Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #51

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  • #681
You said LE cleared her to leave the state... they don't do that. And her leaving the state doesn't tell us anything about whether LE is suspicious of her or not.

You misunderstood my post. I did not say LE cleared her.
I said I doubt that she'd have been cleared to leave the state if LE had reason to believe she was involved in Suzanne's disappearance. Obviously this is jmo, as we have no official word from LE on any of this.
 
  • #682
You misunderstood my post. I did not say LE cleared her.
I said I doubt that she'd have been cleared to leave the state if LE had reason to believe she was involved in Suzanne's disappearance. Obviously this is jmo, as we have no official word from LE on any of this.

I think the point is that LE doesn't "clear people" to leave states in the first place. They knew Letecia Stauch had gone to N.C., then come back, then left again and they knew she was traveling into Texas and then to Florida.

Under what law or basis can LE restrict a person's movement in the US? Unless they are in the active commission of a crime...which MG is not.

People on parole or probation can be restricted. People out on bail can be restricted. But Barry Morphew himself has gone back and forth to Indiana - I seriously doubt that he got some kind of hall pass from LE, and my doubt is based mostly on the fact that no such item exists.

Until a person is arrested and charged, LE cannot prescribe the area within which they must stay - that's detainment and AFAIK, unconstitutional.

Witnesses can be asked to stick around - that's it. That's probably why she says she's not fully cooperative (and she doesn't have to be). No one has to "stick around" just because LE asks them to. A judge has to be involved. Thankfully.
 
  • #683
I think the point is that LE doesn't "clear people" to leave states in the first place. They knew Letecia Stauch had gone to N.C., then come back, then left again and they knew she was traveling into Texas and then to Florida.

I should have clarified.

I was thinking more along the lines of LE maybe telling her "you're free to go" (assuming they even knew she was moving out of state) than any kind of official word from LE that she has been cleared.

AFAIK, no one has been cleared at this time, just as no one has been named as a suspect.
 
  • #684
I should have clarified.

I was thinking more along the lines of LE maybe telling her "you're free to go" (assuming they even knew she was moving out of state) than any kind of official word from LE that she has been cleared.

AFAIK, no one has been cleared at this time, just as no one has been named as a suspect.

I doubt LE told her "you're free to go" either. It's possible, but I think it unlikely.

I think it's more likely they told her, "If you change addresses, let us know." And I bet she did. No point in making LE irritated.

That would be considered "cooperation." If they said, "We prefer you not leave the area," and she did leave, then that would be "not cooperating." And she has admitted that she is not entirely cooperating.

In either case, her whereabouts are known if they need her at a trial. Witnesses in trials are treated with some care, for obvious reasons. For all we know, LE did in fact silently approve of her getting out of the middle of this (both for PR reasons and for safety reasons).

If I were her, I'd be worried about running into BM in Salida, as he is a known hothead.
 
  • #685
There's been an arrest in Denver regarding the body of a male found inside a suitcase on the Sanderson Gulch Trail. Although the remains not yet identified, the victim and suspect were believed known to each other. Posting this here for general awareness of the many trails around Chaffee County.

DPD arrests man in homicide of victim whose remains were found in suitcases
 
  • #686
There's been an arrest in Denver regarding the body of a male found inside a suitcase on the Sanderson Gulch Trail. Although the remains not yet identified, the victim and suspect were believed known to each other. Posting this here for general awareness of the many trails around Chaffee County.

DPD arrests man in homicide of victim whose remains were found in suitcases

SuitcaseS. Gah.

So many grisly crimes.

I really hope nothing like that happened here.

Suzanne's story is already tragic enough.

JMO
 
  • #687
I recalled last night something about a cabin in the area - that burned down.
It seems to moo possible that BM chopped up his wife (disambiguate?), put her into bags and drove off to find a good place to dump her - like I’m a dumpster that is emptied regularly and the contents trucked off to some remote garbage pile. A land fill?
That's why no traces of poor Suzanne have been found, no tattered clothes nor scents for the dogs to follow.
I think he chopped her into pieces at that cabin and packed her up to go. That's why they found nothing at the house or jobsite. He probably had already pre-stocked the cabin with cutlery, rags, bags, boxes, tape, cleaner, etc. He probably worked naked to avoid blood-stained clothes. (It was late May)
Later, burning down the cabin cleans up any overlooked traces, smears or smudges.
That's why BM can sell the house with worrying about leaving clues behind to be discovered. That's why BM isn't worried his kids will find something incriminating.
"Cummon, Honey! It's mother's day! Let's celebrate! I know a romantic little place just down the road!"
 
  • #688
Does anyone know how far from the leaning bike the blue helmet was found?
How far from the nearest rideable surface (road or smooth trail) was the bike when found?

Could it be that SM was biking other that on the highway?

