Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #46

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  • #361
Anyone else heard anything since Monday regarding the Indiana pizza place and white truck tidbits that Chris and Mike dropped as hints on PE? Never did hear anything about the number 5 either. I almost can’t watch anymore. But still curious about this stuff. <modsnip>
 
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  • #362
Did barry tell the people at the market why he was looking for a helmet and did he leave a contact number in case they did find one? or did he just leave a note with bike helmet etc on it? if that latter then that's just weird.

“He went to write down a description of maybe what she was wearing,” Butala said. “I just thought it was weird because he didn’t explain the color of her eyes were or her hair or anything about her like how tall she was or anything.” “People don’t know the truth”: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado

I haven't seen any mention of a phone number or contact to get ahold of but I can't imagine he didn't say something about contacting the CCSO.
 
  • #363
The thing that bothers me about the cooler missing is that, in my circle, no one will use a cooler that is used to bring home a deer, for a picnic or camping.
We have different coolers for foods and drinks.
Maybe we're just picky.
Moo
Agreed. Same here. Even if skinned quail breasts are brought home in a small cooler, that cooler is now exclusively a “bird cooler”. Which is why we have dozens of coolers!
 
  • #364
Agreed. Same here. Even if skinned quail breasts are brought home in a small cooler, that cooler is now exclusively a “bird cooler”. Which is why we have dozens of coolers!
Absolutely. So where was his big ole hunting cooler?
Moo of course.
 
  • #365
The problem with an arrest so close to election day is that there's the chance that the news of it will get "drowned out" by other election news. There's also no guarantee that any sort of hearing will occur before election day if the arrest is too close to election day.

In Colorado cases of Murder In The First Degree, the initial hearing (sometimes called "Advisement") can be televised, but is generally quite dull for the viewing audience. A candidate for District Prosecutor might get more election "bounce" out of a short commercial clip showing the candidate plugging a parking meter and smiling confidently before entering the courthouse. IMO
 
  • #366
Agreed. Same here. Even if skinned quail breasts are brought home in a small cooler, that cooler is now exclusively a “bird cooler”. Which is why we have dozens of coolers!

Talk about exclusive... my fishing coolers. Wow.
 
  • #367
no problem, guardianship is an odd and minimally used area of law, happy too help translate the legalese into actual English lol. The good news is regardless of who is guardian, they are required to file very regular paper work with the court and meet with them on a regular basis to go over the estate, so theoretically one couldnt do too much damage if they had ill intent
my state only requires an annual accounting - unless it is a "locked" account - which offers the most control as the guardian has to petition the court to spend the money from it and explain why. then the Order is taken to the bank and a cashiers check is given (my experience with Chase bank and a locked account). Somehow, I don't think this IN Judge specified a locked account or any supervision of her assets - IMO.
 
  • #368
Legal eagles, can a spouse of a missing (incapacitated) mate circumvent a POA (which names a DIFFERENT person as POA) by filing for temporary guardianship in a different state/court?

Might Suzanne have changed her POA? Who would know? How would a court in INDIANA know?

Might GM have been Suzanne's POA, and that's what BM wanted him to sign away, assign back to BM? Or as POA, sign guardianship papers?

Trying to make sense of what happened...

JMO
 
  • #369
Right. Bigger question is why would he care about that? His wife was abducted. What does a picture of the master or kitchen matter?

I'm trying to get in his head, to understand his logic. Most agents will defer to a client's request of no pictures, regardless of the fact it's a deal killer for a swift sale. I look at the images he does allow and the house appears bleak and dreary, nothing how a home with 20 foot high windows should look. The room images absent are the rooms that SM probably spent most of her time, cooking for her family and sleeping. He can't bear to look at them. The pics don't even look professionally done. It looks like a foreclosed home. Is it listed nationally or locally?
 
  • #370
New timeline:
At 5:46 pm on May 10, 2020, SM was reported missing.
Isn't that the truth?? I feel like we know hardly anything ...again...
JMO
 
  • #371
Legal eagles, can a spouse of a missing (incapacitated) mate circumvent a POA (which names a DIFFERENT person as POA) by filing for temporary guardianship in a different state/court?

