs story. However, certain questions by LE and/or knowlege of BMs wherabouts could disprove BMs story story, too. Jmo.
 
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