Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #43

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New info:

*BM called Gene and told him he loved his daughter, and asked him to sign guardianship papers.

* Andy believes it happened in the house, and she was then taken to a second location, hence "abduction." He also believes she was murdered.

*Suzanne was last seen at a sandwich shop (with BM) on Saturday, around 4pm.

*Friend requests went out to Andy's friends around midnight, Saturday night.

*BM was driving around at 4am Sunday morning, texting his workers like crazy from the road.

*EVI did not line up with BM's version of events.

* 3 areas the dogs hit:
-riverfront
-a tree planting
-an addition being put in, in an entrance area with blocks

Get 'em, Andy!!!!
So OP @Hoosierfan72 gave us all the inside scoop regarding the Facebook breach before MSM even had it. Nice!
 
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Something is bugging me. While there are many examples of first responders committing criminal and homicidal acts, I have a hard time buying that additional first responders would either assist or cover up an act by one of their associates, unless something much larger is in play (dirt on other members, threats, financial incentive, etc.) And the old "two can keep a secret if one of them is dead" comes into play. If a confederate appears to be weakening or ready to go to LE, what would be the reaction of the other confederate(s) or the actor? I just can't connect the dots on this....yet.
 
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I have zero reason to believe AM would knowingly disclose any information that would threaten the integrity of this investigation into locating his sister, and who disappeared her.

ETA: further, I'm not even convinced AM actually even has any information that could threaten the intrigrity of the investigation. He obviously knows more than the public does, but that doesn't mean it's classified info - just stuff we haven't heard yet.

jmo

I never said or implied he did or would threaten the integrity of the investigation. Andy has told some things that LE hasn't disclosed to the public directly. That fact is what I'm noting and I don't believe Andy would do so unless it was ok with the investigators. IMO
 
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Eh, I don't believe he's leaking any info. I think he's just revealing his own thoughts publicly and putting together his own timeline based on information he's gathered. IMO
I consider disclosing that BM was reported to be texting while driving to Broomfield around 4am, trying to pull a crew together a detail that had not been made public before. I call it an intentional leak. Not to harm the investigation, no. But he is putting out the info that wasn't out previously. My assumption is that he isn't doing this against LE's wishes. IMO

ETA: the word "leak" might the issue. There are many synonyms which can be used in its place if one prefers: disclose, announce, divulge, affirm, profess, say, tell, reveal, just to name a few.
 
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MOO, but let’s say that LS in her interviews with BM, MG, and JP has gathered a lot more info than she has released in her stories. Is there a possibility that she could be called as a witness in a trial and thus has been asked to step away from this case as not to taint any reputation she may have as a witness?

That could explain the immediate silence and not being allowed to talk about it. And it seemed to happen right on the heels of her last BM interview.

This is an intriguing idea.

Generally, the Colorado Press Shield Law would prevent LM from being forced to testify about unpublished information from news source that she gathered in her capacity as a reporter. But there are exceptions, and if your speculation touches on the truth, the information LE is after could be very significant. The exceptions are in red, bold type:

"C.R.S. § 13-90-119

(2) Notwithstanding any other provision of law to the contrary and except as provided in subsection (3) of this section, no newsperson shall, without such newsperson's express consent, be compelled to disclose, be examined concerning refusal to disclose, be subjected to any legal presumption of any kind, or be cited, held in contempt, punished, or subjected to any sanction in any judicial proceedings for refusal to disclose any news information received, observed, procured, processed, prepared, written, or edited by a newsperson, while acting in the capacity of a newsperson; except that the privilege of nondisclosure shall not apply to the following:

(a) News information received at a press conference;

(b) News information which has actually been published or broadcast through a medium of mass communication;

(c) News information based on a newsperson's personal observation of the commission of a crime if substantially similar news information cannot reasonably be obtained by any other means;

(d) News information based on a newsperson's personal observation of the commission of a class 1, 2, or 3 felony.


(3) Notwithstanding the privilege of nondisclosure granted in subsection (2) of this section, any party to a proceeding who is otherwise authorized by law to issue or obtain subpoenas may subpoena a newsperson in order to obtain news information by establishing by a preponderance of the evidence, in opposition to a newsperson's motion to quash such subpoena:

(a) That the news information is directly relevant to a substantial issue involved in the proceeding;

(b) That the news information cannot be obtained by any other reasonable means; and

(c) That a strong interest of the party seeking to subpoena the newsperson outweighs the interests under the first amendment to the United States constitution of such newsperson in not responding to a subpoena and of the general public in receiving news information.


