Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #33

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No, she said it’s the limited PPE supplies that get used up for each test, not limited tests. Or did I misunderstand you? They want to hold onto their PPEs to use for those in the hospital.
Oh, thanks for the clarification, @Lilibet . xoxoxo
 
  • #823
Gov Cuomo called on FDA to do seriolology (so) testing. Fingers crossed.
As far as science goes, I get it. But is it especially useful or a good use of resources to get that hindsight now? Genuinely wondering.
 
  • #824
This info may have been posted today

Top U.S. health officials are "looking very closely" at reports that a much higher percentage of younger Americans than expected need hospitalization as a result of contracting the coronavirus, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said Sunday.

Fauci was responding to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which, after studying more than 4,000 cases in the U.S., showed that about 40 percent of those who were hospitalized for the virus as of March 16 were ages 20 to 54. Among the most critical cases, 12 percent of intensive care admissions were among those ages 20 to 44, while 36 percent were for those 45 to 64

Fauci: U.S. 'looking very closely' at severe coronavirus symptoms in younger Americans

We don’t know what is so different. Maybe the illness started in Kirkland, WA, and killed elderly first? So young people got the wrong message?

That it is not about them?

I have been to China. Elderly people smoked, but young people did not. Also, they don’t s smoke pot. So maybe, we have more smokers all in all, among young people here?

China is way more disciplined, and everyone with minimal symptoms wears a mask.

Otherwise, I don’t know. We have a decent amount of young Asian-Americans here, so I don’t think the difference is ethnic. Higher body mass, higher level of type II diabetes here? Could be.

Another thing is, the virus mutates. It mutated once in February, it could have mutated again
 
  • #825
does anyone know what women the president is talking about that was tortured
 
  • #826
This virus has to go. What I would give for some March Madness hoops, fine dining, drinking a few beers with friends playing bean bags, telling jokes, ugh. Now, I can't even visit family. I don't travel much, so that does not affect me much, but I know people who are social butterflies, and this things must be killing them (not literally).
 
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So...no bread, eggs, flour, milk, yeast, corn tortillas, masa to make tortillas. That’s in WM, Piggly, Super 1. Small parish half an hour from Gulf. Almost expecting to see a zombie next. Time to put in spring garden.

Had a massive surplus of satsumas, Meyers lemons, pink navels, blood oranges. No one would come pick them. In laws wanted delivery to Lafayette. Snowball-hell.

Should I consider a double barrel next?
I went to the nearest grocery store to my home this morning and the only thing I wanted that they were out of was eggs.

I was able to buy milk, water, paper towel and toilet paper. They did have strict limits on all of these items.

There was a fair amount of bread but I didn't need any. Meat counter had plenty of most everything.

There was not a lot of people shopping so social distancing was no problem for me. I have a feeling the hoarders are running out of room or money or a combination of both.

This is Ranch reporting from Sacramento California.
 
  • #828
Speaking of low PPE supplies, I had a conversation by text today with a nurse friend who works at our small local (Southern Oregon) hospital with 49 beds. I asked if they were preparing for coronavirus cases. She said that they are an “infection hospital” for our region. They are prepared for Ebola and are prepping for coronavirus, but like everyone else, they are low on supplies. I asked what people can do to help and she answered (quoting):

“Stay home so they don’t get sick. That really is the best way. And don’t get tested... unless you are in real distress. We are well past containing it. Now we just need to ride it out. Unnecessary testing wastes supplies.”

So there you have it...at least in our area, but I suspect in most of the U.S.

I think that one has to pay attention to low supplies and ask why did we go there lengthy route of making own tests (I think I know the answer).

But why I think testing is not great? If you end up in the hospital with high fever, pneumonia and lung opacities, trust me, they know! But even drive-through clinics might expose you to other people having the virus.
 
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We have a lot of senior citizens in the U.S. who have outside help because they can’t do things like housework, laundry and shopping for themselves. Or they need home health workers. A friend of mine has a helper for tasks all day once a week who has not taken coronavirus seriously until this week. I know my friend won’t insist on extra precautions because she doesn’t want to lose her. This lady also works for others, so she could potentially be spreading coronavirus to vulnerable people. There is nothing I can do about this, but I think it’s a concern for all seniors who get help. But what would happen if the helpers are pulled off the job? There are so many messy pieces when dealing with coronavirus. Ugh!
 
