CO - The Stalking and Mysterious Death of Morgan Ingram #1

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Here is the picture of the stalker watching the LE leave. The blog said he must have turned his head right when the deer cam went off.
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I'm quoting pieces of my post for the picture.

IMO....this man looks older than 25. Has stiff hair. Not chunky and not tall. Just average. White.
Blonde hair or dirty blonde. ?maybe a light brown color but I am leaning more towards blonde-ish. Cropped close and the top is stiff looking.

Looks like he had a big nose (but that could be the blur)

One weird thing.....why wear a white shirt when you are stalking somebody in the dark? White sticks out like a sore thumb.

I also don't think he is leaning on the car.
 
He looks almost like a scarecrow, or a large Halloween doll, something you can dangle from a string to scare the neighborhood kids when they come trick or treating. Two dimensional.
 
He looks almost like a scarecrow, or a large Halloween doll, something you can dangle from a string to scare the neighborhood kids when they come trick or treating. Two dimensional.

HAHA. Exactly!

He kind of looks like "the joker" to me.
 
Another thing. Morgan was so scared she was sleeping in the closet but not about going off my herself where anyone could catch her alone and do something. If you have a stalker arent you going to be afraid he is following you? And wouldnt he follow you? She was taking her puppy out for walks and the one day she was somewhere walking alone. It just really seems someone was out to terrorize that family in their home. And so far in this story thats the only place Morgan seems afraid.Why?

She was afraid at home b/c he was watching her there and tapping on her bathroom window. She was walking alone to fight the fear. It sucks to be in constant fear, you carry mace and pray a lot.
 
Her death initially was attributed to natural causes, according to an autopsy report dated Dec. 19 by Dr. Robert Kurtzman, of Grand Junction, a forensic pathologist and former coroner for Mesa County. The Mesa County coroner routinely handles autopsies for Garfield County.

Specifically, Kurtzman's report cited “marked pulmonary edema,” or fluid buildup in the lungs, and “acute intermittent porphyria,” a metabolic disorder that causes severe stomach pains.

On July 28 however, Kurtzman's office issued a revised postmortem report that cites the cause of death as suicide resulting from a prescription-drug overdose.

Morgan Ingram died from “amitriptyline intoxication,” according to Kurtzman's report.
It is disturbing to see this obvious AR that is far from definitive and certain..its disturbing to the indignant manner they view it as final,certain,and accurate without doubt...and that just no matter how you look at this it is not accurate..

Initially just ruled as merely Morgan having died of natural cause..obviously there was nothing set in stone that the cod was certain so,after Morgans dad having discussed other possibilities that they saw..the coroner then totally changes his opinion of natural causes and take bits and pieces of information dad spoke with coroner about and rules that there was a pre existing condition of poriphyia..(WHICH IN AND OF ITSELF IS FALSE AND INACCURATE)..and states toxicology showed lethal amounts of amitryptiline in Morgans blood stream at the time of her death..there are zero pill fragments,partial fragments,or any other evidence one may expect to be found as proof of Morgans having orally ingested the large and lethal doses of amitryptiline..

The coroner makes what imo was not only a drastic 180* turnabout on what was his opinion and thereby final ruling of Morgans cause of death..but most importantly and with gross negligence he rules manner of death as suicide..my blood boils!

What about unintentional overdose?..with the coroner being of the mindset that absolute no foul play was involved whatsoever therefor not even looking at any evidence with
even the possibility of foul play ..his being bias of not even looking objectively at Morgans autopsy and circumstances and conditions of her actual body..with his refusing to even objectively LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND GO WHERE THE EVIDENCE LEADS..

In turning that blind eye and determined for this to be a death at the hands of NO ONE EXCEPT THE VICTIM HERSELF..

HE RULES SUICIDE?!?!

NOTHING INDICATIVE NOR SUPPORTING THIS ..NOTHING!(at most this could be ruled as accidental/unintentional overdose)..but SUICIDE??

It literally makes my blood boil..seriously ..to know without doubt your adult child did not commit suicide..and for the actual evidence to support that your child did NOT commit suicide..yet on the coroners second go around(that theyve decided will be the final say so)the coroner rules your child intentionally killed herself..

