Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #43

[Tony1902]

@BUF, ma darlin, this is just health cafe professional qualified opinions, so I can’t link. But if you research what happened to pandemic prep in 2017-18 there may be a link.

 

[MimosaMornings]

I bank with WF and BofA - both have closed their lobbies. I was able to go online via my phone to WF website and pick a location for a family member - there was an option to make an appointment. I was able to do this at three different locations each in a separate state in the US.

 

[JerseyGirl]

New York's total number of deaths will be around 16,000 by August 1. This is due in large part to lack of PPE, appropriate medicines including Z-pacs, and lack of intensive care beds. They will need 10,000 ventilators and approximately that number of ICU beds to lower that number. They are no where close to receiving that (the Navy ship is for the NON-CV19 people who are dying/very ill with other things, like cancer or MS or are in diabetic comas because they can't get their meds/nutrition - but don't have CV).

IHME | COVID-19 Projections

(You'll have to select New York - if you open two windows you can look at Cali and New York side by side).

Yes, I do use the word Cali, as does most of my family, we are California natives.

16,000 New Yorkers out of 100,000-240,000 Americans expected to die of the virus. Stay safe America, there will be more hot spots all over.

 

[zecats]

Canada doesn't care which US leaders are acting like pirates. It has to stop.

"Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he’s very concerned about reports that medical supplies destined for Canada have been diverted to the U.S.

Trudeau has asked his public safety minister and transport minister to look into the reports. He says they need to make sure the personal protective equipment that was ordered in Canada makes it to Canada.

The prime minister says he’s working with the U.S. and is following up on this specific issue. He says he knows the needs are great in the U.S. but says it’s the same in Canada."
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Trudeau: Supplies for Canada diverted to U.S.

And that's similar situation to the ventilators ordered and paid for by the state of NY government, but then taken away by a higher bidder, including other states and FEMA. No one is playing fairly.


'We Are Broke:' NY Pays $25K Per Ventilator, Cuomo Says

 

[otto]

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Who diverted the supplies, the US government or private brokers. Likewise, I wonder if Bangladesh could afford what Canada paid for the items?

Nobody seems to have a monopoly on being the "good guys". Rather, there is a lot of grey.

This is the problem:

"The US has been accused of “modern piracy” after reportedly diverting a shipment of masks intended for the German police, and outbidding other countries in the increasingly fraught global market for coronavirus protective equipment.

About 200,000 N95 masks made by the manufacturer 3M were diverted to the US as they were being transferred between planes in Thailand, according to the Berlin authorities who had ordered the masks for the police force.

Andreas Geisel, the interior minister for Berlin state, described the diversion as “an act of modern piracy” and appealed to the German government to demand Washington conform to international trading rules. “This is no way to treat trans-Atlantic partners,” Geisel said. “Even in times of global crisis there should be no wild west methods.”
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US accused of 'modern piracy' after diversion of masks meant for Europe

 

[Alethea]

In the end, this could well be a moral grey area.

I doubt the Germans were going to send those masks to Africa. Likewise, the price the German offered price for the masks may well have been far above the income of nearly all Bangladeshis.

The brokers re-directing the masks did nothing that the Germans had not done. Rather, the Germans undoubtably out bid other potential customers in seeking out the equipment. They only got upset when they, themselves, were later out bid.

In the end, I don't think there are clear good guys and bad guys.

I think rent-seeking middle men brokers are clearly bad guys. They insert themselves into the supply chain to divert products when it’s not necessary. The ones I know defend themselves that they’re just doing business - but it’s unnecessary and just driving up prices. States or countries can buy from manufacturers without the help from some guy with a truck in Brooklyn.

 

[otto]

And that's similar situation to the ventilators ordered and paid for by the state of NY government, but then taken away by a higher bidder, including other states and FEMA. No one is playing fairly.

'We Are Broke:' NY Pays $25K Per Ventilator, Cuomo Says

If this pandemic has caused a wild west attitude in the US, that's up to the US. That does not mean it's okay for the US to act like pirates in the international community and ignore international trade rules.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

This Brooklyn Landlord Just Canceled Rent for Hundreds of Tenants

What a guy! Thanks, Mr. Salerno.

 

[Arkay]

First of all, alcohol is legal and hospitals do not need an overabundance of people coming in to emergency rooms with alcohol withdrawal while sitting next to possible coronavirus patients.

