CO - The Stalking and Mysterious Death of Morgan Ingram #1

[pianokiller]

I'm going to have my dad send me some pictures from his hunting camera maybe we could use for comparison?

About the roof as well; my grandma lived in a classic "farmhouse" with gabled roofs and we were able to walk on the roof without anyone knowing unless you were walking a lot the outside of the roof. For some reason when you got near the edge you could hear the footsteps. Also when my dad (a former Army Sergeant at 6'5) is on the roof of our house I wouldn't hear him unless he was pounding in shingles or doing something besides walking.

JMO, I'm still on the fence, but I will try to get some photos tonight or tomorrow from his hunting camera.

 

[Lera213]

new post http://morganingram.com/wordpress/?m=20120908

 

[NancyA]

I know some may find this ridiculous to even suggest but I have a strange intuition that this body resembles a female attempting to disguise her female appearance and look as a male..the stiff,"Ken doll" like hair imo could easily coincide with a wig..

It appears as tho with the intent of disguising her female body that she does have something on possibly under the jjacket or pullover that we see it has on..the frame and stature and somehow just the female characteristics in general imo appear to stand out even in this still shot.

All jmo and i know most will find it ludicrous..lol

You could very well be right, shoulder pads maybe? There is something odd about the arms too, they look far too slim for the apparent breadth of the shoulders, and if I go with the whole baseball cap worn backwards with the person looking away from the camera that could very well be long female blonde rolled up under the bill.

Ooh - also, I was the one who asked about the arrest, I found the link someone else had posted but thanks for doing it again.

 

[Herding Cats]

I'm starting to think that there is another female involved...B. Seems that there was tension between the two, for some reason or another. In the comments of Sept. 2 (I think), there is a link with an image from B's facebook which shows Morgan. Toni replies with some interesting information.

This could be an interesting thing...

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Herding Cats

 

[Spotlight]

Thank you for the welcome SmoothOperator, the reason I normally lurk is because by the time I have caught up on the threads that I follow, someone has already posted the questions/observations that I have in a much more eloquent way than I could ever do, as in your reply to me just now.

But I still want to know can anybody else see his reflection in the back passanger window of the car in the bottom left of the picture?

 

[Herding Cats]

Spotlight, I have to run off for a little while, but wanted to say "Welcome!!" and that I'll look for the reflection when I come back. How interesting if you can see something there, you know?

Also, in reading some of the replies under the posts, I've discovered that Morgan graduated from Aspen High, and not the one that K. graduated from. Unsure where B. graduated from, or why there seems to have been bad blood between them, but in poking around B's facebook, there are some interesting pix and comments...enough to make me wonder about a female being involved. Kinda reminds me of Diane Michele whatshername and her boyfriend from Texas...both participated in the murder of a girl Diane considered a rival. Interesting and horrifying story, that one (I'll look for the proper names and case info when I get back). Not exactly a parallel, but it's interesting to note it, sort of an aside.

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Herding Cats

BTW, I note some guests on this thread. I invite all of you to sign up...this is a very cool website, and a lot of interesting and very smart folk post here...

 

[SmoothOperator]

Of course alot of the image quality is also based upon the quality of the wildlife cam itself..that said below ive posted a pic snappedof a deer running through the frame of this wildlife cam..as you can see hard to distinguish characteristics and extremely blurry..
Below that is a pic snapped showing much better clarity due to the fact the animals rate of speed when crossing thru the frame of the cam is considerably slower..

**just couple examples to show that there is likely very good,logical reasons as to why the clarity of these type snapshots vary widely..**

ETA:link for above images..
http://hog-blog.com/entering-the-world-of-game-cameras/

 

[Lera213]

I so want two of these camera's for my house!

 

[annemc2]

Oh yeah, I remember that H_C -

it was Diane Zamora and David Graham (who killed Adrienne Jones). A chilling case.

 

[Thyme]

I lightened up the cam pic using IrfanView. Not the best clarity. I believe the reflection of this person is in the window behind the drivers window. I have read the whole blog and my thoughts are that it could possibly be someone from the Ranch area..given the worn trails at the back of the house...perhaps someone that would have access to the drug Amitriptyline used by vets.

Edit: I noticed that before lightening the pic if you look closely at the persons back..it looks as though they are wearing something under the shirt that goes across their left shoulder down to the right side of the waist.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Spotlight, I have to run off for a little while, but wanted to say "Welcome!!" and that I'll look for the reflection when I come back. How interesting if you can see something there, you know?

Also, in reading some of the replies under the posts, I've discovered that Morgan graduated from Aspen High, and not the one that K. graduated from. Unsure where B. graduated from, or why there seems to have been bad blood between them, but in poking around B's facebook, there are some interesting pix and comments...enough to make me wonder about a female being involved. Kinda reminds me of Diane Michele whatshername and her boyfriend from Texas...both participated in the murder of a girl Diane considered a rival. Interesting and horrifying story, that one (I'll look for the proper names and case info when I get back). Not exactly a parallel, but it's interesting to note it, sort of an aside.

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Herding Cats

BTW, I note some guests on this thread. I invite all of you to sign up...this is a very cool website, and a lot of interesting and very smart folk post here...