It makes my blood boil and have such deep compassion for this family..it is an outrage that Morgan is officially ruled as having killed herself..intentionally caused harm(not accidental or unintentional)but intentionally killed..murdered..and wiped ones own existence out from this world..to know its not true and again most importantly the evidence does not even support or back up this ridiculous manner of death,suicide!..its just angering and deserves to be reopened..

Detective Megan Alstatt, said that the stalker case is not necessarily closed.

“I believe it's inactive, but technically we could reopen it,” she said, although she said the department has no plans to do so without new evidence of some sort.

Several different people were viewed as suspects, she said.

“At this time we don't have enough evidence to go through with arrests for any of those people,” she added.
I believe that Toni is very well explaining througbout that she is not blaming these officers that she absolutely feels were wanting to catch this perp and were doing all they could do within their power and training..

She makes clear that she feels the changes that are necessary are to the laws,procedures,and training for officers handling this out in the field..i dont see har blasting or blaming these officers that were repeatedly out at their home while the stalking was happening..shes fighting for awareness and change so that the next girl,the next family may just have the ability along with LE to better protect the victims and procure the perpetrators..

Of course she is using the bright,glaring light that is provided us in hindsight..pointing out that which she/they(fam) now believes they could have done differently..as well as is pointing out areas she in hindsight now believes LE could have done or handled differently.. I do not see her being on a blame game train, blasting LE, and blaming them for Morgan's death.. I see her taking major heaping helpings of blame on herself way before laying guilt and blame on these officers.. I believe she's being extremely objective in that sense especially in seeing how she could, and most parents in her position would be laying those heaping helpings of blame on LE and a multitude of other people/things...

All in all imo this LE knows absolutely that there was and still is existing a very much alive and well stalker that wreaked hell and havoc on this family.. But as with every other case in America LE just "knowing" that the perpatrator exists as does the crimes he's committed.. That does not equate to perp arrested, charged, convicted, and sentenced..

Two very different issues and this case is just like thousands of others WRT LE "knowing" there's a perp and crimes committed.. Vs.. LE/DA having the necessary evidence to "prove" that in a court of law.. Until then Morgan, too will go without receiving justice on her behalf.


**The rest at link:
http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20120907/NEWS/120909901/1077&ParentProfile=1058
 
He looks like he is facing away from the camera. Instead of looking at it as a distorted face try thinking of someone facing towards the road wearing a ball cap on backwards. And there seems to be long hair under the bill of the cap. Can anyone see that? maybe I am crazy, lol
 
He looks like he is facing away from the camera. Instead of looking at is a distorted face try thinking of someone facing towards the road wearing a ball cap on backwards. And there seems to be long hair under the bill of the cap. Can anyone see that? maybe I am crazy, lol

Nope, not crazy. I see it that way, as well as the other way. Almost as if he's looking down the right side of the drive, with the bill of the ball cap (which would be backward) facing bottom left. The second bit under the bill would be longish hair.

The other way, it looks like he's whipping his head toward the left, while walking up/left. The turning of the body and the distortion would be from movement, and you see a bit of a doubling of the chin/nose...giving a very weird look to the "face."

I can see it both ways...and SoBe, that's an intruiging thought.

I soooo have to download/save this photo and play with it. Maybe I'll do that tonight...see what else I can see.

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He looks like he is facing away from the camera. Instead of looking at is a distorted face try thinking of someone facing towards the road wearing a ball cap on backwards. And there seems to be long hair under the bill of the cap. Can anyone see that? maybe I am crazy, lol

You're not crazy - or maybe we're both crazy, I'm seeing all kinds of stuff I've been staring at that pic so long now! You could be right about the cap or maybe a latex full-head character mask with exaggerated features such as nose and chin, would also explain the 'stiffness' of the hair and then if I squint and try really hard to see a face looking directly at the camera I see a skull!

Thanks to rollinginit btw for the attempted explanation about hunter cams, I dunno if I really understand why the figure should be so blurred when everything else - the cars, lawnmower, trees - is so clear and sharply defined, maybe the fact he was moving?
 
That picture is weird. Everytime I look at it, I see something different.
 
The suspect K, died his hair blond...look at the wildlife cam close, do you see the roots on his head darker around the face? The t-shirt and shoe type are A-typical worn by skateboarder types/surfers. I don't think a grown man wears skateboarding shoes.
 
