Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #45

[Ontario Mom]

I am with those that agree, I think BM was upset she shared her phone with LE.

Handing the phone over doesn’t convince me of her credibility though. She may have erased and deleted data from the phone and been unaware that LE can dig really deep into the bits and bytes.

I will admit she was believable in the LS interview. I am not yet completely convinced that she doesn’t have some additional knowledge than she has not shared. (Though it is possible that she has shared more with LE, and we just don’t know.)

jmo

I suspect she has in fact shared a lot of info with LE that we know nothing about. Yet.

 

[MassGuy]

I've been wondering just how Barry knew MG did hand over her phone to LE without her telling him. LE would be able to download everything from that phone with some special software, so the phone wouldn't have to be out of her possession for too long, maybe a day, maybe 2 at the most?

The only way I can determine BM would know she was cooperating with LE was if she told him or told someone who then told BM. I can't imagine why she'd think telling Barry (or anyone else) she met with the CBI and handed over her phone was a good idea. That would trigger him, and she had to be aware it would since she knew he didn't want her to cooperate with LE.

IMO

So I imagine BM and MG were interviewed very early on. We do know that Barry has claimed 30 hours of interviews.

In an effort to turn the screws on Barry, they may have mentioned things they had gleaned from her phone.

So that’s one way he could have known.

 

[NoSI]

I'm not certain that is the item found. I don't think anyone really knows, but it is alleged to be the item (by PE?).

What I find difficult to wrap my head around is IF that is the item, it's pretty coincidental that the item BM was asking about and looking for in the dumpster was also her helmet. I have to wonder if LE didn't find out from that same Poncha Market manager about BM looking for that item, and then allege to the public that it was the helmet, to cause some discomfort for the (alleged) POI.

JMO.

Yup, the helmet is the personal item that was found. I don't know for sure if that was included in articles. They were talking about the helmet and where it was found at the search.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I've been wondering just how Barry knew MG did hand over her phone to LE without her telling him. LE would be able to download everything from that phone with some special software, so the phone wouldn't have to be out of her possession for too long, maybe a day, maybe 2 at the most?

The only way I can determine BM would know she was cooperating with LE was if she told him or told someone who then told BM. I can't imagine why she'd think telling Barry (or anyone else) she met with the CBI and handed over her phone was a good idea. That would trigger him, and she had to be aware it would since she knew he didn't want her to cooperate with LE.

IMO

It could have been as simple as him texting her and through that conversation she tells him she handed over her phone, and however he worded it, he fired her. All in the very same text conversation that she said they did have, when he fired her:

"She also turned over her phone, but said she declined a polygraph. “I know my rights and I don’t have anything to hide,” she said. She says she heard from Barry again, days after, through text. “He fired me because I gave up my phone, I wasn’t staying quiet and I was complying with CBI,” “I’m not the other woman”: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

 

[PaulaDC]

I totally agree.

We know they vacationed to areas like that prior to moving and here is the thing. Whenever you go on vacation to a certain exotic place that seems wonderful, what you dont realize until you really start to think through things is that the place you are visiting may be wonderful to visit and stay a little while, but its an entirely different thing when actually moving there.

Like going on a nice Florida beach vacation. Its wonderful. But do you really want to live where it is pretty hot most of the time, large flying Palmetto bugs that scare the begeezus out of you, alligators commonly seen in the waters, etc. It becomes an entirely different set of considerations and may not seem so great if you have to live there.

Same for places with large "real mountains" as I call them in Colorado. Huge real mountains with wilderness all around. A relatively cold climate with a short summer season, lots of snowfalls, and so on and so forth. When actually living there, it sometimes is not so welcoming to certain people.

So I do agree that the choice to move there was mainly his and not hers. I think those two years were enough for her there and I suspect she did not enjoy it there anymore. Combine that with whatever may have happened in their relationship, and I feel she wanted out of there.
All JMO of course.

I appreciate you scaring all who want to move to Florida. Between your comments and diamondbacks, hurricanes and our state slowly going underwater we truly don't need more people. I'd name the nutty politicians to add some extra fear but that's off limits on WS.

 

[NatureLover]

Actually, she couldn't possibly have known him that long unless she also worked for one of his several companies in Indiana.

Part of your premise is that BM has a stable mode of being and a stable personality, but we don't know that. MG can't know that - she doesn't live with him, has only seen him in fairly recent work contexts.

If in fact he has cycles of moodiness or a mood disorder or any number of other things going on (starts things, doesn't finish, does them poorly, gets mad, takes on too much at one time, etc., etc), then perhaps other employees have eventually learned...BM isn't always organized. MG herself may not be a particularly organized person, therefore wouldn't notice right away.

At any rate, I don't think it will be easy to make this point at trial, should it come to that. I guess I'm saying that MG might make a poor witness in future, but that others closer to BM might know him better. The person who knew him best was SM and she's missing.

I of course agree that BM's failure to organize on that particular day is extremely telling, but I do wonder just how often usual things happened around him or because of him. If it's true that his "workers" were people he met casually (and who might not have been able to find lots of other work), he may have initially seemed like a good employer, but for all MG knows (or we know), BM is more erratic than he first appears. I see him as more of a fast talker than as a dedicated, organized businessman - can't say why I think that.

