Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Emergency #5

[galiuro1]

Wow....division in the ranks.....a view of things to come..,
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Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice

In the wee hours of a rainy Monday, more than a dozen buses sat on the tarmac at Tokyo’s Haneda Airport. Inside, 328 weary Americans wearing surgical masks and gloves waited anxiously to fly home after weeks in quarantine aboard the Diamond Princess, the luxury liner where the novel coronavirus had exploded into a ship-wide epidemic.

But as the buses idled, U.S. officials wrestled with troubling news. New test results showed that 14 passengers were infected with the virus. The U.S. State Department had promised that no one with the infection would be allowed to board the planes.

A decision had to be made. Let them all fly? Or leave them behind in Japanese hospitals?

In Washington, where it was still Sunday afternoon, a fierce debate broke out: The State Department and a top Trump administration health official wanted to forge ahead. The infected passengers had no symptoms and could be segregated on the plane in a plastic-lined enclosure. But officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention disagreed, contending they could still spread the virus. The CDC believed the 14 should not be flown back with uninfected passengers.

“It was like the worst nightmare,” said a senior U.S. official involved in the decision, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations. “Quite frankly, the alternative could have been pulling grandma out in the pouring rain, and that would have been bad, too.”

The State Department won the argument. But unhappy CDC officials demanded to be left out of the news release that explained that infected people were being flown back to the United States — a move that would nearly double the number of known coronavirus cases in this country.

The State Department made the call. The 14 people were already in the evacuation pipeline and protocol dictated they be brought home, said William Walters, director of operational medicine for the State Department.

As the State Department drafted its news release, CDC’s top officials insisted that any mention of the agency be removed.

“CDC did weigh in on this and explicitly recommended against it,” Schuchat wrote on behalf of the officials, according to an HHS official who saw the email and shared the language. “We should not be mentioned as having been consulted as it begs the question of what was our advice.”

Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice

So optics won out over the professionals...way to go...

 

[Henry2326]

There doesn't seem to be a break in this thing.....
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BREAKING: China's Shandong province reports coronavirus outbreak at a prison with 207 confirmed cases Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
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The head of the Shandong Province Justice Department has been removed from office
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[Wicked Strong]

There doesn't seem to be a break in this thing.....
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BREAKING: China's Shandong province reports coronavirus outbreak at a prison with 207 confirmed cases Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
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The head of the Shandong Province Justice Department has been removed from office
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Wow, a prison with uncontrolled virus! I think this has just exploded there. I can't even imagine the conditions of the prisons over in China, but I doubt they have adequate care for the prisoners.

MOO

 

[Henry2326]

Seoul announces new measures: major rallies are banned, more than 3,000 social welfare facilities are closed, and so are branches of the church at the center of the Daegu outbreak - Yonhap

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[Auntie Cipation]

Re the Humboldt County, CA case:

Ah, a different news source says the person with COVID-19 there did indeed visit mainland China.

(UPDATE) BREAKING: Humboldt County Resident Diagnosed With Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)

I feel oddly relieved at this news, though now a month needs to go by to see if this person or their partner passed it to anyone else in the region...

 

[Henry2326]

The provincial health officer, Dr. Bonnie Henry, says a woman in her 30s has been diagnosed with COVID-19 after returning this week from Iran. The woman lives in the Fraser Health region.

“Our continued view is that the risk to B.C. is low, we are acting with vigilance,” she said.

Henry said staff were surprised by a new case linked to Iran, which only recently reported it had five cases of COVID-19 and two deaths.

“That triggered interest from people around the world,” Henry said. “I expect there will be an investigation to determine where the exposure occurred.”

B.C. woman diagnosed with COVID-19 after returning from Iran

 

[mickey2942]

Re the Humboldt County, CA case:

Ah, a different news source says the person with COVID-19 there did indeed visit mainland China.

(UPDATE) BREAKING: Humboldt County Resident Diagnosed With Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)

I feel oddly relieved at this news, though now a month needs to go by to see if this person or their partner passed it to anyone else in the region...

I think that within two months, we will have quite a few cases of Coronavirus here in the United States, and probably some deaths.

 

[Henry2326]

The number of people being tested for coronavirus in South Korea has risen to 2,707, up from 1,860 last night.

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[Henry2326]

I think that within two months, we will have quite a few cases of Coronavirus here in the United States, and probably some deaths.

Yup....I hoped that we would get a break for the summer, but I don't think we are going to get that luxury....

Sidenote: the first week of January, China reported 50 cases of so. A month and half later they are struggling. I'm estimating that mid March, surrounding countries will be at the same place as now. Estimating approx 2 month ramp up. IMO

 

[Wicked Strong]

My guess is the Japanese Minister of Health just simply didn't know what to do with the cruise passengers anymore. He might have thought it they test negative before they get off, then there's a greater chance they won't infect the cities of Japan. It was reported that about 50% of the remaining passengers were Japanese citizens. And I also imagine he didn't know how to quarantine over 1000 passengers another 14 days. It would have been a cost to house them and feed them and I don't know enough about facilities in Japan. It's not like they could or should quarantine that many people together in one large space. And to leave them on the ship, so that 2 by 2 they get sick and overwhelm the hospitals in Japan was simply not a great option either.

