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I’m trying to explain to my dog that we need to ration the dog treats. He’s not understanding.

I love your posts @margarita25! As always, thanks for bringing humor to all the difficult topics! :)
 
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Happy Sunday morning to all. It is gently raining here in West Texas. Mrs.22, our grandson, and the dogs are all happily snoring, and the hot coffee tastes great..........The bills are all paid, and we have food and toilet paper for today..... " We got the World by the tail with a downward pull.".....Yall hang in there and somebody please make some breakfast burritos ?.........moo
 
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That and I fear what might be happening in NK

Oh God. I’ve thought about that and haven’t tried to since. I mean they don’t have people with disabilities there. Except maybe some blindness. They don’t allow them to live. You don’t see people in wheelchairs at all.

Sorry to keep citing documentaries but another great one was TheLittle Red Book about this Swedish comedy team going there pretending to be communists. One of the members was a guy adopted from South Korea and he has CP.

They have minders who speak whatever language you speak and Big Brother microphones in the hotel so they can hear what people are saying. But the guy with CP could say whatever he wanted because his speech made it impossible for the translators to interpret his words. So there was this narration the whole time by this young guy saying what everyone else was thinking but couldn’t say, during the whole trip.

But at what point he becomes overwhelmed and started yelling and sobbing in the hall. Later his minders asked his buddies what he was upset about and they assured the minders that he was overwhelmed to be “home” and welcomed by his motherland.

In reality he was cussing and despairing by keeping up the act of being comfortable and happy in a nation that would’ve killed him. He was horrified to see not one person with disabilities during the entire trip.

I believe they are murdering anyone with symptoms immediately.
 
  • #644
My pharmacy is shut down to direct access, but our drive thru will remain open.
 
  • #645
I figured...sorry if it was dumb question lol...I just wanted to say I’m learning all about this conferencing stuff myself so was really wanting to say, for those who have to learn to be more “remote”, perhaps we can learn more about this stuff together. :)

So, for anyone who is doing “remote” stuff, I look forward to hearing what type of software, etc. you guys are using.

We can “adapt” together.

Because you know, that’s exactly what we needed as a society, more devices and less human interaction. :rolleyes:

I’m laughing at myself thinking about how I used to complain and complain about kids being on their devices too much.

This is so Darwinian as I literally see the species mutating and adapting around me.

It’s not a dumb question.

I set up my little mother’s computer with a webcam so she can do her school via Zoom (remotely).

I was assessing what I can continue to do remotely. But like my ex said today, “You’re not living in a hut. You’re not in a refugee camp on the border at the mercy of this virus, you’re not on the verge of starvation if you can’t work.”

So I’m trying to have perspective no matter what when it comes to the work situation.
 
  • #646
SAME. It's 4:11am here and I have to be up for work at 8. I am WIRED. My mom was diagnosed with cancer this week and the surgery to remove half of her lung is scheduled for next week. She is about to be 76 and I'm just... weirdly disassociating yet completely anxiety ridden. Hugs to you and your mom.


I wish I could sleep it’s 7:47am here and I haven’t slept at all. I’m worried sick and stressed out my mind about this nightmare and my Mum’s surgery.

Praying for both your Mothers to have successful surgeries and fast recoveries.

Everything is being cleaned more stringently than usual. Hopefully, the hospitals are following strict guidelines.

It's beautiful how much you both love your Mothers.
 
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Come on Marg. .....breathe deep......vape vape.......now breathe......aaahhhh....look at the beautiful side of nature.......those flowers.........seeds to water on the sunny windowsill.

Lol

Actually I’m at an oddly calm phase at this very moment.

It’s called emotionally spent.

I have moved into acceptance, somewhat. I go in and out of reality frankly. I’ve had a hard time for weeks trying to really grasp if this is really happening, you know Twilight Zone, Pink Floyd, Alice in Wonderland, Wizard of Oz, Pink Floyd, “trippin balls”, as you know from the videos I’ve posted...

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Which brings me to something I have been thinking about.

I know everybody is different and the variables and dynamics are infinite based on each person; however I’m wondering what this might be like for someone who hasn’t experienced the dread and shudders and history to date and just all of a sudden got smacked with the gravity of this situation.

I mean, yeah, I/we will go through phases, but I have to say I’ve already gone through the initial first phase of dizzy spells, nausea, tears, shock, etc...I’m sure there is more to come, but here’s why I’m thinking about this.

I had a dear friend who was killed in a car accident. Just the shock itself gutted me to my core. I know what “shock” can do.

So I guess I’m just thinking about the people who are JUST NOW realizing that this is really happening.

Again, I’m still in shock, don’t get me wrong, but I’ve had weeks to process this. And I think it’s an advantage because there is some sense of relief in being as prepared as you can be.


