Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #7

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CT scans may help doctors diagnose coronavirus patients four DAYS faster than the CDC's test by revealing lung damage

CT scans may be the fastest way to diagnose coronavirus, study suggests | Daily Mail Online

Very interesting and thanks for sharing as I have wanted to see what the "ground glass" lesions we had heard about before looked like.

From the link above, this part is what I found to be a good summary. Toward the bottom of what I cut out, they can use the CT scan technique pretty reliably when done 3-5 days after onset of symptoms:

"Thirty-six patients received scans zero to two days after reporting symptoms and more than half showed no evidence of lung disease.

The team says this is important because it suggests that CT scans cannot reliably detect coronavirus in its very earliest stages.

CDC's test can identify patients even before patients become symptomatic, although some may still have the virus if they first test negative. Its results, however, may take days to get back from the agency's labs.

But 33 patients who received scans three to five days after symptoms developed had patterns of 'ground glass opacities,' or haziness in the lungs."

CT scans may be the fastest way to diagnose coronavirus, study suggests | Daily Mail Online
 
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First case in the Netherlands is in Tilburg, a city near the border with Belgium. The patient recently returned from Italy.

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Damn. My mom hasn’t been home in a decade and has booked a trip for May. But if it spreads there she might have to cancel.
 
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New US coronavirus case may be 1st from unknown origin

Gov. Gavin Newsom declined comment when asked by reporters to name the community in Solano County the woman was from but urged people to take precautions while emphasizing that the risks to public health were low. He said there was no need to declare a public health emergency...

I thought it was pretty disgusting how the reporters were shouting questions at him about disclosing who she was, where she lived, was her family quarantined, what people in the hospital were quarantined..... all sorts of information that would end up instantly harassing the patient, the family, the healthcare providers.

I'm no champion of Newsom, but he did a good job with that PC
 
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It will not work. States will independently report statistics even if the federal government stops the CDC from doing so. And then there is social media: do they truly think that a doctor is going to refuse to tell someone "Well, I think your grandmother has COVID-19, but the CDC won't allow us to test to confirm it."

I HIGHLY doubt that it would ever get to this point, but I’m sure the entire communications networks could be taken down as an extreme measure. Shut down power, and communications slow to a trickle. I’m sure anyone that’s experienced a lengthy power outage can attest to that.

I’m honestly not trying to be argumentative over the subject, but I think people tend to forget what measures can be taken / or could happen without malice that would totally disrupt our modern way of living.

If the power grid were to go down, we wouldn’t know what caused it until we were told...

This will my only post on the subject as I know it’s a topic that can open Pandora’s Box as a discussion topic, but I disagree that various levels of control can’t be implemented.

VERY UNLIKELY, but not impossible.

Yesterday, I really don’t think any of us on here expected to see government information being funneled through one individual, but....

All I know is that without power and communication, we’d all be sitting in the dark! (pun intended)
 
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The PD may find this is tooo good of a good thing, judging from the numbers of meth arrests in my little community.
 
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Early on, I said I worried, as an American, that money/the economy may be prioritized over our lives. It was Pooh-poohed at the time.

This is not a time I wish to be right.
 
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I thought it was pretty disgusting how the reporters were shouting questions at him about disclosing who she was, where she lived, was her family quarantined, what people in the hospital were quarantined..... all sorts of information that would end up instantly harassing the patient, the family, the healthcare providers.

I'm no champion of Newsom, but he did a good job with that PC
It's like winning the wrong lottery. Expectancy of privacy seems to be lost on the media and often the general public.

Some of those answers are important however, in the interest of public safety. JMO
 
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Just curious, with everything that we currently know, what are everyone’s biggest fears/concerns?
I think mine are the possibility of being exposed to the virus (I have a somewhat weak immune system) and community ignorance to heed precautions when asked. With the info from the CDC being funneled thru the administration, I’m further concerned that we, the public won’t even know what is the truth and how to properly avoid risks. How do we even know how many positive cases and quarantined “possibles” are in our specific area(s)? Rural areas and small towns won’t have a CNN report to check for cases in their communities. Who’s informing them? I truly hope Pence has a plan in effect to inform and educate not just cypher detrimental info. MOOOOO
 
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You need evaporated milk, not condensed milk

Sweetened condensed milk can be frozen into something that resembles ice cream. Very sweet
I love evaporated milk. I often use it in tea, and yes in my pumpkin pie (grandmother's recipe handed down). Good thing about it is, since it's canned, it will last much longer. Once opened though, still needs refrigeration.
 
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My biggest concern is I have elderly parents.My Dad is 78 and my mum is 71. I am dreading me getting it but I’m only 32 so fingers crossed I would be fine but my parents are a real concern and we live in London so millions of people and it will spread like wildfire.
 