(4) The privilege of nondisclosure established by subsection (2) of this section may be waived only by the voluntary testimony or disclosure of a newsperson that directly addresses the news information or identifies the source of such news information sought. A publication or broadcast of a news report through the mass media concerning the subject area of the news information sought, but which does not directly address the specific news information sought, shall not be deemed a waiver of the privilege of nondisclosure as to such specific news information."

LS certainly knows more than she has shared in her stories and interviews, but what could she know that is directly relevant to a substantial issue involved in the investigation, that is so important to LE that the interest in bringing SM's killer to justice outweighs the press freedom clause of the Constitution?

Even more intriguing - what serious crime could she have observed personally?
 
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Something is bugging me. While there are many examples of first responders committing criminal and homicidal acts, I have a hard time buying that additional first responders would either assist or cover up an act by one of their associates, unless something much larger is in play (dirt on other members, threats, financial incentive, etc.) And the old "two can keep a secret if one of them is dead" comes into play. If a confederate appears to be weakening or ready to go to LE, what would be the reaction of the other confederate(s) or the actor? I just can't connect the dots on this....yet.
Yeah, the only way that works, is if both parties are involved in another illegal activity together.
Moo
 
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That frustrating timeline has done a bit of a two-step all along. First it was 9pm, then it was 12:30 and then once again it shifted to 8am. It's kind of impossible to put the pieces together when someone keeps moving the pieces. :mad:

I'd love to see a statement from THE FRIEND that she was messaging, to find out exactly what time (Colorado time) that conversation abruptly ended, with no further contact.
The audacity of calling Suzannes father saying ...I loved your daughter, now please sign these papers! Just when I think he can't get any lower... he takes a knee.
 
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Jumping in here re: the Facebook activity.

It appears that two different things happened re: Facebook that weekend.

Additionally, that same weekend, I believe AM referenced that some of his friends (I believe these were likely males) received friend requests from SM late on Saturday evening (around midnight). My DW knows one of these individuals, and he had no direct connection to either SM or BM (other than also being from Alexandria and was friends with AM). This is just bizarre and I don't have any great thoughts as to what it means.

All MOO.
** Speculation Alert **
So, could this somewhat indicate the window of opportunity. The facebook activity...and then the 4 am calls to round up the work crew?
 
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The audacity of calling Suzannes father saying ...I loved your daughter, now please sign these papers! Just when I think he can't get any lower... he takes a knee.
ItA.
Two things.
1. He doesn't have a clue how he comes across to others. That's how he's made.
2. Those papers were very important to him. Motive, money.
Moo
 
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** Speculation Alert **
So, could this somewhat indicate the window of opportunity. The facebook activity...and then the 4 am calls to round up the work crew?

Your point, of the window of opportunity, made me think about when it opens and when it closes.

The odd FB activity around midnight, when he may have used his phone to login to Suzanne's account, will show his location. After that, if his phone is turned off, his window opens.

Then he is reported to be texting his employee at 4am. His phone is on, his location is known. His window shuts.

Speculation, all moo.
 
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I consider disclosing that BM was reported to be texting while driving to Broomfield around 4am, trying to pull a crew together a detail that had not been made public before. I call it an intentional leak. Not to harm the investigation, no. But he is putting out the info that wasn't out previously. My assumption is that he isn't doing this against LE's wishes. IMO

ETA: the word "leak" might the issue. There are many synonyms which can be used in its place if one prefers: disclose, announce, divulge, affirm, profess, say, tell, reveal, just to name a few.

I understand your point. I'm just still of the opinion that any info AM is getting, it's not coming from LE. I believe AM is getting info because he's talking to people who are sharing with him what they know. For me personally, I know better to take it all as fact but I do believe he's sitting on some solid info.

I believe once he started talking publicly, people probably started to reach out to him as well. He's been able to put his own timeline together based on conversations he's had with people and probably with LS released info. Because I don't believe LE is sharing info with him, I also don't believe they would give him a nod or not to go public with any of it. There are many here who believe otherwise and I could be way off track. IMO
 
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While the PE Guys and their teasing of ‘we know more but can’t tell you but here’s a cryptic clue’ is starting to drive me crazy, I can’t help but take a guess.

