Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Emergency #5

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Officials confirm 1st case of coronavirus in Sacramento County; patient in isolation
LOCAL NEWS
Posted: Feb 21, 2020 / 11:01 AM PST / Updated: Feb 21, 2020 / 11:11 AM PST


SACRAMENTO, Calif. (KTXL) — The first case of novel coronavirus has been confirmed in Sacramento County, county health officials said Friday.

The adult patient returned from China to the United States on Feb. 2, according to a release from Sacramento County Public Health Services.

“The individual took precautionary measures during travel and has self-quarantined since returning. During the quarantine period, the individual began exhibiting mild symptoms. In consultation with the individual’s primary care provider, Sacramento County Public Health coordinated testing with the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the California Department of Public Health (CDPH),” the news release stated.

Officials said the patient is now showing no symptoms but will remain in isolation until they are cleared.

The public’s risk of exposure is “extremely low,” officials said.

Officials confirm 1st case of coronavirus in Sacramento County; patient in isolation
 
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Officials confirm 1st case of coronavirus in Sacramento County; patient in isolation
LOCAL NEWS
Posted: Feb 21, 2020 / 11:01 AM PST / Updated: Feb 21, 2020 / 11:11 AM PST


SACRAMENTO, Calif. (KTXL) — The first case of novel coronavirus has been confirmed in Sacramento County, county health officials said Friday.

The adult patient returned from China to the United States on Feb. 2, according to a release from Sacramento County Public Health Services.

“The individual took precautionary measures during travel and has self-quarantined since returning. During the quarantine period, the individual began exhibiting mild symptoms. In consultation with the individual’s primary care provider, Sacramento County Public Health coordinated testing with the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the California Department of Public Health (CDPH),” the news release stated.

Officials said the patient is now showing no symptoms but will remain in isolation until they are cleared.

The public’s risk of exposure is “extremely low,” officials said.

Officials confirm 1st case of coronavirus in Sacramento County; patient in isolation
Officials confirm 1st case of coronavirus in Sacramento County; patient in isolation
LOCAL NEWS
Posted: Feb 21, 2020 / 11:01 AM PST / Updated: Feb 21, 2020 / 11:11 AM PST


SACRAMENTO, Calif. (KTXL) — The first case of novel coronavirus has been confirmed in Sacramento County, county health officials said Friday.

The adult patient returned from China to the United States on Feb. 2, according to a release from Sacramento County Public Health Services.

“The individual took precautionary measures during travel and has self-quarantined since returning. During the quarantine period, the individual began exhibiting mild symptoms. In consultation with the individual’s primary care provider, Sacramento County Public Health coordinated testing with the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the California Department of Public Health (CDPH),” the news release stated.

Officials said the patient is now showing no symptoms but will remain in isolation until they are cleared.

The public’s risk of exposure is “extremely low,” officials said.

Officials confirm 1st case of coronavirus in Sacramento County; patient in isolation


Doesn’t this suggest a longer than 14 day incubation period?

frankly, at this point, it seems like w/asymptotic carriers and an unclear incubation period, we are basically in a bad way.
 
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I had to look to see if Sacramento is in Humboldt County, but no...

New Confirmed Coronavirus Case In Humboldt, Sacramento Counties

Humboldt County health officials have announced that they were treating their first confirmed case of coronavirus and a second person was being tested for the illness.

Meanwhile, Sacramento County Public Health officials also announced their first confirmed case.

“Currently, the individual is asymptomatic, but will remain home for mandatory isolation until cleared by Sacramento County Public Health,” the office said in a press release. “Sacramento County Public Health’s investigation determined that currently, the public’s risk of exposure is extremely low.”

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why low risk? Who is this person in Sacramento and how did they come in contact with the virus? Same question to Humboldt County.
 
  • #884
Doesn’t this suggest a longer than 14 day incubation period?

frankly, at this point, it seems like w/asymptotic carriers and an unclear incubation period, we are basically in a bad way.
Agreed......we've seen other indications that its longer. Silent carriers makes it difficult to slow down.....IMO
 
  • #885
Doesn’t this suggest a longer than 14 day incubation period?

frankly, at this point, it seems like w/asymptotic carriers and an unclear incubation period, we are basically in a bad way.

Yes, it was suggested that itcould take up to 24 days:

The largest study of coronavirus patients so far suggests it could take up to 24 days after exposure for symptoms to show

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the incubation period is believed to be two to 14 days.

But research published from a group of Chinese scientists led by Zhong Nanshan, who discovered the SARS virus, suggests it might take as long as 24 days for a person to start showing symptoms after being exposed to the novel coronavirus. The study examined 1,099 coronavirus cases from 522 hospitals across 31 provinces in China, making it the largest coronavirus case study to date, though it has not yet been peer-reviewed.
 
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I had to look to see if Sacramento is in Humboldt County, but no...

New Confirmed Coronavirus Case In Humboldt, Sacramento Counties

Humboldt County health officials have announced that they were treating their first confirmed case of coronavirus and a second person was being tested for the illness.