I completely understand. I still don't think it should be a priority, because I'm afraid it will lead non-drinkers to start drinking, as there's so little to do now and so few stores open.
Legality is not the issue. Schools, banks, restaurants, movies, shows, sports etc. are legal of course, but have been closed to keep people apart.
Everything non-essential to life is shuttered, and liquor is non-essential to life. So are my cigarettes and I'm preparing myself to go without when I have no more.
Let's just agree to disagree, and I want to thank you, @JerseyGirl, for all the work you are putting in running the NY and NJ threads.

 

[Cryptic]

This is the problem:

"The US has been accused of “modern piracy” after reportedly diverting a shipment of masks intended for the German police, and outbidding other countries in the increasingly fraught global market for coronavirus protective equipment.
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I guess the Germans were not going to donate the masks to Bangladesh. Instead, the Germans purchased them at a price that Bangladesh could not afford and were going to use them in Germany.

There is nothing wrong Germany purchasing masks for the German police- even if they could well have been purchased at a price that another country could not afford.

I just don't understand the following:

- It is ok for us (Germany) to purchase needed masks for Germany at prices others can not afford.
- But when somebody else needs the same supplies and actually outbids us, it becomes "Piracy".
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[tmar]

Anti-parasitic drug kills COVID-19 in lab

Christine McGinn
6 hrs ago
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© Shutterstock Representational Image An anti-parasitic drug available throughout the world has been found to kill COVID-19 in the lab within 48 hours.

A Monash University-led study has shown a single dose of the drug Ivermectin could stop the SARS-CoV-2 virus growing in cell culture.

"We found that even a single dose could essentially remove all viral RNA (effectively removed all genetic material of the virus) by 48 hours and that even at 24 hours there was a really significant reduction in it," Monash Biomedicine Discovery Institute's Dr Kylie Wagstaff said on Friday.


While it's not known how Ivermectin works on the virus, the drug likely stops the virus dampening the host cells' ability to clear it.

The next step is for scientists to determine the correct human dosage, to make sure the level used in vitro is safe for humans.
"In times when we're having a global pandemic and there isn't an approved treatment, if we had a compound that was already available around the world then that might help people sooner," Dr Wagstaff said.

"Realistically it's going to be a while before a vaccine is broadly available."

Before Ivermectin can be used to combat coronavirus, funding is needed to get it to pre-clinical testing and clinical trials.

Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug also shown to be effective in vitro against viruses including HIV, dengue and influenza.
The study is the joint work of Monash Biomedicine Discovery Institute and the Peter Doherty Institute of Infection and Immunity.

The study findings have been published in Antiviral Research.

 

[Trudie]

Stay at home: guidance for households with possible coronavirus (COVID-19) infection

This is interesting, some suggestions are dif’ than the US.
Moo

 

[Simply Southern]

And I posted a link to an updated article which was 100% deflected because it doesn't fit the narrative.

The article complaining about the Comfort only having 20 patients. My comment was...its up to someone in NY city to access each hospital for number of patients that can be transferred and make arrangements to move them. The Comfort can't just go out and start visiting hospitals seeking patients

There are many that could be transferred cancer patients, gallbladder, heart, stroke and the list goes on.

In times of crisis, most look for solutions and are grateful for any and all help. Just not seeing that with these NY city folks.

The SP article is just another in a long line of complaints about those trying to help.

Moo...

 

[Trudie]

Anti-parasitic drug kills COVID-19 in lab

Christine McGinn
6 hrs ago
...

© Shutterstock Representational Image An anti-parasitic drug available throughout the world has been found to kill COVID-19 in the lab within 48 hours.

A Monash University-led study has shown a single dose of the drug Ivermectin could stop the SARS-CoV-2 virus growing in cell culture.

"We found that even a single dose could essentially remove all viral RNA (effectively removed all genetic material of the virus) by 48 hours and that even at 24 hours there was a really significant reduction in it," Monash Biomedicine Discovery Institute's Dr Kylie Wagstaff said on Friday.


While it's not known how Ivermectin works on the virus, the drug likely stops the virus dampening the host cells' ability to clear it.

The next step is for scientists to determine the correct human dosage, to make sure the level used in vitro is safe for humans.
"In times when we're having a global pandemic and there isn't an approved treatment, if we had a compound that was already available around the world then that might help people sooner," Dr Wagstaff said.