Might Suzanne have changed her POA? Who would know? How would a court in INDIANA know?

Might GM have been Suzanne's POA, and that's what BM wanted him to sign away, assign back to BM? Or as POA, sign guardianship papers?

Trying to make sense of what happened...

JMO
In my state - your POA does not get recorded so the only people that know about it are the two people involved - in this case, if she had a current POA - her attorney in fact would be _________? (Insert who you think she may have had - her dad, brother, her bff?) Now, if her father was named her POA - he would likely know if she told him (He may even have the original document because he would need that to conduct her business -at least in my state). If somehow the husband found out about this - what would he do? She's missing so she can't change her POA. He may call a lawyer and ask what can be done and the lawyer might suggest guardianship. As I've mentioned before, I have never heard of a guardianship granted on behalf of a missing Ward. Also, in my state, a POA does not translate into a guardianship - it's a separate action in the courts (and expensive) - however, if the potential guardian had the POA it certainly helps in convincing the Judge they should be named as guardian - particularly in a contested guardianship. In this case, if the POA had language in it that the POA could be used if the person was missing - a guardianship would not be necessary - our latest POA's do have this language - I am ambivalent about it - I follow too many missing woman who end up dead at the hand of their spouse or SO and I would not want to enable them any further - but that 's just me. Personally, I don't think she had a current POA.
All JMO
 
  • #372
In my state - your POA does not get recorded so the only people that know about it are the two people involved - in this case, if she had a current POA - her attorney in fact would be _________? (Insert who you think she may have had - her dad, brother, her bff?) Now, if her father was named her POA - he would likely know if she told him (He may even have the original document because he would need that to conduct her business -at least in my state). If somehow the husband found out about this - what would he do? She's missing so she can't change her POA. He may call a lawyer and ask what can be done and the lawyer might suggest guardianship. As I've mentioned before, I have never heard of a guardianship granted on behalf of a missing Ward. Also, in my state, a POA does not translate into a guardianship - it's a separate action in the courts (and expensive) - however, if the potential guardian had the POA it certainly helps in convincing the Judge they should be named as guardian - particularly in a contested guardianship. In this case, if the POA had language in it that the POA could be used if the person was missing - a guardianship would not be necessary - our latest POA's do have this language - I am ambivalent about it - I follow too many missing woman who end up dead at the hand of their spouse or SO and I would not want to enable them any further - but that 's just me. Personally, I don't think she had a current POA.
All JMO

Thank you for your answer. So glad you're here to explain things!

IF she had changed her POA, would this explain why BM would call GM to get POA to declare guardianship, and when GM said no, GM thought the matter was settled and that BM was thwarted, only to be notified later that BM found another way?

I wish the court were obligated to appoint a representative to speak for Suzanne and protect her interests. :( Because the person who the court granted her guardianship to doesnn't seem to have her interests at heart, only his, and may have, in fact, caused her to be incapacitated in the first place.

Waiting on justice

JMO
 
  • #373
Thank you for your answer. So glad you're here to explain things!

IF she had changed her POA, would this explain why BM would call GM to get POA to declare guardianship, and when GM said no, GM thought the matter was settled and that BM was thwarted, only to be notified later that BM found another way?

I wish the court were obligated to appoint a representative to speak for Suzanne and protect her interests. :( Because the person who the court granted her guardianship to doesnn't seem to have her interests at heart, only his, and may have, in fact, caused her to be incapacitated in the first place.

Waiting on justice

JMO
If she had a current POA which did not name her husband as her attorney-in-fact but named another relative of hers - and the husband was aware of this - then yes, IMO he may call that attorney-in-fact named and ask for their support in a guardianship. But I really don't think she did. I think they used POA's for one-time transactions IMO. I do think that after consulting with a guardianship attorney, the husband may have contacted her father to make them aware and ask for consent to avoid having his adult daughter involved. But I also think the Judge may have required him to get the adult daughter's consent because that is how I read the statute - as our attorney's have told me on more than one occasion - you stop when you get to what you need - as in, if the adult child is first as far as notice goes, then you get their waiver and consent or give formal notice. Now if the adult child is unable to provide consent, you go to the next person and that would be a parent.