Meanwhile, Sacramento County Public Health officials also announced their first confirmed case.

“Currently, the individual is asymptomatic, but will remain home for mandatory isolation until cleared by Sacramento County Public Health,” the office said in a press release. “Sacramento County Public Health’s investigation determined that currently, the public’s risk of exposure is extremely low.”

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why low risk? Who is this person in Sacramento and how did they come in contact with the virus? Same question to Humboldt County.
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In Shandong Province, officials said 207 cases had emerged in a prison in the city of Jining, 450 miles east of Wuhan. The outbreak prompted the local authorities to dismiss the director and party secretary of the provincial justice department, which oversees the prisons there, along with seven other officials.

The cases there may have spread from a prison guard who developed a cough on Feb. 12 and tested positive for the virus the next day, according to a statement by the provincial government. A second guard was also found to have the virus that day, prompting the prison authorities to begin screening the entire prison population.

In all, 2,077 inmates and prison workers were tested in Shandong, with 200 prisoners and seven guards testing positive for the coronavirus. No deaths have been reported.

Coronavirus Live Updates: Fears of Global Spread as Cases Accelerate in Iran and South Korea
 
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Sorry I know this is repetitive:

Americans with coronavirus were flown home over CDC objections: report
More than a dozen Americans who had tested positive for coronavirus and were flown home alongside others without the virus were transported despite objections from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), The Washington Post reported on Thursday.

The 14 Americans who tested positive were among more than 300 who arrived back in the United States earlier this week after being evacuated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan, which has been the center of scrutiny over a coronavirus outbreak on board.

When those individuals tested positive for the virus, U.S. officials had to make a choice as to whether to let them fly home alongside the other passengers.

The State Department and some Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) officials decided to allow it while the CDC objected, warning of the risk of the disease spreading on the plane, the Post reported.

*edit to add: the passengers tested positive before boarding

Get that poor dead horse back out...

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Catching up and watching today’s WHO conference, just wanted to say wow (again), that per Doc T, “In the past 24 hours China has reported 892 new confirmed cases and 118 deaths”.

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Just wondering, how many people are both diagnosed and die from the flu per day in China, and how “892” and “118” compare to this.

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ETA: So it seems they’re concerned about the increasing numbers in Shandong Province.



ETA2: “Transmission Dynamics” (good words)
 
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You suggest 'specialized containment rooms' built for the specific purpose of hosting Covid-19 patients... but do such things exist that governments could use, or would they have to be built very, very fast?

I was referring to the isolation units that are currently being used for confirmed cases here in the US.

Those units have been built specifically for that purpose and should be full proof as long as proper protocols are followed. But due to the fact that those units are very limited, we’ll have to find alternative measures.
As quickly as Hubei was overwhelmed, and given all of the knowns and unknowns about this virus, my point is that I don’t believe that caring for infected patients should take place in the same facility with non infected patients UNLESS the facility was built for that specific purpose. For the sake of containment, if we see a sudden outbreak of substantial size, we should consider turning an existing hospital into a quarantine treatment facility.
I know that’s not feasible with communities that have only one hospital, but there are several cities in the US that have multiple hospitals in close proximity.
If it blows up here like it has in China, then there will come a time that containment won’t be realistic. But until that time occurs, I think this would be the best route to go on an interim basis. It would allow for the best care for both infected and non infected patients and would drastically reduce the chance for cross contamination.
I hope that all makes sense...

Specialized isolation units would be the best case scenario, but realistically not feasible. If global containment fails (and it looks like we may be heading that way), then large scale containment/treatment centers may end up being a new “norm” in the near future. If it can’t be contained, then the next best option is to find creative ways to limit the impact as best we can.

I know the main topic of conversation in the media and on this thread has been in regards to containment, but I’m starting to wonder what our world is going to look like if the situation in Wuhan gets replicated on a global scale. Working remotely and self isolation won’t be long term options for the mass majority. IMOO, COVID-19 has the potential to completely change the world as we know it.

Let’s hope this virus either burns itself out in relatively short order, or that scientists can create an effective vaccine very quickly!

If not, then we may have to learn to accept it as a way of life as we do with the flu and the common cold. The only other option would be to promote social distancing. Think of the impact that would have.... schools, colleges, sporting events, restaurants, manufacturing facilities, all forms of public transportation, etc,...
 
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U.S. CDC official Nancy Messonnier: "We are working with state, local, and territorial health departments to ready our public health workforce to respond to local cases and the possibility this outbreak could become a pandemic"

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Several U.S. passengers of the Diamond Princess cruise ship who have tested positive for coronavirus are "seriously ill," U.S. CDC says; they're being treated in Japan

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The recording of the U.S. CDC press briefing on coronavirus is now available. You can list to it here: https://cdc.gov/media/releases

BREAKING: Saudi Arabia bans citizens from traveling to Iran due to coronavirus outbreak

BREAKING: Kuwait bans all flights to and from Iran due to coronavirus, will deny entry to all foreigners who were recently in Iran

U.S. CDC: 18 Americans who were evacuated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship have tested positive for coronavirus, another 10 tested positive in Japan

UPDATE: California reports 1 new case of coronavirus in traveler who had self-quarantined since returning from China
 
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Doesn’t this suggest a longer than 14 day incubation period?

