Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #40

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Or he moved her there from somewhere else.
Right? Did he move her from the property he was working on where they cut the foundation to this property? Likely not, but why are dogs hitting in all the spots BM either works or owns property?
 
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Where the hell are the local reporters???

Massguy is getting frustrated!

Maybe at the wildfires or the Cheyenne Mountain zoo. New giraffe baby born.
 
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I know I have SoCal blinders, but that permit process seems lightning-fast. Less than two weeks from final sale to approved permit?
We wish it worked that way in California!! Half of our Building & Planning Department staffers are still working from home!
 
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To quote @sillybilly

"A thread specific decision has been made by Tricia to allow members to discuss Barry Morphew and to speculate about him based on how he is being publicly treated by LE, information from MSM and other WS approved sources (except rumors). Do NOT sleuth him or his business and do NOT trash him."

Since this property info has been posted now in MSM, you are free to discuss what's been said in MSM.

If this changes, a mod will let you all know.
thank you - just wanted to make sure all our discussion of this property was ok.
 
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Ewww, that was a low blow.

I grew up a Tony Dungy-era Bucs fan. Nothing can hurt me more than my previous life choices. And now my Brady circle of life has become complete.
 
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Well, from my non-lawyer perspective...
even if they screwed up in this search, in the grand scheme of things it has still gotten them closer to where they needed to be in this case. Probably made it pretty tricky for lawyers etc but..
who knows how long it would have taken Barry to start paving the driveway or building a home (for his mother??? disgusting) on her burial site.
moo
 
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Yes, he said her name. I believe it to be the younger of the two but I am not certain.
It was the older of the two, the one in college.
 
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Pump the brakes a bit, y’all. I did this one crazy night and rumors were running rampant. Although I will say that most of the names mentioned at that time turned out to be correct. Except nobody got arrested. I want to hear something local, boots on the ground.
 
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Question. If her remains are found will a next of kin have to identify the body? Or is that just bypassed in these cases, due to them testing the DNA obviously
How can someone identify a decomposed body?
 
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To be fair, they are at least 2 hours away.
I’d love to see a news helicopter up there.

As Arnold would say, “get to the choppa!”
 
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If they did find Suzanne’s body, would it matter legally how it was found? I’m hoping you mean people might be fined for trespassing, but the FINDINGS would still be in play legally for prosecution of Suzanne’s murder. But I don’t know? Yikes!
YES, it makes who found it and how and whether or not there was a violation of BMs 4th Amendment rights. Courts weigh a number of factors in assessing whether the poison of a Constitutional violation has been purge:

o 1. The time period between the illegality and the acquisition of the secondary evidence: The longer the period, the more likely that attenuation will be found.

o 2. The occurrence of intervening events: The more links in the chain between the illegality and the secondary evidence, the more attenuated the connection.

o 3. The flagrancy of the initial illegality: The more deliberate and flagrant the constitutional violation, the more reason there is to suppress all evidence that can be traced back to the illegality.

Conversely where the violation is unintentional and minor, the necessity for deterrence of future misconduct is less compelling. There are exceptions for errors made in good faith (didnt know it was an error) and theres a chance illegally obtained evidence could be brought back under:

· Independent Source Doctrine: Permits introduction of evidence initially discovered during, or as consequence of, unlawful search, but later obtained independently from lawful activities untainted by initial illegality

o When the challenged evidence has an independent source, exclusion of such evidence would put the police in a worse position than they would have been in absent any error or violation.

· Inevitable Discovery Exception: If the police can demonstrate that they inevitably would have discovered the evidence, without a violation of the Fourth Amendment, the exclusionary rule does not apply, and the evidence is admissible

Offending law enforcement officers should not be placed in a better position as a result of an illegality (and must therefore be deprived of the fruits of their violation); but they should not be deprived of evidence that they actually secured through an independent source, or would have inevitably secured, notwithstanding the illegality.

Ive never dealt exclusionary rule issues in practice so i cant speak so how it would play out in court but given PEs experience in LE, they know all the rules and I dont think they would do anything to hurt the admissibility of evidence in this case
 
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MOO he didn't buy the land until soon after Suzanne's death I believe.
I want to know when he first put in an offer and when he signed the contract. It takes time to complete the sale once it's gone into contract.
 
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A second search of the site took place on Monday using different cadaver dogs and the dogs' handler told DailyMail.com they got another hit. The handler explained the dogs only are trained to pick up human scents

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Now the FBI will take over the search and dig up the remains that were found by the dogs
FBI called as scent of human remains discovered on land owned by Suzanne Morphew's husband | Daily Mail Online

I'm wondering if these rocks have significance? as in she's under those?
JMO
I’m still thinking the DM article has many of the facts we already were aware of that Andy reported about the search mingled with embellishment like “dig up the remains that were found by the dogs.” Where is the “wooded site” that is now defined as BM’s property? His new lot looked pretty treeless from pics? I know these pictures in the article may not be of the search on this specific lot he purchased. But. I’m still holding my breath that this is actually all true.
 
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If her body is indeed found there, I hope someone can explain why it took her own brother (from out of state) initiating this search this week to lead to this. How did law enforcement miss this?

I think that is where the comments about “checking egos at the door” mentioned over the weekend by PE? AM? comes in. Hell hath no fury like a grieving brother. There are a number of reasons why LE may have missed something that this search turns up. Most probably related to time and resources. AM had the drive, ability to find the resources, and was able to focus ONLY on his sister. If only every missing person was so “fortunate” :/
 
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Where the hell are the local reporters???

Massguy is getting frustrated!

Beam me up MassGuy... Wish I could head on back... Not that i am a reporter or anything...
 
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Right? Did he move her from the property he was working on where they cut the foundation to this property? Likely not, but why are dogs hitting in all the spots BM either works or owns property?
Chris from P.E. 2 (or 3) nights ago opined that if a piece of machinery, like a bobcat, had been in contact with a deceased human, it's possible that the scent of human remains could be transferred from that machinery to a boulder or some sand being touched by that machinery at another site, afterwards. It's why Chris cautioned the viewers not to get too excited about the river front area with the dog hitting. IMO.
 
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