Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #51

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  • #861
You’re very welcome, although I don’t think I helped much! LOL

From looking, I think BM started it after his coworkers started talking. I mean he obviously had to make sure the public understood just how unreliable they are :rolleyes: JMO.
You make a point. He really does seem to try extra hard to prove he’s innocent. In reality I think most people would of just rise above it and ignored it if you are truly innocent ?

MOO
 
  • #862
Wouldn't LE have already pressured or contacted his acquaintances, reminding them of what being an accessory means? I would think that would have shut some up, caused some to move out of town, IMO. Some may be cocky enough to not be concerned.

I am still intrigued of there request for SM's social media contacts to be forthcoming.

Yes! I think it's a big deal for this tightlipped Sheriff's office to give this specific detail about their investigation. I honestly don't think this part is about BM. This is about who SM was interacting with on social media apps. The plea to the friends to come forward with info, even if you think it will get someone in trouble. Sure, on social media you talk to people you know in life, you also chat with people you don't know, at all. Which is kind of the point.

I strongly believe that BM is not the only suspect in this case. Maybe he still is today, maybe he's been cleared. Maybe there are others on that list, like someone she could have been interacting with on these named social media apps. I also don't think this was a random stranger that happened upon her. Known to her maybe. IMO

In one aspect of the case, the task force continues to focus on Suzanne Morphew’s social media presence as part of the investigation. Investigators say Suzanne kept in touch with friends she loved dearly. They also believe that sometimes in these types of cases that people don’t come forward with information for concern that they may get someone in trouble. To those who may be fearful to come forward, they can reach out anonymously. Once investigators know your concerns, they can address them.

Anyone who may have engaged with Suzanne on Facebook, Instagram, Voxer, FaceTime or WhatsApp and would like to share new information or come forward if they haven’t been interviewed is asked to contact the Suzanne Morphew tip line, regardless of how insignificant you think the information may be, or whether you think investigators are already aware of it.

Suzanne Morphew case remains a priority to the Chaffee County Sheriff’s Office - Chaffee County Sheriff
 
  • #863
The hotel room has been something that is bugging me. The fact he was even in that room is strange to me? Also, I just cleaned my tiolet with one of those huge bleach tablets ...I swear it smells like an indoor pool in my bathroom!! My point being it could of very well been lots of bleach and nothing to do with chlorine,

I may have the cleanest toilet ever right now though lol

MOO
 
  • #864
Yes! I think it's a big deal for this tightlipped Sheriff's office to give this specific detail about their investigation. I honestly don't think this part is about BM. This is about who SM was interacting with on social media apps. The plea to the friends to come forward with info, even if you think it will get someone in trouble. Sure, on social media you talk to people you know in life, you also chat with people you don't know, at all. Which is kind of the point.

I strongly believe that BM is not the only suspect in this case. Maybe he still is today, maybe he's been cleared. Maybe there are others on that list, like someone she could have been interacting with on these named social media apps. I also don't think this was a random stranger that happened upon her. Known to her maybe. IMO

In one aspect of the case, the task force continues to focus on Suzanne Morphew’s social media presence as part of the investigation. Investigators say Suzanne kept in touch with friends she loved dearly. They also believe that sometimes in these types of cases that people don’t come forward with information for concern that they may get someone in trouble. To those who may be fearful to come forward, they can reach out anonymously. Once investigators know your concerns, they can address them.

Anyone who may have engaged with Suzanne on Facebook, Instagram, Voxer, FaceTime or WhatsApp and would like to share new information or come forward if they haven’t been interviewed is asked to contact the Suzanne Morphew tip line, regardless of how insignificant you think the information may be, or whether you think investigators are already aware of it.

Suzanne Morphew case remains a priority to the Chaffee County Sheriff’s Office - Chaffee County Sheriff
If Barry was cleared LE would let that known I think. I do agree with you though about the social media request and I think you have great points!
MOO
 
  • #865
Thanks for the breakdown, @Ontario Mom. Couple of thoughts on your thoughts:

1) I am thinking that it may have been volunteer FF Tim Nelson who called George Davis. He was the one who spoke out because the FF’s were not allowed to participate in the official LE search.
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Morphew's colleagues from the Maysville Fire Station have also been attempting to help with the search, although one told DailyMail.com they have been warned off by police
Tim Nelson, 33, said: 'The Sheriff's office, they told us none of the fire guys are allowed up there.
'They can't keep us out of the forest so that's what some of the others have done – they set up their own little search party.'
Nelson added: 'It's a bad deal you know. They aren't telling us anything. We got excluded from everything.
'George [Davis] put together a search team of friends – I was going to go but pretty much all our fire guys are on it so I decided to step away just in case we get something [a fire].