Since Barry is/was part of a hunting group of some sort, and had been out west many times to hunt, I have wondered if he met MG many years before the Ms moved there. JMO

Also, I'm sure SM was the glue that held it all together. She's the one that made BM look like more like a businessman than a fast talker. Now that she's gone all that's left is the fast talker... MOO

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Because

Why do you think he had a young attractive female employee around him he hired and used so much ? We hire manpower out of the union hall ( pay living wage)and take whoever shows up-Oh yea- I'm gonna ask the hall for a young fertile single broke strung out foxy female- probably get blackballed and my wife called-- if not arrested----IMO Motown

Because women are reliable maybe? I see lots of landscape crews in the Midwest with women.

 

[steeltowngirl]

000 Confidential Ave?

000 Confidential Ave. Poncha Springs CO 81242 - MLS 4727659 - Ashford

“property address withheld at sellers request”

PPAR.com Property Report

 

[marylamby]

000 Confidential Ave?

000 Confidential Ave. Poncha Springs CO 81242 - MLS 4727659 - Ashford

“property address withheld at sellers request”

PPAR.com Property Report

So, did he have it taken down from mls, sell the property or decide not to sell but some sites are slow to take it down?

 

[OldCop]

While I agree, I also have to say, the way BM immediately threw her under the bus, certainly indicates to me she likely was fired because she cooperated with LE into this investigation.

I do suspect there was something incriminating on her phone that BM did NOT want LE to see (guilty or not) and it ticked him off that she handed it over them.

And that says a lot about her credibility as it relates to this case.

all entirely jmo

Yes!^^^^^

 

[steeltowngirl]

So, did he have it taken down from mls, sell the property or decide not to sell but some sites are slow to take it down?

Still for sale, just more privately.

Annoying though, even this Sotheby’s site points to a map location in Poncha Springs. Which isn’t accurate. No mention in the ad that anyone is “terrified to enter” either.

Poncha Springs, Colorado, United States – Luxury Home For Sale

 

[Trocroc9]

MG moving so far away and stating her fear of BM is telling. Only thing I can reason that she is so afraid is because she has something on him. Something good and solid. What is it I wonder? Jmo

 

[OldCop]

000 Confidential Ave?

000 Confidential Ave. Poncha Springs CO 81242 - MLS 4727659 - Ashford

“property address withheld at sellers request”

PPAR.com Property Report

Wow!

 

[MassGuy]

MG moving so far away and stating her fear of BM is telling. Only thing I can reason that she is so afraid is because she has something on him. Something good and solid. What is it I wonder? Jmo

Absolutely. She was supposedly a long time employee of his, whatever that means. She left for a reason, and said she was scared of him.

They were fine up until that weekend, when she left for that wall job.

She has to have told CBI incriminating information.

 

[Madeleine74]

IF LE disclosed things to BM from their interview with MG or that she allowed them to have her phone, I consider that pretty bad.

MG said she's afraid of BM, and if a man murdered his wife, what would stop him from harming another person who betrayed him and went against his wishes?

I know, it's water under the bridge now, and she moved out of state. But I don't consider BM the most stable person and we know MG would be a key witness at a future trial, so her safety is important. IMO

 

[LandManatee]

Profiling Evil commented ‘Interesting’ on a picture where someone pointed out that the 2 trees that were once in front of the Morphew house, are now gone in the recent listing pics.

MOO

ETA: The file size was originally too large and I could not upload it here. I went about it another way and was able to now include the pic. Sorry if it comes in a little small. I marked up the pic to point out the trees in question.

It is very interesting though. Why would these 2 trees be removed?

 

[marylamby]

IF LE disclosed things to BM from their interview with MG or that she allowed them to have her phone, I consider that pretty bad.

MG said she's afraid of BM, and if a man murdered his wife, what would stop him from harming another person who betrayed him and went against his wishes?

I know, it's water under the bridge now, and she moved out of state. But I don't consider BM the most stable person and we know MG would be a key witness at a future trial, so her safety is important. IMO

I think it's self-preservation that she did give up the phone. As far as what she knows - it may or may not be relative to murder but more about other activities that she's holding back (possibly due to involvement or not) and using that as leverage.

 

[tmar]

IF LE disclosed things to BM from their interview with MG or that she allowed them to have her phone, I consider that pretty bad.

MG said she's afraid of BM, and if a man murdered his wife, what would stop him from harming another person who betrayed him and went against his wishes?

I know, it's water under the bridge now, and she moved out of state. But I don't consider BM the most stable person and we know MG would be a key witness at a future trial, so her safety is important. IMO

If MG was to go, it would be a staged accident.
BUT BM has to find her first and GPS would alert LE, as they know where MG resides.
Surely, BM is not that crazy.
MOO.

 

[Love Never Fails]

So I imagine BM and MG were interviewed very early on. We do know that Barry has claimed 30 hours of interviews.

In an effort to turn the screws on Barry, they may have mentioned things they had gleaned from her phone.

So that’s one way he could have known.

It’s also possible because they were both interviewed right away, MG didn’t think of either of them being suspect and she told BM she was interviewed. Maybe his reaction scared her, coupled with what the two guys told her that if she got paid it would look like hush money.

I think I would leave town too. And since BM had the appearance of being wealthy, she was afraid he could pay someone to disappear her.

 

[OldCop]

BM left a hotel cart full of tools in Broomfield. Do we know who returned them to BM and when?

No. This was brought up once before. I wonder if LE got a SW for them. I wonder if they smelled like bleach........