MOO

 

[jjenny]

My guess is the Japanese Minister of Health just simply didn't know what to do with the cruise passengers anymore. He might have thought it they test negative before they get off, then there's a greater chance they won't infect the cities of Japan. It was reported that about 50% of the remaining passengers were Japanese citizens. And I also imagine he didn't know how to quarantine over 1000 passengers another 14 days. It would have been a cost to house them and feed them and I don't know enough about facilities in Japan. It's not like they could or should quarantine that many people together in one large space. And to leave them on the ship, so that 2 by 2 they get sick and overwhelm the hospitals in Japan was simply not a great option either.

MOO

I don't know what they thought, but they likely let infected people into general population. If US and Australia found new cases already, chances are there are infected people from that ship who are running around free in Japan.

 

[KALI]

I find it preposterous that the owners of the contaminated ship, the Diamond Princess are advertising and selling bookings for a holiday upon her in April.
Of course this is about money.
I sincerely hope that no one books this ship for at least 6 months. Then after rigorous verified cleaning and disinfecting.
Personally, even then, I wouldn't trust them.
Even a free cruise.
I'm speaking about the owners of this vessel.
Not the crew.
How brain dead can you be to try to sell a Petri dish of disease?
MONEY, INVESTORS. Beat, all the little people.
My answer. I am 100% sure that the owners of the Diamond Princess will be sued.
Their new advertisement, for an April cruise, will hurt them big.
As it should. IMO

 

[Henry2326]

Another way to say quarantine?!?.....wonder how many people have come into the US from South Korea in the past couple of weeks?!?
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South Korea declares Daegu 'special management zone' after nation's first COVID-19 death as infections surge

SEOUL – South Korea has declared the southeast city of Daegu and the surrounding region as a “special management zone” following an explosion in infections of the new coronavirus that city officials say threaten to overwhelm the region’s health system.

Prime Minister Chung Se-kyun on Friday said the national government will concentrate its support to the region to ease a shortage in sickbeds, medical personnel and equipment.

The surge of infections in the Daegu area and several cases in the capital Seoul, where infection routes weren’t immediately traceable, forced government officials to acknowledge for the first time on Thursday that the virus has begun to circulate in the local population.

South Korea declares Daegu 'special management zone' after nation's first COVID-19 death as infections surge | The Japan Times

 

[mickey2942]

Honestly, after hearing that people were in lockdown on a cruise ship with infected folks...and the infection spread like wildfire. Who would ever even want to go on a cruise again?! No thanks.

Umm, when I was 17, I used to be a maid in a hotel...don't count on your room passing any Joint Commission Hospital Accreditation standards for being completely disinfected.

 

[Wicked Strong]

I find it preposterous that the owners of the contaminated ship, the Diamond Princess are advertising and selling bookings for a holiday upon her in April.
Of course this is about money.
I sincerely hope that no one books this ship for at least 6 months. Then after rigorous verified cleaning and disinfecting.
Personally, even then, I wouldn't trust them.
Even a free cruise.
I'm speaking about the owners of this vessel.
Not the crew.
How brain dead can you be to try to sell a Petri dish of disease?
MONEY, INVESTORS. Beat, all the little people.
My answer. I am 100% sure that the owners of the Diamond Princess will be sued.
Their new advertisement, for an April cruise, will hurt them big.
As it should. IMO

I agree I wouldn't take a cruise right now, and especially on that ship, but the infectious doctor from Japan that went on the ship and wrote how bad they were about contamination said the staff were not wearing masks, sitting down at long tables to eat. They are responsible for the passengers safety and IMO weren't taking adequate precautions either. Apparently they were going in and out of the green zone and red zone without any regard to taking care.

MOO

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Well, well. I had expressed here an opinion as I assumed they were in the box? Guess not.

Good lord. Our state department are idiots.

 

[Henry2326]

NEW: Japan reports 3 new cases of coronavirus in Hokkaido Prefecture, including 2 children Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
Press conference with more details later today.

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[jjenny]

If they wanted to fly 14 already infected people back into US, they should have gotten them a separate plane. I don't know how many of the people brought into US from that ship are going to end up infected. Sounds like some were already infected but not yet tested positive when they got off the ship. Then there will be people exposed to known infected and unknown infected. Yikes.
And Japan likely has infected people form the ship running around free.

 

[KALI]

Pets.
If someone barged into my house, demanding that I give them my little abused 6 pound dog, and my 12 year old left in a cage for a year, most loving, kind, German Shepherd, then proceed to viciously beat these innocents to death.
I would be killed, or, I would be a babbling idiot.
I would rather die, then live in a world like that.
As Americans. This in unfathomable.
God bless America, and England, and Canada and all countries that acknowledge and appreciate that we share this planet.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I think that within two months, we will have quite a few cases of Coronavirus here in the United States, and probably some deaths.

Can you imagine how popular this thread is gonna be at that time here at WS. The learning curve has been so great just in the last week here.

The number of people being tested for coronavirus in South Korea has risen to 2,707, up from 1,860 last night.

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Well, we are getting closer and closer to WHO calling it a pandemic. Not if, but when. MOO

I don't know what they thought, but they likely let infected people into general population. If US and Australia found new cases already, chances are there are infected people from that ship who are running around free in Japan.

Odds of the Olympics not happening have gone up drastically in the last week MOO. We'll have to see.

O/T for this thread, just saw a youtube subscription feed that Lori Vallow was arrested..... off to check out that info and thread here at WS!