'Barry was very understanding from what I got from George. I know he's not allowed to go home. He's at a neighbor's. I guess they got him there until he's cleared or…'
Cops search a property in Colorado for evidence of mom-of-two missing since Mother's Day | Daily Mail Online

2). Since we don’t know how long after the bike was found that GD arrived on the scene, it is entirely possible that the bike was photographed and finger printed before he got there.
3). SM’s brother, AM, was actually part of the unofficial search teams starting on Tuesday, 5/12. He flew in the night before. He stated that the group consisted of about six guys and they searched areas that had already been searched by LE.

4). A reporter posts that LE was going to search the base of Monarch Pass on Tuesday which would be to the west of the 50 and 225 intersection.

Gregory Nieto
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100k Reward being offered to find Chaffee County’s Suzanne Morphew!
She went cycling on Sunday...and never came back.
Tuesday search centered on base of Colorado’s Monarch Pass.
Reward is for “her safe - return- no questions asked.”

5). On Tuesday evening, BM was caught going through the trash at the Poncha Market. He said his wife was missing and he was looking for a bike helmet. As I said before, I find it odd that he was out wandering around in the near dark by himself 2 days after his wife went missing. Did he drop the helmet there on his way to Br
6). On Thursday, a personal item belonging to SM, (believed to be the bike helmet), was found off the road on the west side past the 50 and 225 intersection. This was after the area had been searched at least once by LE and at least once by private searchers. Not impossible, but if it was the helmet, it was large and a bright blue or teal color and would not have sunken into the brush or ground after only 4 days. In other words, it would be tough to miss.

7). It’s been said before, but why didn’t BM first call GD and ask him to go check on his wife instead of calling the 70 year old female neighbor?

Final thoughts: If GD, of the 10 years of LE experience, 400 tours of duty, and 300 searcher friends, couldn’t find a bright shiny bike helmet less than a half mile from the Morphew home, how did he expect to find SM herself in his 200 miles of searches? Asking for a friend.

Barry was searching for the helmet and it suddenly appears 2 days later? I mean I have no words for this one!!! WOW
MOO
 
  • #866
You make a point. He really does seem to try extra hard to prove he’s innocent. In reality I think most people would of just rise above it and ignored it if you are truly innocent ?

MOO
If BM is trying hard to prove his innocence, it has backfired spectacularly, IMO.

I know that people act differently in situations, but his actions and behaviors throughout this whole thing have been bizarre to me.

I’ve said many times that I would love for BM to be innocent, but until LE provides information that leads elsewhere, my thoughts remain close to home. JMO.
 
  • #867
If BM is trying hard to prove his innocence, it has backfired spectacularly, IMO.

I know that people act differently in situations, but his actions and behaviors throughout this whole thing have been bizarre to me.

I’ve said many times that I would love for BM to be innocent, but until LE provides information that leads elsewhere, my thoughts remain close to home. JMO.
I agree with you ! People do definitely act different in situations but in my opinion they matter . His are off I think too. Bizarre is a great description . I mean they kind of make you go “ what is he thinking?!” I hope for the girls sake he’s innocent but I don’t think it looks good at all.
Moo
 
  • #868
I wonder if this is not the first attempt for SM to be disappeared? If it is indeed big cat :rolleyes: Barry that has disappeared SM, maybe he has tried and failed before? Its the bike thing, I THINK I've read that there was something up with it? Which makes me think of brake tampering etc. and that didn't work?

Moo
 
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  • #870
If Barry was cleared LE would let that known I think. I do agree with you though about the social media request and I think you have great points!
MOO

IMO, I don't think it's common for LE to even name suspects publicly anymore. In this case, they have not named a single POI/suspect, not even BM (although I absolutely believe he is or was). Thinking along those lines, they probably wouldn't publicly say someone has been cleared either.
 
