Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #7

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  • #661
Do we know when BM got back from his Denver trip?
If he returned on Sunday evening, a few hours after the police had been notified she was missing, I would expect he’d have gone to the house. But I’ve seen it mentioned that he has not been in the house since he got back.
If police stopped him from returning to his own home, on the same evening she was reported missing - it seems as if they suspected him of something before they even spoke to him? MOO.
Can you imagine coming home from a trip after finding out your spouse has gone missing, and not being allowed in your own home?
Does anyone know if this is standard procedure, to prevent a spouse from entering their home, if they were away when the person went missing? Thanks.
 
  • #662
Yes, we're guilty of wanting to watch that last too-long series of commercials before coming back for the big wrap-up when the clicking handcuffs are followed by a final walk out of the courtroom!

In this case I plan to take a long pause of satisfaction when we get that first stunning arrest warrant.
You want to try living in the UK
LE will not share anything, zippo, nada... you get my drift ....unless and until it is absolutely necessary, balancing the needs of the investigation and the public’s perception of the fear of crime, so anything that you do get to hear is a bonus. Then to add to that, we have subjudice laws whereby once a person is charged (arraigned) with the crime, there is no reporting whatsoever to protect the integrity of the case and to see the prosecution through to the end without any evidence or witnesses being compromised. Even during the trial , there is limited reporting and only if the judge doesn’t impose full reporting restrictions. So the time that you actually get find out about the case Is after its crown court conclusion and then all is revealed provided it’s not a case where national security is threatened if the revelation of details pertinent to the case are reported upon or where there’s child victims or sexual violence etc
 
  • #663
Could they not have fished DNA out of a trash can at the home? Let's see.... the dirty laundry bin, yep, hair brush, kitchen towel, faucets, toilet seat, dirty dishes, toothbrush...
And that would be challenged in court if they did such a thing. It's vital to have a verified and uncontaminated DNA sample of each person so a forensic team can do the work they need to do. Fishing things out of a garbage pail would not be the best source when you have living people to get DNA from via buccal swabs.
 
  • #664
Lauren Scharf was live.
May 23 at 5:27 PM ·
Let’s talk about the missing person case of Suzanne Morphew in Colorado. Please tell me where you are watching from and if you have questions I’ll try to answer at the end.

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I can't answer your question about the timing. But one of the interesting things LS mentioned in her live;
  • She identifies a CBI PIO by name, states she has called that person to get updates and information. The CBI PIO then has to call Sheriff Spezze and get permission and instructions on what can be released to the media.
It was an interesting glimpse into the inter-agency respect for Spezze, clearly CCSO is in control of the investigation.
 
  • #665
<modsnip: quoted post was removed> My posts are all there to see and they have mostly been about her being abducted, which I believe is what happened. Until I find out otherwise I stick by that and that is why I was pushing this. I do not want her to be stuck somewhere with someone and LE looking the other way ( think Jayme Closs) just focusing on BM. Look at post #366.

All MOO <modsnip: removed reference to removed post>

You make a very valid point about the Jayme Closs case. The possibility of a complete stranger having first stalked her and then managed to secrete her away with only minutes to spare before the police turned up is concrete proof that it does happen. Abductors such as the young male in Jayme's case invariably take young females whom they then repeatedly sexually abuse. We hear of cases where females have been imprisoned for decades. But they are rare. They usually come to our attention when the female prisoner escapes. Some never escape.
 
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  • #666
Missing Colorado mother Suzanne Morphew’s bicycle has been found, family says

SABBM:

Authorities have revealed very little about the investigation, but Chaffee County Sheriff John Spezze told CBS4 Denver on Wedneday that his department had not ruled out foul play. Investigators have also said they do not believe Morphew was attacked or trapped by animals.

On Thursday, Morphew’s nephew Trevor Noel told a Fox 21 News reporter that Morphew’s bicycle was recovered on Sunday. Investigators have not confirmed this, and it remains unclear if the bike was recovered by a member of the official search party, or by a volunteer.
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Just wanted to drop in this link about a couple of items we've been discussing, i.e., the fact that LE doesn't believe SM was attached by an animal and that it was TN who reported SM's bike was found on Sunday.

LE isn't saying anything one way or the other.

I'd sure love to know who found that bike, and how easily it was spotted.

Something tells me it was hidden in plain sight.

As if just waiting to be found.