I too expect that in some folks it can take longer than 14 days to show symptoms. But no, this article doesn't especially suggest that. Because the article says the person is no longer showing symptoms. So, during their quarantine, they began showing symptoms, then spent x number of days with symptoms of the illness, and now is recovered enough to not show symptoms. If we assume their quarantine started on Feb 2 (the day they returned from China, I think?) then 19 days have elapsed since the process began, but we don't know long they were ill.

In other words, let's say they were ill for seven days and only just today are symptom-free -- that would mean their symptoms began 12 days into their quarantine.

The only way they took longer than 14 days to show symptoms is if their illness lasted less than 5 days before the symptoms went away.

MOO

Who is this person in Sacramento and how did they come in contact with the virus? Same question to Humboldt County.

Both news reports (Sacramento and Humboldt) say their respective patients recently returned from China. I assume these are among the 5000 ish people who California supposedly asked to self-quarantine, as reported in the last few days on this thread.

Again, MOO.
 
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In Shandong Province, officials said 207 cases had emerged in a prison in the city of Jining, 450 miles east of Wuhan. The outbreak prompted the local authorities to dismiss the director and party secretary of the provincial justice department, which oversees the prisons there, along with seven other officials.

The cases there may have spread from a prison guard who developed a cough on Feb. 12 and tested positive for the virus the next day, according to a statement by the provincial government. A second guard was also found to have the virus that day, prompting the prison authorities to begin screening the entire prison population.

In all, 2,077 inmates and prison workers were tested in Shandong, with 200 prisoners and seven guards testing positive for the coronavirus. No deaths have been reported.

Coronavirus Live Updates: Fears of Global Spread as Cases Accelerate in Iran and South Korea

Wow, I feel like things are blowing up today. Makes sense I guess- it’s been now 2-3 weeks since the travel started shutting down in places.

OT a bit, and I may have an unpopular feeling here, but this news about the prisoners is really sad IMO. Because there are SO many of them now, it will not being contained, and I am certain they will get terrible care. We know how the “un-imprisoned” are being treated over there, one can only imagine how the prisoners are treated. They will essentially be left for dead. No effort at all will be made to help them IMO.

I’m all for justice, but with a virus like this, it’s sad IMO that so many will be left to suffer. And we don’t know what they are even imprisoned for (i.e. I doubt they all deserve the DP). MOO MOO.
 
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The efficiency of this virus in it’s spread is impresssive, even if these are people are asymptomatic or only carriers.

This tells us volumes about the true value of Herd Immunity

Yes, that is what many epidemiologists were saying in the beginning and even now. Let it go wild, and create herd immunity. But doing so, it's like standing by for all to approve that folks will die for the cause of humanity. Just like is now but different. There is NO GOOD ANSWER to this MOO. Both ways are knowing folks will "die for the cause" iykwim
 
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While this is in regards to “influenza” this document outlines preparedness for pandemic

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pdf/pandemic-influenza-strategy-2005.pdf

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Individuals and Families

The critical role of individuals and families in controlling a pandemic cannot be overstated. Modeling of the transmission of influenza vividly illustrates the impact of one individual’s behavior on the spread of disease, by showing that an infection carried by one person can be transmitted to tens or hundreds of others. For this reason, individual action is perhaps the most important element of pandemic preparedness and response.
Education on pandemic preparedness for the population should begin before a pandemic, should be provided by all levels of government and the private sector, and should occur in the context of preventing the transmission of any infection, such as the annual influenza or the common cold. Responsibilities of the individual and families include:
• Taking precautions to prevent the spread of infection to others if an individual or a family member has symptoms of influenza.
• Being prepared to follow public health guidance that may include limitation of attendance at public gatherings and non- essential travel for several days or weeks.
• Keeping supplies of materials at home, as recommended by authorities, to support essential needs of the household for several days if necessary

Just to reiterate something that is in line with this that was posted in the first thread for this... is calling your insurance company and downloading their free apps to do face to face through app meeting with a doctor. I did it 3 weeks ago for an allergic response, and the cost for such was just $10!!! I had the doc online face to face on my cellphone, and 45 minutes later picked up the required steroids for my reaction.

Please you guys, check into setting this up with your insurance companies as I had no idea this existed until a month ago, but almost all insurance companies have.

MOO

ETA O/T. sorry Lori Vallow that you are missing out on the preppers stage of this and on a $5 million bond in Hawiaii
 
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Classic. This “self-quarantine” is not working out folks. We must dig deep and read carefully, as another article claimed this new case had self -quarantined since arriving. Nope, looks like they spent some time out and about for awhile....

2 new cases of coronavirus confirmed in Northern California, bringing US total to 34
That person has remained self-quarantined after displaying “mild symptoms,” according to officials.
 
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