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IMO, I don't think it's common for LE to even name suspects publicly anymore. In this case, they have not named a single POI/suspect, not even BM (although I absolutely believe he is or was). Thinking along those lines, they probably wouldn't publicly say someone has been cleared either.
No it’s definitely not common anymore . My go to is always Savannah Spurlocks case . David was the number one suspect from the beginning . They never said it . Although they did clear the girl that she had gone with . So I think it just depends on the department as well! To be honest I think Savannah’s aunt may have been the one to publicly say the police had cleared 2 people . So the police just let family know .
Moo
 
  • #873
I wonder if this is not the first attempt for SM to be disappeared? If it is indeed big cat :rolleyes: Barry that has disappeared SM, maybe he has tried and failed before? Its the bike thing, I THINK I've read that there was something up with it? Which makes me think of brake tampering etc. and that didn't work?

Moo
You make great points! He very well could’ve tried this before if he is guilty . My honest thoughts on this whole case is he came home and she was talking on social media and he saw something he didn’t like and maybe just flipped out and it just went downhill from there. That has just always kind of been what I thought happened I don’t think it was something he planned. I could be completely wrong though about everything.

moo
 
  • #874
You make great points! He very well could’ve tried this before if he is guilty . My honest thoughts on this whole case is he came home and she was talking on social media and he saw something he didn’t like and maybe just flipped out and it just went downhill from there. That has just always kind of been what I thought happened I don’t think it was something he planned. I could be completely wrong though about everything.

moo

I lean that way too, but more she wouldn't do/give him something he wanted ie cash input, think I am just going round and round as things are quiet. But, you never know...
 
  • #875
@al66pine Thank you! And off I go to read up on maintaining an estate of a missing person. I’m hoping it means passively protecting the assets of the missing person until a final determination of their death, versus actively spending those assets prior to that.

In the Michael Chambers case here in Texas, his wife was able to have him declared dead and his estate settled like in a couple of months. His children didn't know until someone from Websleuths informed them.
His 1/2 of the estate was put into probate for maybe 4-6 years? I can't remember exactly, but it sure was something I had never heard about. Very similar cases, but wife is the survivor. Husband vanished into thin air!
 
  • #876
An informative episode. Sounds like CM and MK have gone their separate ways. MK does a much better job of avoiding the extra fluff in this one.
MK quote: “Law enforcement should be working with the Mormon family, and the Morphew family, and reporting to them weekly, or every couple of weeks and just saying here’s where we are.”
 
  • #877
@al66pine Thank you! And off I go to read up on maintaining an estate of a missing person. I’m hoping it means passively protecting the assets of the missing person until a final determination of their death, versus actively spending those assets prior to that.
@steeltowngirl Yes, protecting the estate of the the person who has been declared 'incapacitated' is the goal, while using the g'dnship estate assets to pay for food, shelter, clothing etc. for the Incap'ed Person.

In SM's rather quirky situation as a MisPers , having been declared an Incap'ed Person, seems there would be few easily quantifiable day to day/monthly expenses like food, shelter, clothing, for the Guardian to pay on her behalf. Not like a more common situation, where G'dn uses estate assets to pay for nursing home or care facility fees or for home health providers, as well as other exp's, on behalf of Incap'ed Person.

Makes me wonder about other expenses. Would/should a Gdn cancel auto ins coverage for SM as a driver while missing? Medical ins? Gym/health club membership? Cancelling may indicate something about a G'dn's expectation about whether a MisPers could ever possibly be located alive. What about a life ins policy (other than a paid up policy) which may or may not be kept in force?

This may be of interest, re IN. Guardianships, esp. starting about page 15.
https://gotoipmg.com/images/body-images/IPMG_Professional_Development_Workshop_7-18.pdf
 
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@16:40 mark - talk about a BM girlfriend.
Interesting. That seems like it should be a straightforward answer, yet it wasn’t.
Hmmm....
 
  • #880
Interesting. That seems like it should be a straightforward answer, yet it wasn’t.
Hmmm....

Yeah, the hesitation and the dodging, IMO, make it pretty obvious it's likely a yes answer to that question.
 
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