"Realistically it's going to be a while before a vaccine is broadly available."

Before Ivermectin can be used to combat coronavirus, funding is needed to get it to pre-clinical testing and clinical trials.

Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug also shown to be effective in vitro against viruses including HIV, dengue and influenza.
The study is the joint work of Monash Biomedicine Discovery Institute and the Peter Doherty Institute of Infection and Immunity.

The study findings have been published in Antiviral Research.

Interesting. I am not fond of ivermectin for this reason:

Ivermectin is an amazing medication used to kill many different types of parasites. ... Certain breeds such as the Border Collie are genetically hypersensitive to the medication. In these breeds, Ivermectin can pass directly to the brain and be toxic or even lethal.
https://www.facebook.com/Bluecollie...an-amazing-medication-used-t/593861500638116/
IVERMECTIN TOXICITY IN BORDER COLLIES - Facebook
But if it kills Covid I’m all for it.

 

[Cryptic]

I think rent-seeking middle men brokers are clearly bad guys. They insert themselves into the supply chain to divert products when it’s not necessary.

Many people in the US would argue that the US needs masks- just like the Germans need masks.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Anti-parasitic drug kills COVID-19 in lab

Christine McGinn
6 hrs ago
...


© Shutterstock Representational Image An anti-parasitic drug available throughout the world has been found to kill COVID-19 in the lab within 48 hours.

A Monash University-led study has shown a single dose of the drug Ivermectin could stop the SARS-CoV-2 virus growing in cell culture.

"We found that even a single dose could essentially remove all viral RNA (effectively removed all genetic material of the virus) by 48 hours and that even at 24 hours there was a really significant reduction in it," Monash Biomedicine Discovery Institute's Dr Kylie Wagstaff said on Friday.


While it's not known how Ivermectin works on the virus, the drug likely stops the virus dampening the host cells' ability to clear it.

The next step is for scientists to determine the correct human dosage, to make sure the level used in vitro is safe for humans.
"In times when we're having a global pandemic and there isn't an approved treatment, if we had a compound that was already available around the world then that might help people sooner," Dr Wagstaff said.

"Realistically it's going to be a while before a vaccine is broadly available."

Before Ivermectin can be used to combat coronavirus, funding is needed to get it to pre-clinical testing and clinical trials.

Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug also shown to be effective in vitro against viruses including HIV, dengue and influenza.
The study is the joint work of Monash Biomedicine Discovery Institute and the Peter Doherty Institute of Infection and Immunity.

The study findings have been published in Antiviral Research.

I have literally just lost the ability to think.

Will this deal with the double pneumonia as well, or is the pneumonia now a separate issue?

Jmo

 

[JerseyGirl]

@Silly Billy
Can you tell me why my post was deleted or where it went?
It’s was about bio-dynamic gardening, cut and come again lettuce, spinach, and Stella Natura calendar & 3 sisters’ planting of corn, beans and squash. Can’t find it.

Did you check here? Quarantine Vegetable Gardens

 

[Trudie]

Kentucky coronavirus: Some residents are refusing to self-isolate to wear ankle monitors - CNN

 

[tresir2012]

The 1,000-Bed Comfort Was Supposed to Aid New York. It Has 20 Patients. (NYT)

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On Thursday, though, the huge white vessel, which officials had promised would bring succor to a city on the brink, sat mostly empty, infuriating executives at local hospitals. The ship’s 1,000 beds are largely unused, its 1,200-member crew mostly idle.

Only 20 patients had been transferred to the ship, officials said, even as New York hospitals struggled to find space for the thousands infected with the coronavirus. Another Navy hospital ship, the U.S.N.S. Mercy, docked in Los Angeles, has had a total of 15 patients, officials said.

“If I’m blunt about it, it’s a joke,” said Michael Dowling, the head of Northwell Health, New York’s largest hospital system. “Everyone can say, ‘Thank you for putting up these wonderful places and opening up these cavernous halls.’ But we’re in a crisis here, we’re in a battlefield.”
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I don't understand the criticisms. The fact they have capacity is good. As the regular wards have to convert to CV19 wards, the regular patients will move to the ships. I guess the person doing the criticism would rather look after regular patients than CV19 patients.

 

[Tony1902]

@tmar great thanks. Asking DH & local pharm if it’s available here in the end of nowhere.