Sometimes I stare at it...and it looks like he's looking at the LE and you do see the bill of a ball cap turned backwards.

Then sometimes it looks as if he is turning and you see the left side of his face.
 
Law enforcement is also moving and not nearly as blurry as the 'stalker'.

YES! LOL. Just belatedly reached that conclusion myself - then of course I remembered the deer pic - also moving!
 
I cropped the reflection on the vehicle. I think I see a mustache and glasses...if I'm right then this is indeed an older guy. Then again if I'm right...we need to ask Toni what the neighbor across the street looked like.

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He does cast a shadow. The shadow is cast on the hood of the car behind him.
 
Here's my problem with the photos - the law enforcement officers cast shadows, the 'stalker' does not.

Actually, Mary, he does. If you look towards the left of his image, on the ground between the trucks, you'll see a blob/darker spot, which appears to be his shadow.

I would love to know where light sources are, and what the weather was like that night - cloudy, moonlit, et cetera. Seems to me that there are a few areas on the photos of the LEOs which may indicate where the stalker would have been hanging out, but I can't tell without knowing what/where light sources were.

Also, I looked on Truilia (sp?) and got some info on the sale of their house. It was at a huge loss, apparently, and sold in July of this year. There is one photo of the front of the house, which is very interesting.

I am curious about how the roof was shaped, and how one could walk on it without making enough noise to be heard by those inside. There are places on my own roof that someone can be walking, and no one would hear them...over the attic, for example. However, there are areas where the footsteps would definitely be heard (e.g. over the laundry/kitchen, and the far side of the living room) where I have heard tree guys' footsteps.

Seems to me that if there was some sort of space between the roof and the ceiling, that the footsteps would not have been heard...depending on how large the space is, and where that space is located and/or insulated.

**New observation (from me). I've been rereading the blog again, and note that at one point, when both parents had left, the front door keypad was pressed. That was the point where the puppy growled.

What is interesting to me is that it seems that both parents' cars were gone, and, while Morgan was still home, it would have been reasonable to assume she'd already gone to class. This would present a good opportunity for the stalker to enter the premise, and poke around some. However, the keypad was never successfully unlocked, and no one entered. Morgan told her Mom when she came home about this attempted entry, and LEO was called...a new "footprint" was found, but not photographed, and no prints were taken from the keypad (which is reasonable; it would have been close to impossible to print the pad, and since no crime had occurred [only an attempt], and this was not felony status yet, there was no detective assigned...).

To me, this brings the possibility of the stalker accessing the house into a far greater reality than it had been before. That had been a point of concern for me - that the property had not been accessed before Morgan's death. But I think the instance above demonstrates that the stalker tried to gain entry, and, most likely gained entry at another point of time, before Morgan's death. In other words, one of the things stalkers do is access the home of the victim(s), and steal stuff/move stuff/go through stuff; often, this leads to an escalation of the fixation, or the harassment, or the stalking...and sometimes, even to the kidnap/murder of the victim.

This is a case where a lot of little things add to big things. It's a matter of looking at it as coincidence v. intentional, and while little things, on their own, don't always add up to much, I'm beginning to see the larger picture. I always think of paintings when I'm seeing circumstantial things...individual brush strokes lead to a picture. Same thing with lots of little things happening...they lead to a big thing. I don't believe that coincidence can be blamed for all of this stuff.

I really would love to read the AR in it's entirety, both from the ME/Coroner who gave and then changed the COD, and from the independent ME/Coroner/pathologist afterwards. I'd be very interested to see both, side by side, and see what evidence they comment on...if any.

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Here is the picture of the stalker watching the LE leave. The blog said he must have turned his head right when the deer cam went off.
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I know some may find this ridiculous to even suggest but I have a strange intuition that this body resembles a female attempting to disguise her female appearance and look as a male..the stiff,"Ken doll" like hair imo could easily coincide with a wig..

It appears as tho with the intent of disguising her female body that she does have something on possibly under the jjacket or pullover that we see it has on..the frame and stature and somehow just the female characteristics in general imo appear to stand out even in this still shot.

All jmo and i know most will find it ludicrous..lol
 
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