CO - The Stalking and Mysterious Death of Morgan Ingram #1

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The neighborhood is Aspen Equestrian Estates. The “farm” behind their subdivision is an equestrian center. Could the drug used for humans and horses that ended Morgan’s life have come from there? Smoking or snorting it might explain no traces of it in her stomach.

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Interesting about the Aspen Equestrian Estates. on the blog in the comments
http://morganingram.com/wordpress/?p=734
they worked court appointed volunteers to perform their community service
Ingrams boarded their horse there and Morgan was there alot.

http://www.sopristherapyservices.org/


My suspect list is growing.lol
 
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I'm not sure how to say this without breaking any of the rules, but I wonder if the death has anything to do with the fact the stalker would soon be losing access to Morgan. Like maybe he couldn't stand the thought of her not living there, and he would rather kill her than see that happen.

Oooh nice thought October!

I personally think she suffered from depression before all this started and in the end i think it was just too much for her.

As i said to a member in PM,everyone who knew me when i was younger(family etc)knew i suffered depression,i also self harmed but not once did they ever know when things had got that bad for me that i would end up self harming.
On the night i took an OD of paracetamol i was in friends house having a great night laughing and joking knowing that when i left i was going to the shop to buy the tablets and take them.
 
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Oh i hope im not in trouble for posting that!?.(about what i think happened to Morgan)
Nurse would it help if i told you i watch a video of nurses every night before i go to bed? lol.
 
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Read the blog again with all the comments and it amazes me the locals that never heard of this case until someone directed them to the blog.
 
  • #365
Oh i hope im not in trouble for posting that!?.(about what i think happened to Morgan)
Nurse would it help if i told you i watch a video of nurses every night before i go to bed? lol.

We need to walk a really W I D E berth around that topic. This is not about trying to diagnose mental conditions but rather to discuss stalking and follow along with the mother. She is putting her heart and soul into sharing each day of their ordeal to raise awareness. She also, below posts, adds a lot of hindsight which in and of itself may be helpful to anyone currently experiencing a stalker.
 
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I just read in the blog, on sept 9th in the comments, that they had someone scale the tree and climb on roof without making any noise.
 
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Oooh nice thought October!

I personally think she suffered from depression before all this started and in the end i think it was just too much for her.

As i said to a member in PM,everyone who knew me when i was younger(family etc)knew i suffered depression,i also self harmed but not once did they ever know when things had got that bad for me that i would end up self harming.
On the night i took an OD of paracetamol i was in friends house having a great night laughing and joking knowing that when i left i was going to the shop to buy the tablets and take them.

In the photo taken of her during her last two weeks alive, she does look depressed; however, since they did not find any undigested pills in her stomach, and it would have taken a lot of them, I just don't see how that occurred that way...Secondly, mom hints that there was a second drug found in her system.

I am wondering if she looked so terrible not from the stress of the situation but rather because she was being slowly poisoned to make her look depressed with the mystery agent followed by the lethal dose of amitriptyline likely stolen in liquid form from the horse ranch behind them.

I doubt the amitriptyline was locked up as it is not a controlled substance.

I thought I had read the whole blog through this afternoon but can't figure out who "M" is...I had only read about K, B, and E. I haven't read anything that leads me away from K at this point, but the rocky relationship with B concerns me as a possible instigation factor.

I don't see why this couldn't be a young person who wears purple Etnies and grew up hunting....In my mind, the military expertise required to commit this crime could be googled rather than experienced.
 
  • #368
Just wondering something........Morgan posted a lot of stuff about face creams in her blog. Sounds like she loved them (me too)

Her blog was public. Is it not possible her stalker was reading it?

Can you inject those meds in her face scrub???????
 
  • #369
I think twinkiesmom makes a very GOOD point about Morgan being poisoned slowly
 
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In the photo taken of her during her last two weeks alive, she does look depressed; however, since they did not find any undigested pills in her stomach, and it would have taken a lot of them, I just don't see how that occurred that way...Secondly, mom hints that there was a second drug found in her system.

I am wondering if she looked so terrible not from the stress of the situation but rather because she was being slowly poisoned to make her look depressed with the mystery agent followed by the lethal dose of amitriptyline likely stolen in liquid form from the horse ranch behind them.

