Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Emergency #5

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  • #901
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South Korea has tested 16,000
UK has tested ~6,000
***US has disclosed tests on 500 people.***


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Scott Gottlieb, MD
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To date, South Korea has tested more than 16,000 of its residents for #Coronavirus and the country continues to identify new cases. This graph plots their cumulative testing volume over time and the number of coronavirus cases that they’ve identified, which are now accelerating.



Damn, just look at the log increase in the last two days.. scary
 
  • #902
Classic. This “self-quarantine” is not working out folks. We must dig deep and read carefully, as another article claimed this new case had self -quarantined since arriving. Nope, looks like they spent some time out and about for awhile....

2 new cases of coronavirus confirmed in Northern California, bringing US total to 34
That person has remained self-quarantined after displaying “mild symptoms,” according to officials.
Agreed.....anyone they saw prior......well you know the drill....the drill that's not working.....
 
  • #903
Just to reiterate something that is in line with this that was posted in the first thread for this... is calling your insurance company and downloading their free apps to do face to face through app meeting with a doctor. I did it 3 weeks ago for an allergic response, and the cost for such was just $10!!! I had the doc online face to face on my cellphone, and 45 minutes later picked up the required steroids for my reaction.

Please you guys, check into setting this up with your insurance companies as I had no idea this existed until a month ago, but almost all insurance companies have.

MOO

ETA O/T. sorry Lori Vallow that you are missing out on the preppers stage of this and on a $5 million bond in Hawiaii
It works great.....there are several:

Doctors on call
Am well
Telidoc

To name a few. I was on the phone 20 minutes.
 
  • #904
I had to look to see if Sacramento is in Humboldt County, but no...

New Confirmed Coronavirus Case In Humboldt, Sacramento Counties

Humboldt County health officials have announced that they were treating their first confirmed case of coronavirus and a second person was being tested for the illness.

Meanwhile, Sacramento County Public Health officials also announced their first confirmed case.

“Currently, the individual is asymptomatic, but will remain home for mandatory isolation until cleared by Sacramento County Public Health,” the office said in a press release. “Sacramento County Public Health’s investigation determined that currently, the public’s risk of exposure is extremely low.”

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why low risk? Who is this person in Sacramento and how did they come in contact with the virus? Same question to Humboldt County.

Humboldt county case was discussed here yesterday with an update...

UPDATE, 5:37 p.m.: DHHS spokesperson Christine Messinger tells the Outpost that the Humboldt County person who has been diagnosed with the COVID-19 virus had traveled to mainland China.

(UPDATE) Humboldt County Resident Diagnosed With Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)
 
  • #905
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Yes, that is what many epidemiologists were saying in the beginning and even now. Let it go wild, and create herd immunity. But doing so, it's like standing by for all to approve that folks will die for the cause of humanity. Just like is now but different. There is NO GOOD ANSWER to this MOO. Both ways are knowing folks will "die for the cause" iykwim

Ummm. Perhaps I didn’t make my point very clearly.

Herd Immunity is invaluable in saving lives by preventing outbreaks that turn into pandemics.

For example, polio vaccinations can eradicate this disease through Herd Immunity. Likewise, measles, diphtheria vaccines can prevent deaths populations that become immune.

We all have natural types of herd immunity to many viruses, for example adenoviruses, where a level of immunity exists because these viruses continuously circulate in a population with a general level of immunity, and keeps them from becoming seriously debilitating.

With the Coronavirus group, however, their natural ability to mutate makes them continuously “Novel”, so one year a SARS version encounters a population without herd immunity, maybe the next year it’s MERS version, now it’s COVID-19. Until we can design better vaccines and actually get people to use them, we can’t rely on Herd Immunity as we can with many other pathogens.
 
  • #906
Just to reiterate something that is in line with this that was posted in the first thread for this... is calling your insurance company and downloading their free apps to do face to face through app meeting with a doctor. I did it 3 weeks ago for an allergic response, and the cost for such was just $10!!! I had the doc online face to face on my cellphone, and 45 minutes later picked up the required steroids for my reaction.

Please you guys, check into setting this up with your insurance companies as I had no idea this existed until a month ago, but almost all insurance companies have.

MOO

ETA O/T. sorry Lori Vallow that you are missing out on the preppers stage of this and on a $5 million bond in Hawiaii


Thanks for sharing that! Yep definitely something that everyone should have!

and BBM: lol! Well played
 
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  • #907
In Shandong Province, officials said 207 cases had emerged in a prison in the city of Jining, 450 miles east of Wuhan. The outbreak prompted the local authorities to dismiss the director and party secretary of the provincial justice department, which oversees the prisons there, along with seven other officials.

The cases there may have spread from a prison guard who developed a cough on Feb. 12 and tested positive for the virus the next day, according to a statement by the provincial government. A second guard was also found to have the virus that day, prompting the prison authorities to begin screening the entire prison population.

In all, 2,077 inmates and prison workers were tested in Shandong, with 200 prisoners and seven guards testing positive for the coronavirus. No deaths have been reported.

Coronavirus Live Updates: Fears of Global Spread as Cases Accelerate in Iran and South Korea

10% in less than 8 days positive. Reminds me of the Princess. An epidemiologists dream case report. Expect to see one soon in the literature?
 
  • #908
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Stunning and disturbing. #coronavirus compared to other virus outbreaks.

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  • #911
@dixiegirl1035, do you (or anyone) know the specific article to which Dr. T is referring around 25:00ish, which he wants people to reference when there is misinformation, which refutes that the virus was made in the lab? Tia.
 