In now further thinking this theory through about looking at the angle of possible female involvement..as I pointed out earlier there being a somewhat resemblance to female characteristics of the image from the wildlife cam.. I also now in thinking back to what her mom has shared via her blog I will say that my antennaes actually perked up more about female,B than they did with her boyfriend,K..you add to that already piqued interest I had in B when I read the accounts and involvement of B's mom,C it soared thru the roof in my suspicion of the two of them having some level of involvement in these happenings surrounding the Ingram family..

What on earth could even possibly be the legit reason/cause for this grown woman,a mother herself to actually involve and insert herself into this equation??.. I personally can come up with nothing that would even begin to explain or rationalize this womans need to insert herself into these occurences throughout the second half of 2011..she went so far as to at one point in time to be the actual source of stating to neighbors that Morgan was actually "missing",insinuating she'd been abducted or otherwise..this just merely one of many different times that this woman openly and fully interjected herself and at times even her daughter directly into the ongoing case..

My suspicions atleast somewhat validated when reading that this woman and her daughter quite obviously were on LE radar as well which led to both at different times being interviewed/questioned about Morgans stalker case by detectives working on the case..

Not at all attempting to state as fact or certainty that these two females had some level of involvement in Morgans case..but rather just sharing some of my own personal suspicions from what we know thus far and just simply exploring those different angles to get others opinions,feed back,or intuitions on any of these various people or issues...

All in all merely jmo and nothing more

 

[concernedmother]

The pic above looks like an older man to me. But what I dont get is the stalker was so good no one could catch him and he wears a really light or white shirt?

 

[inthedark14]

I'm starting to think that there is another female involved...B. Seems that there was tension between the two, for some reason or another. In the comments of Sept. 2 (I think), there is a link with an image from B's facebook which shows Morgan. Toni replies with some interesting information.

This could be an interesting thing...

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Herding Cats

The idea of a female being involved is also compelling because M was not sexually violated. Thats awful to even type but when male stalkers escalate to murder that is usually part of the equation.

My heart goes out to this poor girl's family. I hope they get the answers they seek. I'm only surprised this didn't show up on WS until now.

Always MOO

 

[rollinginit]

Here's some pictures from my hubby's wildlife cam. The dates are NOT right b/c he doesn't care to figure out how to change them.:what:
It really depends on how advanced your camera is.

A daylight cam picture

Here's a random picture at night

 

[Swamp Fox Trot]

Like everyone keeps saying, we need to wait and see what unfolds in the story, but that, too, is odd. If this family wants the case solved, why tell the story in bits and pieces? It keeps people coming back their way, which provides a large number of hits on their web page, and from an web page analytic standpoint, shows a large number of repeat visitors, as well as unique visitors. To me it sounds like pre-SEO for a future book or movie deal, or something along those lines.

I know people who've had murdered children, and they don't tell their stories in fits and starts. They blurt everything out, wanting everyone - anyone - to listen. They don't spin a tale of intrigue and suspense. They want answers. They want help.

<modsnip>.

I agree it is an odd narrative technique. It sounds to me the mom is trying to sell the stalker/suicide argument by tightly controlling the flow of information to the reader. My first impression was that it was a hoax.

 

[Pensfan]

This is an interesting case.

I don&#8217;t feel comfortable posting the lethal dosage of Amitriptyline, but as you know, anything can be found on the internet. Multiply lethal amount of Amitriptyline by her guessed weight in kilograms. Then divide by 25 (mgs in one pill -her likely dosage). You will find that she needed to swallow TONS of pills for a fatal Amitriptyline overdose (multiple handfuls).

A stalker could find easier and much faster ways to kill someone than force the victim to swallow multiple handfuls of pills. Some suicidal people vomit after they try to ingest a huge amount of pills, so the stalker would need to &#8220;hang around&#8221; and make sure that she didn&#8217;t vomit if he/she really wanted to kill her. This sounds extremely risky for a stalker that didn't want to be caught and arrested.

Pensfan
verified psychiatric mental health nurse

 

[SmoothOperator]

In using Thyme's lightened version of the photo I just further cropped it and then drew the red arrow pointing directly to the area that some believe appears to be a belt,work type utility belt that the stalker has on..

Hope that helps for those who were wanting further indication where this utility type belt is being seen in this reflection..

 

[deca]

I have read most of the blog. My question is did LE ever question all the neighbors?? Because if someone (the perp) is going in and out of their house all night or leaving the house and not taking the car for long periods of time it seems like someone living with them would suspect something...
The blog really points to K (who from google-fuing seems to be into hunting), but it could also be the women mentioned above..none of those people lived alone.

 

[snarkymalarkey]

I want to thank everybody for taking the time to not only read the thread I started, but also for visiting the blog and actively discussing it.

I was wondering if it is possible that the person captured on the camera was actually wearing a dark color, and also if the person had on a tshirt with ripped/cut sleeves, and that's what gives the shoulder that edge/point on it.

I notice in the other wild life cam examples, the deer at night appears white, but it most likely is not a white deer. Also the tree branch/leaves are white, but they most likely are brown and green.

I also think the person is not leaning against the car, but in moving quickly, and also possible turning their head, hence the blur. So i agree with the poster that talked about the police officers being captured better, because they were most likely walking at a much slower pace.

Sometimes it's interesting to look at a black and white photo with the colors inverted, but I only have paint, and can't invert colors on it.

 

[rollinginit]

Here's a cropped picture of the stalker.