Are there any who believe the killer cougar theory ?

How can that theory explain the positions of the bike, the blue helmet and the personal item?
 
  • #689
Does anyone know how far from the leaning bike the blue helmet was found?
How far from the nearest rideable surface (road or smooth trail) was the bike when found?

Could it be that SM was biking other that on the highway?

Are there any who believe the killer cougar theory ?

How can that theory explain the positions of the bike, the blue helmet and the personal item?
Well, I’m getting old and my memory isn’t what it used to be so I can’t recall all that we’ve discussed here in 51 threads. But, there’s one thing many of us believe. There was a Cat involved, named Bob. :p:D However, we don’t think Bob ate SM or leaned the bike against the tree. MOO
 
  • #690
I should have clarified.

I was thinking more along the lines of LE maybe telling her "you're free to go" (assuming they even knew she was moving out of state) than any kind of official word from LE that she has been cleared.

AFAIK, no one has been cleared at this time, just as no one has been named as a suspect.
Exactly !
 
  • #691
Well, I’m getting old and my memory isn’t what it used to be so I can’t recall all that we’ve discussed here in 51 threads. But, there’s one thing many of us believe. There was a Cat involved, named Bob. :p:D However, we don’t think Bob ate SM or leaned the bike against the tree. MOO
Right ? “ Bob “ the cat surely would of left a trail of blood too !
 
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I recalled last night something about a cabin in the area - that burned down.
It seems to moo possible that BM chopped up his wife (disambiguate?), put her into bags and drove off to find a good place to dump her - like I’m a dumpster that is emptied regularly and the contents trucked off to some remote garbage pile. A land fill?
That's why no traces of poor Suzanne have been found, no tattered clothes nor scents for the dogs to follow.
I think he chopped her into pieces at that cabin and packed her up to go. That's why they found nothing at the house or jobsite. He probably had already pre-stocked the cabin with cutlery, rags, bags, boxes, tape, cleaner, etc. He probably worked naked to avoid blood-stained clothes. (It was late May)
Later, burning down the cabin cleans up any overlooked traces, smears or smudges.
That's why BM can sell the house with worrying about leaving clues behind to be discovered. That's why BM isn't worried his kids will find something incriminating.
"Cummon, Honey! It's mother's day! Let's celebrate! I know a romantic little place just down the road!"


The cabin actually burned before she disappeared.
 
  • #694
Someone knows something , the most important thing is keeping her name constantly on social media .
 
  • #695
Someone knows something , the most important thing is keeping her name constantly on social media .
LE doesn’t agree with you.
 
  • #696
Does anyone know how far from the leaning bike the blue helmet was found?
How far from the nearest rideable surface (road or smooth trail) was the bike when found?

Could it be that SM was biking other that on the highway?

Are there any who believe the killer cougar theory ?

How can that theory explain the positions of the bike, the blue helmet and the personal item?

Very few details have been released about Suzanne’s bike ride. Mainly because many believe it never happened.

Her bicycle was recovered, reportedly near a bridge close to their home. A few days later they found an additional “personal item.” Investigators have not described the personal item or released information about the condition of the bike. I believe we learned via an interview with PE or AM that the blue helmet actually was found.

Barry may believe the killer cougar theory. He sure wants us to believe it.

But as you point out, the cougar theory would not explain the position of the bike, etc.

I’d be more likely to believe Suzanne was riding her bike as she ran away to join the circus, than to believe the cougar story.

jmo
 
  • #697
I don’t believe that the item or items found has ever been released to the public. The bike was found down the hill from the gravel road. I do not believe information about the condition of the bike or whether the bike was on the ground or located upright has ever been released. The mountain lion mention came from the sheriffs office and that one had been spotted in the area so that was just one of several theories in the first few days after Suzanne disappeared. I believe the mountain lion theory while plausible as a theory was set aside within the early week or so but I think it has caught the public fancy so continues to surface 8 months later.
 
  • #698
I don’t believe that the item or items found has ever been released to the public. The bike was found down the hill from the gravel road. I do not believe information about the condition of the bike or whether the bike was on the ground or located upright has ever been released. The mountain lion mention came from the sheriffs office and that one had been spotted in the area so that was just one of several theories in the first few days after Suzanne disappeared. I believe the mountain lion theory while plausible as a theory was set aside within the early week or so but I think it has caught the public fancy so continues to surface 8 months later.
I believe everything published about "the bike" has come from NG, YT blogger, and/or AM. However, I recall that even BM stopped himself short of talking about the position/condition of the bike when being interviewed at the alleged location!
 
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Could anyone verify if the Puma Path development is actually in Salida or nearby? I have seen the exact addresslisted as in Salido and in Manitou springs. Maps and geography not my strong point. Thanks!
 
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