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ETA:
A big source of tension over the past few weeks was the thought of having to brave the crowds, being around sick people. So I take some peace in this ability to be in Day 7 of isolation.

7 more days to go as far as not worrying about that last Uber ride I took. Well, actually more like a month or more. Imo I’m not sold on “14 days”.

I’ve come to the point of acceptance that there are no more Uber Rides.

There is no more happy hour.

There is no more yoga class.

And that people I know and love will likely die.
I already have an idea of who these people might be.
 
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  • #648
On an utterly shallow and self-absorbed note, has anyone any thoughts on things like going to the hairdressers? Asking, as I have an appointment this week and as I currently look like one of those doggies with eyes covered by floof, I am considering wearing a mask and keeping the appointment. Or not. Hmm.

Yes! And I regret it. I went thinking it hadn’t spread too far and seeing no one but two workers in it but a third came when I was in the chair and coughed hard in my direction a few feet from me. I’ve been super worried ever since. That was Monday.

I’ve gone on Nextdoor and looked around today and people are offering services in house. Maybe if you ask on there you can find a (non-symptomatic) stylist who would be willing to wear a mask and come to your house. Or schedule appointments with no one else there.
 
  • #649
Oh God. I’ve thought about that and haven’t tried to since. I mean they don’t have people with disabilities there. Except maybe some blindness. They don’t allow them to live. You don’t see people in wheelchairs at all.

Sorry to keep citing documentaries but another great one was TheLittle Red Book about this Swedish comedy team going there pretending to be communists. One of the members was a guy adopted from South Korea and he has CP.

They have minders who speak whatever language you speak and Big Brother microphones in the hotel so they can hear what people are saying. But the guy with CP could say whatever he wanted because his speech made it impossible for the translators to interpret his words. So there was this narration the whole time by this young guy saying what everyone else was thinking but couldn’t say, during the whole trip.

But at what point he becomes overwhelmed and started yelling and sobbing in the hall. Later his minders asked his buddies what he was upset about and they assured the minders that he was overwhelmed to be “home” and welcomed by his motherland.

In reality he was cussing and despairing by keeping up the act of being comfortable and happy in a nation that would’ve killed him. He was horrified to see not one person with disabilities during the entire trip.

I believe they are murdering anyone with symptoms immediately.

!!!
I didn't even think about what might be happening in NK! Thanks for posting about that documentary - I will definitely check that out.
 
  • #650
There have been medical studies of actual confirmed patients in hospitals. So the numbers for hospitals include actual cases that can be compared to actual diagnosed flu cases that end up hospitalised. So there are at least figures for how deadly it is for the more serious cases that end up in hospital. And as they are the ones most likely to die, the ones most likely to need oxygen or a ventilator in order to give them a better chance of not dying, I think we shouldn't forget that figure and worry too much at the moment about whether or not that fatality rate is higher or lower than anything else. It's this that we're dealing with *now*.

Estimates for how many people in the general population get the disease and whether or not they're even aware they have it will come later.
Do you know the number of people who have been hospitalized with the flu and died so far this year vs how many who have been hospitalized with the corona virus and died so far this year?
 
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Lol

Actually I’m at an oddly calm phase at this very moment.

It’s called emotionally spent.

I have moved into acceptance, somewhat. I go in and out of reality frankly. I’ve had a hard time for weeks trying to really grasp if this is really happening, you know Twilight Zone, Pink Floyd, Alice in Wonderland, Wizard of Oz, Pink Floyd, “trippin balls”, as you know from The videos I’ve posted...

——

Which brings me to something I have been thinking about.

I know everybody is different and the variables and dynamics are infinite based on each person; however I’m wondering what this might be like for someone who hasn’t experienced the dread and shudders and history to date and just all of a sudden got smacked with the gravity of this situation.

I mean, yeah, I/we will go through phases, but I have to say I’ve already gone through the initial first phase of dizzy spells, nausea, tears, shock, etc...I’m sure there is more to come, but here’s why I’m thinking about this.

I had a dear friend who was killed in a car accident. Just the shock itself gutted me to my core. I know what “shock” can do.

So I guess I’m just thinking about the people who are JUST NOW realizing that this is really happening.

Again, I’m still in shock, don’t get me wrong, but I’ve had weeks to process this. And I think it’s an advantage because there is some sense of relief in being as prepared as you can be.

That’s an insightful thought.

I’m also suddenly experiencing some weird calm (or at least a big reduction in nerves) but I’ve had some time like you as well.
 
  • #652
Yes! And I regret it. I went thinking it hadn’t spread too far and seeing no one but two workers in it but a third came when I was in the chair and coughed hard in my direction a few feet from me. I’ve been super worried ever since. That was Monday.

I’ve gone on Nextdoor and looked around today and people are offering services in house. Maybe if you ask on there you can find a (non-symptomatic) stylist who would be willing to wear a mask and come to your house. Or schedule appointments with no one else there.

