Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #43

[tresir2012]

I had a dream last night that we went grocery shopping. It turned into a nightmare with me not being able to find bags of spinach and people coughing and I was convinced we caught the virus.

I’m going to come out of this even nuttier than before.

Well I don't need to go again for another 10 days now and it really was not too bad.

 

[gregjrichards]

New York state coronavirus deaths rise by 562 - the highest increase in 24 hours - bringing the total to 2935 as cases surpass 100,000

The coronavirus death toll in the state of New York rose by 562 between Thursday and Friday to 2935

The total number of infections in New York is now 102,863 and the vast majority are in New York City

New York state coronavirus deaths rise by 562 in just 24 hours | Daily Mail Online

 

[Trudie]

Yes, I was at an open air vacuum & used a drive thru liquor establishment. I was also alone & did not touch, sneeze, cough on anyone. I wiped vacuum hose off prior and after using it.
Fyi: schools were and remain closed in my area. Why? Because children are vectors and should be kept home. Moo. Our playgrounds are closed. Why? To prevent children from spreading Covid.
Too many simply do not care.

FYI: the car wash was stacked with cars, it is a drive thru wash, no contact with anyone. Evidently it is considered essential. I didn’t wash, but I suppose clean windows to be essential for safe driving. Perhaps it is allowed to remain open because there is no F2F contact & the vacuum stations are quite separated.
My car was for sale since November, I had no contact with the buyer, other than phone, he knows where to drop my check and pick up his keys.

I don't understand all your criticism of the families. Assuming the car sale was truly necessary, you also describe:
- vacuaming out the car
- making a purchase of alcohol

In short, I think there is a temptation for all of us to define necessary as: Necessary adj: Things that I want to do are necessary. As I only want to do necessary things, everything I personally do is necessary.

 

[tresir2012]

I don't understand all your criticism of the families. Assuming the car sale was truly necessary, you also describe:
- vacuaming out the car
- making a purchase of alcohol

In short, I think there is a temptation for all of us to define necessary as: Necessary adj: Things that I want to do are necessary. As I only want to do necessary things, everything I personally do is necessary.

I completely agree. The word is "essential" which I don't see that selling or taking a vehicle for vacuuming as essential. The payment could also have been electronic. In the UK we cannot go out unless it is essential ie food medicine fuel vet tending animals etc. In fact, the vehicle washing and vacuuming places have all closed I noticed, when I went shopping today.

 

[Kensie]

AL at 11:45 am CST, 1352 cases , 22 deaths.

Made my last outing until after this peaks. Went to Walmart. High anxiety again. Many many bare shelves. A lot of folks shopping. Had the tip of my tongue to the roof of my mouth to keep from clenching my teeth.

I just don't understand why I am the only person in my household that is skilled enough to venture out and to take out the garbage. It really does not require any skill level. I am officially on strike. This is just too much anxiety for me. I will take the garbage out or else it will remain in the house. I am wiped out and exhausted and I still have a long work day ahead of me.

 

[tresir2012]

New York state coronavirus deaths rise by 562 - the highest increase in 24 hours - bringing the total to 2935 as cases surpass 100,000

The coronavirus death toll in the state of New York rose by 562 between Thursday and Friday to 2935

The total number of infections in New York is now 102,863 and the vast majority are in New York City

New York state coronavirus deaths rise by 562 in just 24 hours | Daily Mail Online

I have noticed the NY and UK death figures appear to be moving at a similar rate almost.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

More from @Snoods link:

Three convicted child rapists released from N.Y. prison during coronavirus outbreak: Report


“Patrick Phelan, the Greece chief of police, told the news outlet that releasing the sex offenders “doesn’t make any sense.”

“If you could present an argument to me that makes sense, I’m willing to listen. But this doesn’t make any sense,” Chief Phelan told WIVB.”

[...]

“In a statement released to the news channel, the Department of Corrections and Community Services said the decision to release inmates was based on the “underlying technical violation, not the original crime.”