I doubt the amitriptyline was locked up as it is not a controlled substance.

I thought I had read the whole blog through this afternoon but can't figure out who "M" is...I had only read about K, B, and E. I haven't read anything that leads me away from K at this point, but the rocky relationship with B concerns me as a possible instigation factor.

I don't see why this couldn't be a young person who wears purple Etnies and grew up hunting....In my mind, the military expertise required to commit this crime could be googled rather than experienced.
"M" = Morgan? If not, what is the context...abbreviation in posts here or on the blog?
 
  • #372
Just throwing this info out there b/c thankfully I don't have much personal experience with stalkers. I live on the outskirts of a medium-sized college town. When we moved to our new house a couple of years ago I introduced myself to a neighbor down the street and she told me that she has had a stalker for ten years.

She told me what he looks like, how he tends to approach the house (on foot, having parked elsewhere in the neighborhood), and warned me to be on the lookout. She has HUGE motion-senored floodlights around her property, two german shepherds (one specially trained as a watchdog, she told me), and security cameras (at least one can be seen above the garage). I frequently see a security/alarm company truck in her driveway.

If she hadn't told me about the stalker I would have assumed that she was just very cautious/paranoid. Other neighbors who have lived her longer than I and know her quite well have described her as "paranoid" (which would be appropriate for someone who has been stalked for that length of time).

I also have a friend who is a scanner junkie. She told me that my street was mentioned the other day and that the caller was the neighbor who is being stalked. There was some talk on the scanner about how the caller was "known" to the sheriff's dept (probably b/c she has called numerous times before) but I heard nothing else about it.

I'm just thinking that if the neighbor hadn't told me about her stalker and if my nosy friend hadn't told me about hearing the police called out on the scanner that I would be completely oblivious to the whole affair. Probably every time she calls someone out, there is police presence on our (tiny, semi-rural) street yet I've never seen it. Some of the neighbors who are not "in the know" likely have no awareness of it, since the stalker allegedly only poses a danger to the one woman who is the object of his attention.

I don't know any more details about her experience (except that the stalker had supposedly cut fence lines at some point) but this just goes to show how people in the Ingram's neighborhood could have had no idea what was going on despite the police presence. Weird, wild stuff.
 
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I didnt realize how close to the house the tree was. He climbed up to the roof in no time.

Just a gentle reminder to all my WS buddies....trim all tree branches away from your house as there are many reasons---rodents, termites, stalkers, hurricanes, stalkers.....

I have been a victim of stalking along time ago and it went on sporadically for 13 yrs until a law was passed and LE took swift and immediate action (the stalker had created a huge file for LE). The stalker sat behind me in a H.S. class and I had never so much as said hello to him. He had been institutionalized and invariably went to prison.

Also, I frequented a clothes store a while ago that used a two-way mirror in the dressing room. The store owner did jail time.

Creeps, ugh......
 
  • #374
I think twinkiesmom makes a very GOOD point about Morgan being poisoned slowly

Thanks!

I have to say, I followed the Julie Jensen case here and on CourtTV, and she was made sick by antifreeze very slowly and then finished off with a large dose. Her husband was ultimately convicted but went free for many years. During her protracted illness, she was made out to be something of a hypochondriac and crazy while her poisoner kept her confined and did not get her help until it was too late.

I find it very telling that Morgan was too ill to do ballet in her last weeks when that was the very thing that relieved her stress.

I lost the post in which someone suggested the cloned cell phone. (Found it now...hat tip to MayraMM.) I think you are on the right track and hope you will post that suggestion on the mom's blog. The stalker knew all her movements and not just from watching her car pull up. These folks lived on their cell phones with every movement captured in text message form. That is how the mom is able to recreate all this material on the blog now. He did hear some conversations from the roof but appeared to have much more information on comings and goings than could be overheard.

I find it extremely ironic that the family seemed to feel some degree of safety within the home when that was the place she was the least safe...Morgan was clearly safer when staying with random friends and keeping her movements unpredictable. I think it's really sad that they didn't send her away to school with the puppy even if it meant her living with Grandpa and taking courses online.


Edited to add link:
Here is the picture of her 2 weeks before she died...not only did she look sick/depressed, but her appetite was off and she appears gaunt:
http://www.morganingram.com/stalking.html

A drug could cause the appetite to decrease....Not all drugs show up on a tox screen, particularly if she had been given small doses over a period of time.
 