Thank you, @gitana1 I think I’ll cancel and will rock the shaggy dog look for a while.

Meanwhile, this business of self-isolating the elderly for four months is really worrying me. I think of my neighbour, in her 80s, active and out with her dog three times a day. I think of all my uncles and aunties, all of whom are in that age range. Most of all, I think of my dear Dad and how he’ll cope.
I want to go back to the days I had nothing to worry about but what our leaders were tweeting about.
 
  • #653
That’s an insightful thought.

I’m also suddenly experiencing some weird calm (or at least a big reduction in nerves) but I’ve had some time like you as well.

Yeah it changes minute to minute my friend.

I should’ve knocked on wood on that earlier post because I’m suddenly feeling anxious again lol.

And I should’ve taken you up on that offer to show me around LA when I had the chance...

I hope we can all have a margarita soon. I don’t know when. Maybe next year. I don’t know. :(

Which reminds me, maybe @otto drank all his vodka and is passed out. :D
 
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Do you know the number of people who have been hospitalized with the flu and died so far this year vs how many who have been hospitalized with the corona virus and died so far this year?

This season:

370,000 – 670,000
flu hospitalizations

22,000 – 55,000

flu deaths

In the US only (during the flu season to date).


Preliminary In-Season 2019-2020 Flu Burden Estimates
 
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Matt Hancock confirms the elderly WILL soon be told to stay at home for four months to survive coronavirus as the Health Secretary admits the NHS does not have enough ventilators and blasts 'irresponsible' panic-buyers

Matt Hancock today confirmed the government will tell the elderly to stay at home for up to four months as he admitted the NHS does not currently have enough ventilators for the fight against coronavirus.

Coronavirus: Matt Hancock confirms the elderly WILL be told to stay home for four months | Daily Mail Online
 
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Yeah it changes minute to minute my friend.

I should’ve knocked on wood on that earlier post because I’m suddenly feeling anxious again lol.

And I should’ve taken you up on that offer to show me around LA when I had the chance...

I hope we can all have a margarita soon. I don’t know when. Maybe next year. I don’t know. :(

Which reminds me, maybe @otto drank all his vodka and is passed out. :D

Good for Otto!

Did I mention that my ex’s hoarder grandmother also inexplicably has hoarded tons of hard alcohol along with her wall of toilet paper?
 
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Well all of the following is JMO, and some first hand observations:

I think it is extremely selfish of people to hoard supplies. Not everyone can run off to the store to buy things, and some people can’t afford to buy more than what their immediate needs are. People live paycheck to paycheck. I’m in Hawaii were that silliness has also been going on, luckily we have plenty of fresh groceries still (Good luck on the TP though) IMO SOOOOOO STUPID to hoard that... I have refused to go and buy more than my normal amount of anything. If I were to get sick I’m sure I could find a friend or neighbor or a family member who put some groceries on my front step.

Here in Hawaii, If for some reason our containers and shipping are disrupted, we’ll be screwed. We are the most isolated island group on the planet, The furthest from a body of land. We rely on ALMOST everything to be shipped in.

We are also very reliant on the tourist industry, and as such with that getting disrupted a lot of people will struggle. However, this morning Hawaii had two cases of CV, tonight we have six. Of those cases, only one is a resident of our state . (He had returned from a trip to Seattle). That doesn’t count the two people who visited here and went home where they were then tested, and their cases were included in their states numbers. but they spent time here in Hawaii, Some for as long as 10 to 16 days.

Many, many of the cases worldwide are the result of travel, international and domestic. All these drastic measures are being taken to cancel sports, arts, (in Hawaii our county parks are closed) .... Our kids went on school break today... No school, no parks, no library’s. Really?

Instead of disrupting everybody’s lives, wouldn’t it make more sense to stop all non-essential travel? Gee, sorry people, you may have a vacation planned and want to go, but isn’t that better than no one being able to leave their house? Is that more important Than kids not even be being able to go play in a park?

In the case of Hawaii, we are so isolated that if all of this non-essential travel had been stopped, we would not have these cases. And our mayor won’t even tell us where these tourists stayed while they were here? One couple went to urgent care clinics two times, wouldn’t you like to know if you might’ve gone to the clinic at that time as well? And heaven forbid if they went to a luau where there are hundreds of people!
Sorry this is turned into a bit of a rant, but I am hoping that if people could just stop for a moment and think how their actions are impacting others, whether it’s buying the last five packages of toilet paper rolls or hoarding all the canned goods in the store, to going out when they feel sick. Maybe if we all thought about “what if my mom/daughter/cousin needed groceries and there were none available because of my selfishness” then this craziness would stop.
Thanks

JMO From a fed up person that refuses to play into the panic and hysteria and the “me only” mentality
 
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