ETA: What the hell does that even mean? “Underlying technical violation not the original crime...”

ETA2: Maybe @Tricia can post the above article on WS Facebook and everyone share it? That would be a huge start.

I’m an action kind of person. We can’t just “talk about it”. What are we going to DO about it? We have a “window of opportunity” here to stop this from happening further.

There are other options. People need jobs. Build Covid safe Isolation unit prisons, do something! Get ahead of this situation!

As I read that article the "underlying technical violation" was the violation of parole. Meaning, these were people who had qualified for and been granted parole, presumably through the normal process, and then had been returned to prison for violating that parole.

One thing I've been looking for in these released-prisoner articles, but not finding, is indication of how close they were to their time of release anyway. Even for a horrific crime, if they are within x time (say, six months maybe?) of being released anyway, that would be reasonable to me to give early release to reduce overcrowding. Don't freak out about the nature of the crime until we learn about those details. At least that's MOO.

I agree with this advice. I've been saving all my yogurt cups and other little containers I would normally take to recycling. I've got tomatoes, peppers and eggplants in dirt in yogurt cups in my kitchen window right now. I cut little spilt for drainage in the bottom before planting. All my seeds are old ones I have saved from past gardens, some from as long ago at 2007 but I'm hoping they grow this year more than ever because the online seed catalogues I normally order from are already sold out.

For anyone who can't get a hold of any seeds you can start growing items from your grocery produce. Seriously. Let a few potatoes grow eyes, slice them up and plant in a big bag of dirt. Keep the onion root ends and plant. Save seeds from peppers and squash and try to plant them. Organic produce is more likely to be able to grow from seeds in my experience but non-organic often works too.

I've got green onions in a cup of water on my kitchen county right now. I cut the green part to use for cooking and they keep regrowing. I change out the water every couple days to keep mold from growing on them.

For those who are seriously worried about a breakdown in the food production/distribution chain and who are looking to home gardens, may I respectfully suggest that one think about prioritizing calorie-heavy staple foods.

Not saying don't grow tomatoes and peppers if you like 'em, but if our food supply is seriously disrupted, we're going to want our gardens to be full of squash, potatoes, turnips, cabbage, fresh greens. Chickens/eggs. Nut trees will be an especially valuable source of natural fat. Got local dairy? Local honey? Local pork? Who grows sugar cane near you?

 

[jjenny]

I am ordering on-line so I don't have to venture out for shopping. You can also order on-line from restaurants using various delivery services, and request no contact delivery so they leave the food outside. Then get rid of containers and nuke the food for any virus killing.

 

[Trudie]

Besides protecting ourselves and our families from contracting the virus, sacrifice, respect and consideration for others is something we also need to focus on during the COVID-19 pandemic. If we don't stick together and do our very best to stay home, this virus will never go away and people we love will continue to die.

I am not okay with that, and I truly hope you are not either.



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Love this!

 

[Trino]

I cannot believe nor understand logic these days.
Re: cruise ship docking and aftermath. Passengers waited hours at airport for flight. THEN, mid-flight the test results came - 3 had the virus, others had symptoms. Think how many people they infected.
"...more than 350 Americans and Canadians were loaded on buses, where they waited for hours before boarding the chartered overnight flight to Atlanta."
"With no plan for quarantines after arrival and no other options, Bradbury said, they joined other travelers."
"Over 350 people who'd been in the confined space of a cruise ship continued with their journey in the even more confined space of a transatlantic flight."
"
A Florida man dies days after hundreds exposed to coronavirus walked around world's busiest airport - CNN

 

[Sillybilly]

I don't think it's just Canada.. The DA, as the task force stated allows Customs to stop and seize any or all exports. Now that not saying, we won't take care of our Canadian neighbors.

Moo...

PM Trudeau did his daily briefing today and in a somewhat understated fashion indicated that this matter is being dealt with between US Administration and Canada. He hinted that withdrawal of goods and services is a two way street. As of this morning, it sounds as if the issue is being worked out between the two countries.