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Number of tests and positivity rate for Covid-19 as of Feb. 26
  • UK: 7,132 concluded tests, of which 13 positive (0.2% positivity rate).
  • Italy: 9,462 tests, of which 470 positive (5.0% positivity rate), awaiting results: unknown.
  • France: 762 tests, of which 17 positive (2.2% positivity rate), 179 awaiting results.
  • Austria: 321 tests, of which 2 positive (0.6% positivity rate), awaiting results: unknown.
  • United States: 445 concluded tests, of which 14 positive (3.1% positivity rate).
Italy
Italy announced on Feb. 26 that it would relax its testing criteria to the point that contacts linked to confirmed cases or recent travelers to outbreak areas would not be tested anymore, unless they show symptoms.

South Korea and other countries
Other countries continue to trace and test all contacts. As an example of a massive testing effort, South Korea health authorities on Feb. 27 have started testing more than 210,000 members of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus in Daegu.

United States
The US CDC initially declined to test the patient who on Feb. 26 become the latest confirmed case in the US, and the first with an unknown origin of infection (raising the concern that there are more cases circulating among the general public that have not been identified).

Just 12 of more than 100 public health labs in the U.S. are currently able to test for COVID-19 because of a problem with the test developed by CDC. The agency can now screen only 350-500 samples per day. As of Feb. 26, CDC had performed a total of 445 tests. For comparison, the UK, with a population five times smaller than the US, had conducted over 7,000 tests.

China
China tested 320,000 people in Guangdong (population of 113 million people) over a three-week period.



We will be adding other countries and more details in the coming days.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/covid-19-testing/
 
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Just curious, with everything that we currently know, what are everyone’s biggest fears/concerns?
I think mine are the possibility of being exposed to the virus (I have a somewhat weak immune system) and community ignorance to heed precautions when asked. With the info from the CDC being funneled thru the administration, I’m further concerned that we, the public won’t even know what is the truth and how to properly avoid risks. How do we even know how many positive cases and quarantined “possibles” are in our specific area(s)? Rural areas and small towns won’t have a CNN report to check for cases in their communities. Who’s informing them? I truly hope Pence has a plan in effect to inform and educate not just cypher detrimental info. MOOOOO

Good questions.

For me personally, i hate being sick and this "thing" concerns me because even though some dont get symptoms as bad as others, with my bad luck, I would be one of the ones to get really bad symptoms, and I fear being knocked out of commission from this.

Ive seen too many pictures of really sick individuals that have this Virus and it looks really bad in some patients.

I am pretty certain that nobody likes getting ill.

I keep hoping it will fizzle out. If we are to take China's figures at face value, there is some hope that things can slow down after the initial wave of increases after a full blown breakout. Lets just hope their numbers really were going down in that country like they told everyone.
 
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I HIGHLY doubt that it would ever get to this point, but I’m sure the entire communications networks could be taken down as an extreme measure. Shut down power, and communications slow to a trickle. I’m sure anyone that’s experienced a lengthy power outage can attest to that.

I’m not even sure the power would have to be shut down to stop social media communication. I’m having trouble getting twitter feeds to load today, and I’m not going to lie, it occurred to me that it would be very easy to just shut it (the internet) down as an “emergency” measure. I certainly hope that won’t ever happen, but we aren’t living in normal times. IMO JMO MOO
 
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and on this note see how very stupid people can be ( because I'm sure they will get a few calls ) this stupidity is what I'm worried about in general, lately 2% seems kinda high :)
 
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Good questions.


I keep hoping it will fizzle out. If we are to take China's figures at face value, there is some hope that things can slow down after the initial wave of increases after a full blown breakout. Lets just hope their numbers really were going down in that country like they told everyone.
I hate being a disaster Debbie.....but......what is the likely that we can shut down massive cities like the Chinese did? If the answer is yes, then we can expect comparable results.....if the answer is no then we can expect massive losses......
 
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OKLAHOMA CITY —

Two more people are being tested for possible coronavirus in Oklahoma, officials with the Oklahoma State Department of Health confirmed with KOCO 5 Thursday.

According to the health department, the two people are showing symptoms of the COVID-19 (coronavirus) and had recently traveled to countries affected by the virus. They are currently awaiting test results from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The two people under investigation are in isolation, according to the health department.

Two more people being tested for possible coronavirus in Oklahoma, health officials say
Each state is comparable to a tiny country, waiting its turn for a report of potential cases. I'm hoping we will know when it is diagnosed close to where we live.
 
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I hate being a disaster Debbie.....but......what is the likely that we can shut down massive cities like the Chinese did? If the answer is yes, then we can expect comparable results.....if the answer is no then we can expect massive losses......



I don’t think they will be able to shut down city’s like China did as it’s completely different culture. Some People in the west are not going to tolerate being locked up and there certainly isn’t enough police to detain people in their homes.


IMO
 
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