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And my opinion is not
Your opinion is your opinion, I have read about the Spanish flu way before the COVID. And about why so many viral diseases come from China (again, it is not against China, rather, about “social distancing” between the people and the wild animals)
 
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I went to the nearest grocery store to my home this morning and the only thing I wanted that they were out of was eggs.

I was able to buy milk, water, paper towel and toilet paper. They did have strict limits on all of these items.

There was a fair amount of bread but I didn't need any. Meat counter had plenty of most everything.

There was not a lot of people shopping so social distancing was no problem for me. I have a feeling the hoarders are running out of room or money or a combination of both.

This is Ranch reporting from Sacramento California.
Thanks for this encouraging post. I believe it won't be long before the store shelves will be better stocked. I was pleased to be able to buy eggs a few days ago.
 
  • #832
Actually, I think we do need to monitor and keep track of our top tier politicians right now. In this time of severe crisis, we need Congress and the White House to carry out very important policies to help safeguard our nation's very survival.

If our top politicians began dropping like flies, it could end in a total disaster, even a military coup or something like that. I may not have explained it well, but my point is, we need to keep our Democratic Government strong and healthy right now, because our nation's future depends upon it. JMO

I absolutely agree, but I also believe that all Americans should be entitled to and receive the same tests and/or treatment as our government officials. If you or I, or our family members were feeling unwell, I would want you, your family members, my DH and I, and our extended families to be given the same opportunities to be tested and/or treated if and when the need arises. I've "known" you here on Websleuths for a long time, and I hope and pray that you and your loved ones are and stay well.
 
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The Conservation Corps, today, is a place where they send juveniles getting out of juvenile hall and youth prisons. At least in California. But it is a great program for youth and could be expanded. They are required to be in school either to get their GED or to get college units. They get almost none of the practical training that characterized the corps back in the good old days, but they get way more than the typical college student.

Thing is, though, they have super strict rules on internet use (and no computers to speak of - our college has tried and tried to accommodate them). Makes it hard for those kids to keep up with what's going on (or a college class)
 
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OK, now that we are advancing worldwide recession, maybe we could use own people who are going to lose jobs?

Yes, just heard Honeywell is going to convert a factory in RI to make mask.

N95 Masks and the Coronavirus: More Production Underway

....Honeywell is quickly ramping up production and making millions of the N95 masks in the United States.

We are expanding manufacturing operations in a factory in Smithfield, Rhode Island, which also produces UVEX safety glasses.

Honeywell expects the new mask production line in Smithfield will create at least 500 jobs. Recruiting, hiring and training manufacturing workers will begin immediately.
 
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No. Don't understand his words.
Also seemed confused about signing Veteran's Choice (prior administration). I wouldn't be surprised if all of them are just plain exhausted at this point. Hope that Dr. Fauci is doing okay.
 
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Your opinion is your opinion, I have read about the Spanish flu way before the COVID. And about why so many viral diseases come from China (again, it is not against China, rather, about “social distancing” between the people and the wild animals)
I agree with the wet markets but do some deeper investigating on this particular virus. Frank Plummer was a great scientist that had been working with this virus.
 
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I hadn't realized it until now, but the futures hit the "limit down" halt again this morning in the US market.


U.S. Stock Futures
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S&P -114.50 / -5.00%
Level 2,174.00

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Nasdaq -340.25 / -4.88%
Level 6,628.75


Data as of 6:46pm ET
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Dow -954.00 / -5.01%
Level 18,086.00
 
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This virus has to go. What I would give for some March Madness hoops, fine dining, drinking a few beers with friends playing bean bags, telling jokes, ugh. Now, I can't even visit family. I don't travel much, so that does not affect me much, but I know people who are social butterflies, and this things must be killing them (not literally).

There will be a lot of people with heightened mental health crises as a result of this virus; anxiety, stress, fear, depression and loneliness can all be killers. Suicide numbers will rise due to those things, and also the prospect or reality of losing loved ones, jobs, businesses and homes.
 
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