I don't think this would happen in my state as we do require the Ward to be represented by court provided counsel if they don't have their own attorney - of course we also require a finding of incapacity after 3 medical professionals examine the Ward.
JMO
 
  • #374
Agreed. Same here. Even if skinned quail breasts are brought home in a small cooler, that cooler is now exclusively a “bird cooler”. Which is why we have dozens of coolers!

Same here. I have around five coolers of various sizes and one of the large ones is marked with a Sharpie for fish and game.
 
  • #375
I have recently had a bad experience with a business that is located in the Salida/Poncha Springs area. I am not going to provide any further details but I will say what occurred was grimy. It seems this area may be a little hidden mecca for some of the questionable characters in our society. Like another poster, whose name I cannot recall, has indicated several times, I think there may be a lot more to this.
Was this a business that deals with homeowners providing a service? If so there are many shady folk everywhere as far as I know. Very interesting comment about "....there may be a lot more to this"...do tell a little more about your experience please , if not at least expand on".... a lot more to this..." and why or what u suspect.
 
  • #376
Possibly. Or maybe Barry just listed it to give online sleuths a piece of meat to chew on while he busied himself with something else. I'm not saying this is what he definitely did, just that it's possible. After all, if he can "bait" deer with corn/oats (a class C misdemeanor in Indiana, btw, which makes me doubt that he intends to do that here), then he can certainly "bait" online sleuths with an online real estate listing.
That would be a lot of effort to put forth. I'm going to say his motive is financial and the timing is driven by fear of an arrest.

Let's say Barry is arrested for the murder of Suzanne and the PC Affidavit states it happened in the home. There would be an impact to the value, so IMO he's trying to stay ahead of the wave of repercussions that are coming his way.
 
  • #377
If she had a current POA which did not name her husband as her attorney-in-fact but named another relative of hers - and the husband was aware of this - then yes, IMO he may call that attorney-in-fact named and ask for their support in a guardianship. But I really don't think she did. I think they used POA's for one-time transactions IMO. I do think that after consulting with a guardianship attorney, the husband may have contacted her father to make them aware and ask for consent to avoid having his adult daughter involved. But I also think the Judge may have required him to get the adult daughter's consent because that is how I read the statute - as our attorney's have told me on more than one occasion - you stop when you get to what you need - as in, if the adult child is first as far as notice goes, then you get their waiver and consent or give formal notice. Now if the adult child is unable to provide consent, you go to the next person and that would be a parent.

I don't think this would happen in my state as we do require the Ward to be represented by court provided counsel if they don't have their own attorney - of course we also require a finding of incapacity after 3 medical professionals examine the Ward.
JMO
Can I ask why IYO, he would want to avoid having an adult daughter involved? When someone avoids straight lines there's a reason?
 
  • #378
I have recently had a bad experience with a business that is located in the Salida/Poncha Springs area. I am not going to provide any further details but I will say what occurred was grimy. It seems this area may be a little hidden mecca for some of the questionable characters in our society. Like another poster, whose name I cannot recall, has indicated several times, I think there may be a lot more to this.

Yes, please. Do tell. (No names, of course). ;)
 
  • #379
Can I ask why IYO, he would want to avoid having an adult daughter involved? When someone avoids straight lines there's a reason?
IMO not involving the adult child in a guardianship would prevent that adult child from knowing what was going on - that adult child could object, refuse to sign the waiver of notice and then the Court and the proposed guardian would have to serve the adult child with every petition. In my state, we would call that an adversarial action and then we treat it as we would any regular civil lawsuit and the rules of civil procedure are invoked. In this case, I think he did not want her to know what he planned to do IMO.
 
  • #380
I wonder if the M's little teardrop of land in the middle of a vast forest concerned SM at all. I think you would expect to see all kinds of wildlife crossing your property.

Fire must be frightening too when your home is surrounded by trees.

Could SM see anything at all from the upper windows or did trees block her view?

There she was all alone probably for hours on end when he was at work and the girls were busy. Perhaps she was happy with that life..perhaps she wasn’t.

She never got a chance to see the girls married or maybe to have grandchildren. Somebody took that away from her. It is just so sad.
 
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