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Wow, I feel like things are blowing up today. Makes sense I guess- it’s been now 2-3 weeks since the travel started shutting down in places.

OT a bit, and I may have an unpopular feeling here, but this news about the prisoners is really sad IMO. Because there are SO many of them now, it will not being contained, and I am certain they will get terrible care. We know how the “un-imprisoned” are being treated over there, one can only imagine how the prisoners are treated. They will essentially be left for dead. No effort at all will be made to help them IMO.

I’m all for justice, but with a virus like this, it’s sad IMO that so many will be left to suffer. And we don’t know what they are even imprisoned for (i.e. I doubt they all deserve the DP). MOO MOO.

Agree. Also, US vs China wherein US will have lawsuits against the prisons galore. But if it does get rampant, how is the prison system supposed to screen/prevent/contain/deal with even in a best case scenario to prevent? I cannot even fathom how. Can anyone?
 
  • #913
I was referring to the isolation units that are currently being used for confirmed cases here in the US.

Those units have been built specifically for that purpose and should be full proof as long as proper protocols are followed. But due to the fact that those units are very limited, we’ll have to find alternative measures.
As quickly as Hubei was overwhelmed, and given all of the knowns and unknowns about this virus, my point is that I don’t believe that caring for infected patients should take place in the same facility with non infected patients UNLESS the facility was built for that specific purpose. For the sake of containment, if we see a sudden outbreak of substantial size, we should consider turning an existing hospital into a quarantine treatment facility.
I know that’s not feasible with communities that have only one hospital, but there are several cities in the US that have multiple hospitals in close proximity.
If it blows up here like it has in China, then there will come a time that containment won’t be realistic. But until that time occurs, I think this would be the best route to go on an interim basis. It would allow for the best care for both infected and non infected patients and would drastically reduce the chance for cross contamination.
I hope that all makes sense...

Specialized isolation units would be the best case scenario, but realistically not feasible. If global containment fails (and it looks like we may be heading that way), then large scale containment/treatment centers may end up being a new “norm” in the near future. If it can’t be contained, then the next best option is to find creative ways to limit the impact as best we can.

I know the main topic of conversation in the media and on this thread has been in regards to containment, but I’m starting to wonder what our world is going to look like if the situation in Wuhan gets replicated on a global scale. Working remotely and self isolation won’t be long term options for the mass majority. IMOO, COVID-19 has the potential to completely change the world as we know it.

Let’s hope this virus either burns itself out in relatively short order, or that scientists can create an effective vaccine very quickly!

If not, then we may have to learn to accept it as a way of life as we do with the flu and the common cold. The only other option would be to promote social distancing. Think of the impact that would have.... schools, colleges, sporting events, restaurants, manufacturing facilities, all forms of public transportation, etc,...

Well, there are really all sorts of “cruise ships” we live in:

1. Large multi-unit apartment building

2. Hotels, motels, condos

3. Airplanes, train, subways, buses, any shared transit

4. Public arenas, theaters, coliseums, nightclubs, restaurants, bars

5. Amusement parks ( I’ll betcha Disney has a plan!) , attractions, entertainment venues

6. Schools and universities, dorms

7. Shops,

It goes on and on. We aren’t self-reliant isolated farmers and small communities
 
  • #914
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I’m not to the point that I’m panicked yet. Our US government will restrict travel even more with hot spots in the world if needed. I can see in the near future that air travel will decrease between us and the countries that have large numbers of infection. I also expect there will be a better understanding of this disease and better treatment and possibly a vaccine. We just need to be practicing good hygiene for now.

MOO
 
  • #916
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Stunning and disturbing. #coronavirus compared to other virus outbreaks.

0:39
47.5K views

m-FU43cc9Zz7BPjI

The GIF you posted doesn't work on this site. Here is the end for those that didn't click on link. Due to numbers, obviously an outdated link, but getting the idea.

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  • #917
@dixiegirl1035, do you (or anyone) know the specific article to which Dr. T is referring around 25:00ish, which he wants people to reference when there is misinformation, which refutes that the virus was made in the lab? Tia.

The WHO has also referenced such, and was posted in the threads a couple of times but don't have it handy, sorry. I haven't had time to review either of the videos I posted, I'll recheck later.
 
  • #918
I feel the exact same way MJ. I also know that many are in prison because of their political views. The more I learn about China. The more appreciation I have for where I am fortunate enough to live.

Wow, I feel like things are blowing up today. Makes sense I guess- it’s been now 2-3 weeks since the travel started shutting down in places.

OT a bit, and I may have an unpopular feeling here, but this news about the prisoners is really sad IMO. Because there are SO many of them now, it will not being contained, and I am certain they will get terrible care. We know how the “un-imprisoned” are being treated over there, one can only imagine how the prisoners are treated. They will essentially be left for dead. No effort at all will be made to help them IMO.

I’m all for justice, but with a virus like this, it’s sad IMO that so many will be left to suffer. And we don’t know what they are even imprisoned for (i.e. I doubt they all deserve the DP). MOO MOO.
 
  • #919
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3 - 5 days after infection most infectious time
At this point in time, natural peak time in Wuhan
(expect the number of cases in Wuhan to start going down)

Epidemic number is probably doubling every 7 days

He beleives, he fears, we are in the early stages of internation spread
and the development of a pandemic of covid-19
 
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The GIF you posted doesn't work on this site. Here is the end for those that didn't click on link. Due to numbers, obviously an outdated link, but getting the idea.

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Oh shoot thank you!

Yea, going to the direct link, it shows the transition, but not current
 
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