Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #51

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  • #161
There was a bobcat in the driveway during the May 10th search of the Puma Path house. Some of our more eagle eyed sleuther’s determined it was used to tie yellow rib to, (as opposed to being sealed off). I wonder if BM moved the bob cat from the construction site to his house that night. The part that puzzles me, is why would LE zone in on the bobcat in such a way as it appeared to trip up BM and why is he desperately trying to explain that away?
Did another construction worker verify that the bobcat had been moved from the construction site that night?
I doubt BM tore up and relaid concrete that night. My guess if anything was buried it was in softer muck near the river.

We do not know whether the Bobcat visible in the photos/video at the Salida construction site is the same Bobcat visible in the photos/video of the Puma Path house. (I keep meaning to review the images to see if they are even the same color!)

We do not know whether the Bobcat at the construction site, even if a different machine, also belonged to BM or instead to some other aspect of the construction project.

We do not know how many Bobcats BM might own or lease, nor what other equipment he has at his command.

I agree it's unlikely BM tore up/relaid concrete, unless it was a very small area. AFAIK BM was not the concrete contractor for the project.

I also agree that LE tying caution tape TO the Bobcat at Puma Path indicates that the machine itself was not considered evidence, as they would in that case have taped it off entirely.

The fact that buckets and other Bobcat attachments are removable and presumably interchangeable with other Bobcats does raise some questions in my mind, however.

All MOO
 
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  • #162
I understand fully why LE isn't releasing more information but at the same time I worry the lack of any new information is causing the case to fade from the public eye. I'm betting thats exactly what a certain someone hopes happens.
A loving spouse would keep in contact with police to make sure they were working on the case. Anyone want to bet how many times BM has called police to check and see what they are doing to find his wife?
 
  • #163
Refreshing my memory, to put alongside the reported machinery noises in the night...

"Barry did admit an inconsistency in one timeline he provided to investigators."

“It was only because I didn’t know the time that I did something, a mechanical thing, to my bobcat,” he said. “I was confused and I just found out my wife was missing, and I was a little bit not in my right mind when they were asking me these questions, but I did the best I could and I answered everything. I never once declined any interview.”

“People don’t know the truth”: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado
“People don’t know the truth”: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado

Edited to add:
The situation reminds me of times I've read/heard investigators say something along the lines of they ask questions that they already know the answer to
bbm
"Answered everything... never once declined any interview..."
That doesn't mean the answers were accurate.
And was there even a request by LE, for an interview with them ?
Or was that added for effect ?

Did LE not get any farther than a few questions with non-answers as replies ?
And that was the end of communications ?
The sheriff saying "We hope he continues (to cooperate)", is telling.

Speculation : BM's replies to all questions by LE : "I don't know. Listen to what I'm saying. She went on a bike ride, didn't the neighbor tell you ? Why are you asking questions that have nothing to do with the bike ride ?" Etc.

MOO
 
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  • #164
A loving spouse would keep in contact with police to make sure they were working on the case. Anyone want to bet how many times BM has called police to check and see what they are doing to find his wife?
RBBM

My bet: Zero.

And he apparently wasn’t camped out down at the CCSO banging on their doors trying to get info about what is being done to find his missing wife either, as in BM’s own words, he wasn’t aware that there weren’t any SM flyers or posters hanging up at the CCSO.

Snipped from article at link below:


And the FOX21 crew, expecting to find flyers or posters with information about the Morphew case at the Sheriff’s office, was surprised to find none.

I think that’s crazy. I didn’t know that,” Barry Morphew said.

Seriously?! I’d be banging on LE doors for case progression updates/how search efforts are going if my Spouse had suddenly and inexplicably vanished into thin air, but hey, that’s me.

Search for Suzanne Morphew pushes on despite silence from Chaffee County Sheriff | FOX21 News Colorado


IMHO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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There was a bobcat in the driveway during the May 10th search of the Puma Path house. Some of our more eagle eyed sleuther’s determined it was used to tie yellow rib to, (as opposed to being sealed off). I wonder if BM moved the bob cat from the construction site to his house that night. The part that puzzles me, is why would LE zone in on the bobcat in such a way as it appeared to trip up BM and why is he desperately trying to explain that away?
Did another construction worker verify that the bobcat had been moved from the construction site that night?
I doubt BM tore up and relaid concrete that night. My guess if anything was buried it was in softer muck near the river.
The concrete hadn't been poured at that point.
 
  • #167
This article tells us what investigators found at that Salida job site where MG was raking and machinery was running in the middle of the night.
May 24th, Press Release - Chaffee County Sheriff

It might just be me, but my eyes fell on the bolded part when I read this the first time around in May and it still does now:
Investigators searched several locations on the property; however, they were unable to make any connection to Suzanne Morphew’s case at this time. Details about the search are not available, as this is part of the active investigation.

Which to me could equally mean:

1) LE didn’t found anything

Or

2) LE did found something, but before they would make it public (if they ever want to before a trial) it needs to be validated/investigated to connect it to the perpetrator or to Suzanne.

So I don’t feel I can say for sure if they found anything or not.

IMO
 
  • #168
Well stated, Megnut !
I'll admit I'm curious about what is in or under that wall.... :eek:

Perfectly said! The wall was tampered with dimk
The concrete hadn't been poured at that point.