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Did they only get the one pic or is there more to come?
 
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"M" = Morgan? If not, what is the context...abbreviation in posts here or on the blog?

You're right...M=Morgan....don't know who C is though, even though I think I read all the posts.
 
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You're right...M=Morgan....don't know who C is though, even though I think I read all the posts.
Maybe you can ask whomever posted it (if you can't figger it out by context).

It can get confusing enough with double initials, let alone single initials.
 
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Okay, I mean NO disrespect to the mom and her blog. I actually love her blog and I recommed people read it before making any judgements.

I am a timeline kind of person. I like things in an outline b/c it helps me go back and look at dates. Sometimes dates tell you a lot. I have made a timeline of major events that have happened so far in this blog.

I am not putting all the details in...just the major details about the stalker. These are wrote in my own words. In mom's blog.....there is WAY more detail about each event. And details about the fear they felt.

well, anyway....here is the timeline I made. The mistakes are my own. I still recommed people read the blog to get to the "meat" of the story and see the pictures that are attached. IMO...I just like timelines. As always, it is okay if somebody wants to copy, correct, or add any information to the timeline.

IMO.....

August 2, 2011- The family just returned from vacation. Morgan drove to Carbondale to show her friends her new pup. When she returned, she heard tapping on her window before her shower.

Aug 4-5. 2011-Morgan goes to town with friends. She returned after 11pm and heard tapping on her window within 15 minutes of being home.

Aug 6, 2011- Hangs out with friends again. Arrives home after 10pm and within 15 minutes, tapping on the windows again. Parents check outside

Aug 8, 2011- Hangs with friends again. She’s having problems with her phone. Within 10 minutes after arriving home, while she is undressing, she notices her bathroom window is open. Dad checks. Morgan starts sleeping in her parents walk in closet. Morgan also breaks out in a rash on her face.

Aug 9, 2011- Mom calls LE that morning. They notice a footprint outside. They install an outdoor motion detector. Lots of stuff about the neighbors deck chairs being moved around and they have not been home for a month. The parents also discuss the window being open.

Aug 10th- Morgan hung out with friends. Came home and slept in the parents closet. Something was thrown at the closet window.

Aug 15, 2011- The parents see pinpoint red lights when doing their stake-out

Aug 16, 2011- Another stakeout and pinpoint red lights.

Aug 22, 2011- Door Knob is broken. They install keypad door knob. They are awoken by 2 beeps from the keypad. Motion lights went off.

Aug 23, 2011- Neighbors deck chairs are moved again. Mom calls the police. They walk the property and check the locks on the neighbors door. It’s unlocked. Nobody there.

Aug 24, 2011- Rocks on the window. Mom call LE. They checked the neighbors house again and it was unlocked. Then mom discovered her sliding glass door lock was broken.

Aug 25, 2011- Rocks, lights, detectors and alarms go off. Mom is sitting on the couch, and sees the stalker run up to the door, then ran beside the house setting all the lights off.

Aug 27, 2011- They had just come back from a small vacation. At 2am, they were awoke by taps on the window. Light and everything came on all over the yard.

Aug 29, 2011- They hang the wildlife cams up. 11pm it all started. Banging and all that. They finally call the LE at 1am. LE comes and checks everything out. They leave. A little while later mom remembers the wildlife cam. They get it and it has 12 pictures. One is suspected to be the stalker. They call the LE back right away.

Aug 31, 2011- Light go off.

Sept 1, 2011- Morgan is left alone during the daytime. Morgan hears somebody entering/pressing stuff on the keypad. Later when LE comes, there is some footprints.

Sept 2, 2011- More lights going off.

Sept 3, 2011- At 10 (Morgan was not home) a big rock hit the window. This is when the LE did the stakeout. Within 5 minutes of LE leaving after it was a bust, rocks back on the window.

Sept 4-5, 2011-Light and stuff kept going off. Mom thought she seen “K” running between cars in their driveway.

Sept 6, 2011- Morgan was asleep on the couch and a rock hit the window.

Sept 11, 2011- Mom was awoke by the dog barking at 1:45 am. She sees nothing but the lights go off.
 
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