JMO.
 
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  • #667
Can we confirm that there was discussion of a recovered bike before May 12? I don’t want the bike to be the personal item. I know, I have to go back to the timeline and facts, media, no, discussion. It does help a lot.
Sorry, I can't help you with sorting out the confusing and conflicting media articles about the bicycle and personal items. However, in mapping and timing all of the possibilities, I have used the assumption that it was found early in the morning of the first organized search, which was Monday May 11th. IMO
 
  • #668
The types of behaviors I observed:

- words not matching body movements
- head shaking as if saying "no"
- single blinking vs double blinking on specific phrases
- intonation of voice changing
- phrasing, specific words, distancing
- insistence on a specific crime (kidnapping)
- changing who he was talking to (first to wife, then to anyone who had her)
- "no questions asked"
- specific and very limited requirement for the reward
- brevity of plea when there was no limit imposed (27 seconds)

All of these! Also, his eyebrows didn't move. Unless he is heavily botoxed, his eyebrows never showed any movement or expression or became animated or furrowed - while pleading with his wife's kidnappers and expressing how much he wanted her back...
 
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  • #670
My biggest surprise of the day was learning that Suzanne's family supposedly didn't even know who TN is ... the family spokesperson about their daughter's disappearance and possible/probable murder.
Indeed, that was a mind blower. So if they don't know who he is, who is this guy and why did he make this 🤬🤬🤬 for the family and searchers?
 
  • #671
LE will concentrate on the last ping prior to their being no service and the next ping when service resumed and they will plot in between, any other masts available for the triangulation of the ping and the mileage / square miles/feet/yards /metres etc that the cell tower mast covers and see what sort of area is in between.
Thanks for answering my question. I’m sure the locals know where the no service areas are. He could have disposed of the body in a large no service area. This could make it difficult to find the body. MOO
On another website a girl posted about her road trip cell phone coverage from Denver to Salida. It was very detailed and there were many no service areas.
 
  • #672
Yoo Hoo, Steels, wrong organization.
 
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  • #673
Okay, I’ll bite... Suppose this was the case. Did he tell the Sheriff? If so, why would Sheriff spend all that time searching the perimeters, then searching the house ... before going to dig under the garage pad? Surely BM told the Sheriff his fears of retribution from the supposed loan shark? Seems like a lot of wasted time, money and energy searching all those places IF BM told Sheriff WHO he borrowed money from and WHO might be seeking retribution...
It might explain him looking out windows and pacing ... he’s afraid they are coming after him next?
But, I think he’s just wondering instead when LE will show up with his arrest warrant. He looked haggard in his PLEA video, maybe a friend offered anxiety medication and that is why his unemotional and detached plea sounded so flat and monotone. I can’t believe there are people describing it as “impassioned” though I do believe he’s suffering.
Like you, I’ve tried giving him the benefit of a doubt but I just can’t get there ...

I believe the house would have been searched no matter what theory LE may be working on. It's where SM lived... where it's fair to assume she was just before whatever happened to her happened and, whether she was in the house when it happened or not. LE needed to check the house completely for signs of break-in, violence and the possibility of her body being hidden in the house. LE would want any tech devices, as someone mentioned, diaries or journals, etc. My understanding is that the family was barred from the house... therefore, it's fair to think (but not positively conclude) that SM was the last person to leave that house... or perhaps the neighbor if she made a quick search looking for SM. Yes, the house had to be searched even if SM was a single person; there being no BM at all.

The job site had to be searched. BM has not been cleared so what stories he may or may not have shared with LE is of no consequence and wouldn't change the outcome, that being... the job site had to be searched.
BM's wife is missing and he had just finished laying down soil at a job site and it had been covered with concrete. I'm sure LE would have liked to get the tip before the concrete was set in place. They didn't and it cost a lot of money and time... nothing BM could have said would have changed that. The point I was making in my was; there could have been reasons other than just BM for searching there. There may be more than one POI.

Respectfully, I'm not giving BM the "benefit of the doubt." I've explained in other comments that, for myself and the level of certainty that I need in order to make a decision... I simply do not have enough information to make a hard core judgment either way. That leads me to speculate further.

Some may see the search of the house and job site as proof positive that BM must be involved... in fact must be "the one." I haven't disagreed with that and find it to be a very logical conclusion but I see alternative ways of looking at those to searches as not being driven by just one person. I know I could be wrong and that's okay. I'm just not ready, in my way of thinking, for final conclusions due to the lack of vital information to plug into the puzzle, imo.
 