They used ground penetrating radar to look under concrete and they dug up slabs of concrete. I do not know which parts of the structure (s) the concrete was part of.
 
  • #169
It might just be me, but my eyes fell on the bolded part when I read this the first time around in May and it still does now:


Which to me could equally mean:

1) LE didn’t found anything

Or

2) LE did found something, but before they would make it public (if they ever want to before a trial) it needs to be validated/investigated to connect it to the perpetrator or to Suzanne.

So I don’t feel I can say for sure if they found anything or not.

IMO
In my opinion, had they found anything significant, such as pieces of SM’s phone for example, it would have triggered an arrest by now.
JMO
 
  • #170
It is reported she cannot remember whether it was Friday or Saturday night when she heard sounds unfortunately.

arrgh!! if correct there is something evasive about the neighbors story. No firm date, no firm time, vague rumors about seeing a man and a woman.
 
  • #171
In my opinion, had they found anything significant, such as pieces of SM’s phone for example, it would have triggered an arrest by now.
JMO
It depends on what sort of pieces we are talking about. Pieces which are identifiable or just pieces of plastic which could have come from anything anywhere.
Something like this needs to be connected to the victim or the perpetrator. If you can’t connect it for sure to one of them, any attorney worth his money would say it was just in the soil used to level the foundation. So no, without being able to proof it was Suzanne’s, it would never be cause for an arrest. On the other hand it could be used at trial as one more coincidence pointing to someone.
IMO

ETA one more word
 
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There are 2 thoughts I find frustrating...

1) LE has all evidence they need to arrest the killer, but politics are preventing that from happening at this time

2) LE does not have the evidence they need to arrest the killer at this time and are waiting on a break through.
 
  • #174
There are 2 thoughts I find frustrating...

1) LE has all evidence they need to arrest the killer, but politics are preventing that from happening at this time

2) LE does not have the evidence they need to arrest the killer at this time and are waiting on a break through.
However frustrating it may seem, LE could have a lot of evidence but could be waiting for more because if Suzanne won’t be found this will be a no body case. Although it’s not impossible, still those are the more difficult cases to prosecute.

As more time goes by the more certain it would be that SM is not alive. Time is on LE’s side.
As waiting won’t hurt SM anymore, it can’t hurt to wait what longer and see if LE could get lucky and her body would turn up somewhere. Or some other evidence/witness would turn up and seal the case and make it even stronger.

I also think that LE is aware in a case where they have a suspect who is rich those could have a much better/more skilled/more experienced lawyer team, so their case must be even stronger.

And there is also the fact if they arrest someone the countdown begins.

All IMHO
 
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There are 2 thoughts I find frustrating...

1) LE has all evidence they need to arrest the killer, but politics are preventing that from happening at this time

2) LE does not have the evidence they need to arrest the killer at this time and are waiting on a break through.
bbm
It could be as simple as one person coming forward.
Either within Suzanne's family , a friend, or an outside person (employee ?).
Imo.
 
  • #176
bbm
It could be as simple as one person coming forward.
Either within Suzanne's family , a friend, or an outside person (employee ?).
Imo.

I do believe this to be likely, hence LE flashing road tip line sign and their last press release pleading, IMO, for friends (who investigators say SM loved dearly) to come forward. That’s how I still read that press release (others do not). They do state that’s one aspect of the case they are focusing on, her social media. Must be important for this tight tight lipped Sheriff’s office to put out.

Suzanne Morphew case remains a priority to the Chaffee County Sheriff’s Office - Chaffee County Sheriff
 
  • #177
I honestly don’t think the work site dig produced any evidence. Not every single search warrant does and that’s ok. They simply have a location to rule out. The wording “at this time”, I talk like that at work sometimes, it’s careful wording and is not definite and could be revisited again. IMO
 
  • #178
I agree... adrenaline plays a huge role. I work in hospice and just finished a 36 hour shift because of the snow fall. It went by in the blink of an eye... and then of course I crash.
Bless your soul!
 
  • #179
Refreshing my memory, to put alongside the reported machinery noises in the night...

"Barry did admit an inconsistency in one timeline he provided to investigators."

“It was only because I didn’t know the time that I did something, a mechanical thing, to my bobcat,” he said. “I was confused and I just found out my wife was missing, and I was a little bit not in my right mind when they were asking me these questions, but I did the best I could and I answered everything. I never once declined any interview.”

“People don’t know the truth”: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado
“People don’t know the truth”: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado

Edited to add:
The situation reminds me of times I've read/heard investigators say something along the lines of they ask questions that they already know the answer to

Yes, like in the Jennifer Dulos case, where the subject of the LE interview (Michelle Troconis) first tells one version of the story in such a way as to make herself or others appear innocent, and then upon learning investigators have facts that conflict with that story, the subject alters the telling to conform to those facts, and then upon learning investigators have more facts that conflict with that version, the subject alters the telling to conform to those facts.

It becomes a slow-motion revelation of the subject's willingness to lie repeatedly and in an evolving way with respect to events related to a crime; these acts are themselves incriminating.
 
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Click on the "Go to First Unread" at end of the page #'s above.
I'm not positive, but I think you also have to click on "Watch Thread" at the very top right of the thread so the point at which you last stopped reading will be kept.
 
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