 

[Kensie]

I cannot believe nor understand logic these days.
Re: cruise ship docking and aftermath. Passengers waited hours at airport for flight. THEN, mid-flight the test results came - 3 had the virus, others had symptoms. Think how many people they infected.
"...more than 350 Americans and Canadians were loaded on buses, where they waited for hours before boarding the chartered overnight flight to Atlanta."
"With no plan for quarantines after arrival and no other options, Bradbury said, they joined other travelers."
"Over 350 people who'd been in the confined space of a cruise ship continued with their journey in the even more confined space of a transatlantic flight."
"
A Florida man dies days after hundreds exposed to coronavirus walked around world's busiest airport - CNN

The horror just continues for these cruisers. I was horrified going to Walmart.

 

[jjenny]

I just find it ridiculous that so much emphasis was put on hand washing, and public was specifically told masks don't help and could hurt, when it appears the virus is likely airborne and could be transmitted by simply breathing or talking with an infected person (who might not even know they are infected yet). Hand washing is good in general, but how is it going to protect you fully from an airborne virus?
Why were we given such an awful advice?

 

[esmerelda]

The one salvation I guess is a lot of households will have much more money. I’m thinking of mom/dad both laid off from low paying jobs, each now getting UI + $1200, weekly. So a family that might have struggled on $1800 monthly now has $4800 plus state UI.
As I cruised home, I went thru a new upscale subdivision, just a normal pre Covid type day. I think very few kids are monitored and somewhere USA a pervert is cruising a hood. Idk why some people have kids......, never understood why. Moo

<snip>

I'm confused on the calculations here. Low paying jobs=lower UE benefits. Depending on the state benefits could be 200 a week. Not sure how much per dependent IIRC it was around 50 per kid. 1200 a week stimulus?? That is a one time payment, 2400 if both parents worked. The reason for this stimulus pay at all is based on staying home!! Its the incentive to stay home to stop the spread. There is a document pertaining to every country and I can't remember where I seen this last week that details plans for a pandemic. Everyone of them had an income payment for every working citizen. It's not a new idea, it's not something anyone came up with in recent months. There was a plan in place that guaranteed govt provided income for shelter in place.

 

[Trudie]

@esmerelda my post refers to the enhanced UI, which is $600 weekly plus the normal state UI based on income.
Moo

 

[Trudie]

The horror just continues for these cruisers. I was horrified going to Walmart.

I’m surprised they don’t die from the stress.

 

[esmerelda]

I just find it ridiculous that so much emphasis was put on hand washing, and public was specifically told masks don't help and could hurt, when it appears the virus is likely airborne and could be transmitted by simply breathing or talking with an infected person (who might not even know they are infected yet). Hand washing is good in general, but how is it going to protect you fully from an airborne virus?
Why were we given such an awful advice?

I dont know the answer, I'm thinking it was to save the supplies for hospital workers. This is a horrible failure. So many lives at stake

 

[esmerelda]

@esmerelda my post refers to the enhanced UI, which is $600 weekly plus the normal state UI based on income.
Moo

Gotcha! I understand now.

 

[jjenny]

I dont know the answer, I'm thinking it was to save the supplies for hospital workers. This is a horrible failure. So many lives at stake

If we had less people infected, we would need less PPE for hospital workers.

 

[Cryptic]

I completely agree. The word is "essential" which I don't see that selling or taking a vehicle for vacuuming as essential. The payment could also have been electronic. In the UK we cannot go out unless it is essential ie food medicine fuel vet tending animals etc. In fact, the vehicle washing and vacuuming places have all closed I noticed, when I went shopping today.

Here in the US, everything is decentralized to the state level. Even more confusing, some states initially delegated authority to each county.

As a result, there is no nation wide definition of "essential". Some states are on UK style lock downs. My state is not. In addition, my state has a broad definition of "essential" and parks etc. have remained open.