  • #674
Could they not have fished DNA out of a trash can at the home? Let's see.... the dirty laundry bin, yep, hair brush, kitchen towel, faucets, toilet seat, dirty dishes, toothbrush...
LE can ask for voluntary DNA anytime they like. The daughters might also voluntarily submit DNA (half of which would be dad's). Either way I don't think it will be DNA that cracks this case, I think it will be electronic and physical records.

LE had enough probable cause to dig up someone's concrete foundation. I think that speaks volumes here.
 
  • #675
‘We’re in the dark’: Missing Suzanne Morphew’s family waits and worries two weeks after Colorado mom’s mysterious disappearance [EXCLUSIVE]

"The relative said that some of Suzanne’s family members, including at least one of Suzanne’s siblings and Barry Morphew’s mother — who Suzanne is reportedly close to — traveled to the area after Suzanne was reported missing."

From the Crime Online article - I sure hope that "gimmefund" covered the costs of Suzanne's sibling traveling to the area.
 
  • #676
Perhaps other members will recall but I don't recall it being reported in MSM that TN helped produce the video, so we need to find out whether there is MSM to support that. Comments from general social media are not permitted, so if that's where it is sourced, it can't be discussed here (too many rumors; but members can sleuth and discuss whatever they like in private conversations of up to 20 members. It just can't be brought to the public thread).

Given MSM indicates Suzanne's family said they don't know who TN is, I think it is safe to conclude he is probably blood nephew on Barry's side. Unfortunately TOS does not allow us to sleuth family members (other than BM where very strong indications from LE is that they consider him a suspect). Members can only discuss what TN has said or what has been said about him in MSM.
This article indicates her family does know who TN is and that he’s one of the reasons she was happy about moving to CO. ‘We’re in the dark’: Missing Suzanne Morphew’s family waits and worries two weeks after Colorado mom’s mysterious disappearance [EXCLUSIVE]
 
  • #677
Long time lurker, first time poster.

We’ve followed countless missing persons investigations on here, and regardless of who conducting the investigation, we generally see the same things:

A physical description (clothing, height, weight, etc).

The time and date the person was last seen.

Public searches, daily press conferences, and appeals from the family.

Here, the FBI and CBI were on scene very quickly, and searches were conducted by law enforcement. They did not ask for public help in that regard.

That tells me that they knew a crime had been committed, and had a very good idea that the perpetrator was close to home.

We know how the CBI and FBI operate, and how they handle certain situations. I’m convinced this is a murder investigation with a strong suspect.

Not a stranger abduction. Not a runaway wife. Not an accident. Not an animal attack. Not a lost woman.

This could take a while.

hi!!! Happy you’re back.
 
  • #678
Similarly, remember that first press conference?

The chief responded to a reporter who asked why PF wasn’t there “you’d have to ask him that.” It was at that moment I knew he was a suspect.

Similarly, the sheriff here said something to the effect of “he has been cooperative, and I hope he continues to do so.”

To me, that’s telling.
Agree. Enough said in my eyes.
 
  • #679
I would say anyone having an affair with a man when his wife has cancer ... deserves to spend the rest of her life in the hell she will endure with such a person.

Can we please send the darling husband along with her to keep her company? He's a just as big of a worm, afterall.
 
  • #680
Do we know when BM got back from his Denver trip?
If he returned on Sunday evening, a few hours after the police had been notified she was missing, I would expect he’d have gone to the house. But I’ve seen it mentioned that he has not been in the house since he got back.
If police stopped him from returning to his own home, on the same evening she was reported missing - it seems as if they suspected him of something before they even spoke to him? MOO.
Can you imagine coming home from a trip after finding out your spouse has gone missing, and not being allowed in your own home?
Does anyone know if this is standard procedure, to prevent a spouse from entering their home, if they were away when the person went missing? Thanks.

There are photos of him in the Daily Mail (two photos - wearing same sunglasses and short sleeve t-shirt), one behind an SUV, and the other next to the same vehicle - looks as though he has a foot on back of SUV. The captions and info relate to him leaving the home he shares with SM, at the request of LE, so they can conduct searches. The searches were conducted after he posted his appeal video, which suggests that he was back at the house after Suzanne went missing.
 
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