They are speaking directly to BM and referencing 5 and Bruce Lee (like a 5 finger/pronged take down) Then Chris apparently references 5 again in relation to an upcoming press conference or press release.

Considering that we haven’t exactly seen much in the way of press conferences or press releases in this case, I think the event Chris is referring to will be the announcement that BM has been arrested. The five will refer to:

1. CCSO
2. CBI
3. FBI
4. Local DA
5. Federal DA

And the charges will be more than just murder.
Yes, I still think they are referring to an arrest. The Bruce Lee reference points to the final defeat of the "enemy," after a long struggle. Why else would they say to keep waiting and hoping for it?

I think they truly believed the search had finally led to enough evidence and that Suzanne's body would be found.
 
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Yes, I still think they are referring to an arrest. The Bruce Lee reference points to the final defeat of the "enemy," after a long struggle. Why else would they say to keep waiting and hoping for it?

I think they truly believed the search had finally led to enough evidence and that Suzanne's body would be found.
Sadly, I can only agree with half of your post :(. No offence meant. I think she is too well hidden. But I agree 100% that the final defeat is nigh at the door and Andy’s valiant effort (and all those that contributed physically and monetarily) got people talking and things have been disclosed that will bring this to an arrest of “you know who! MOO
 
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Something is bugging me. While there are many examples of first responders committing criminal and homicidal acts, I have a hard time buying that additional first responders would either assist or cover up an act by one of their associates, unless something much larger is in play (dirt on other members, threats, financial incentive, etc.) And the old "two can keep a secret if one of them is dead" comes into play. If a confederate appears to be weakening or ready to go to LE, what would be the reaction of the other confederate(s) or the actor? I just can't connect the dots on this....yet.

I too have a hard time believing that others would knowingly help the new guy in a cover up.
The following is what I could somehow believe. It’s all hypothetical:

By the time the crew came back Tuesday (?) morning it became obvious LE would not believe the bike ride. In that scenario BM could call his buddy and say:
Look, I feel they are focusing on me and there is a problem. I work with some people who are meth heads and you know, one of them is even a woman. Listen bro, in Salida the people are saying we have something going which is not true, but because of the gossip this is really a pain ITA. I should pay her, but maybe people would say I’m trying to buy her silence off with that money. I can’t go talk to her because I don’t want to be seen with her and I really don’t know what to do. We did have some flirty exchange on the phone which would all make it all the more complicated if LE found out. Then I would totally hang.... Listen bro, you know me, I’m a good guy, my wife just went missing and can’t deel with this. I’m going mad.

So the buddy feels for him and says:
Listen, I go talk to her. I know her already a long time, don’t worry. I know you are a good person. I‘ve got this.
And then TN tags along because BM plays the same with him and because maybe he looks more approachable(which I don’t know to be true) and MG would most likely talk with him. Or because TN knows her from somewhere.

Do I know this to be true? Absolutely not! It’s just a hypothetical situation.
Is it possible GD and TN are more involved than this? Could be.
 
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I understand your point. I'm just still of the opinion that any info AM is getting, it's not coming from LE. I believe AM is getting info because he's talking to people who are sharing with him what they know. For me personally, I know better to take it all as fact but I do believe he's sitting on some solid info.

I believe once he started talking publicly, people probably started to reach out to him as well. He's been able to put his own timeline together based on conversations he's had with people and probably with LS released info. Because I don't believe LE is sharing info with him, I also don't believe they would give him a nod or not to go public with any of it. There are many here who believe otherwise and I could be way off track. IMO
Thanks for making this good point. With one exception, AM says an investigator told him that the home smelled of bleach. Everything else could have come from contacts with local residents.

I could see how people would have reached out to him when he was in Salida, to help him with his search for answers and to reassure him that information has been turned over.
Moo
 
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Thanks for making this good point. With one exception, AM says an investigator told his that the home smelled of bleach. Everything else could have come from contacts with local residents.

I could see how people would have reached out to him when he was in Salida, to help him with his search for answers and to reassure him that information has been turned over.
Moo

As soon as I posted my response, I thought about the bolded and AM also saying, IIRC, he was told by LE that BM refused a polygraph and voice analysis. IMO
 
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Seems that the Facebook friending spree is either a panic move or an indication of terribly planned premeditation.

Either way, sloppiness is usually a great boon for those seeking evidentiary matter.
 
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