Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #46

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  • #901
I bought a huge batch of cards several weeks ago, when Papyrus was going out of business :(. Availability was spotty depending upon theme; so I was happy to run away with three Easter cards, lol. I'm also set for 7 years of Mother's and Father's Day cards, for example; and a goodly handful of occasional cards. :p I felt SO sorry for the store, everyone's loved the cards I bought from them, but on the bright side for the consumer, I got cards as costly as, in one instance, $14.95 (!) for 99 cents.
Papyrus went out of business? I love that store. :(
 
  • #902
Reminds me of the folded cheese-cloth mask that was recommended in 1918.

"‘CDC is additionally advising the use of simple cloth face coverings to slow the spread of the virus and help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others,’ the CDC says in a statement on its website.
  • ‘cloth face coverings fashioned from household items or made at home from common materials at low cost can be used as an additional, voluntary public health measure.’
  • ‘the cloth face coverings recommended are not surgical masks or n95 respirators,’ adams added on friday.
  • ‘those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders.’"
CDC shows you how to make your own face mask in 45 seconds

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/spanish-flu-covid-coronavirus-canada-manitoba-1.5523410

When it comes to survival, nothing has changed in the last 100 years.
 
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  • #903
I would like to share a story of my husbands friend who went into severe respiratory distress in the hospital and almost died from covid. He was just recently released from the hospital and is still on oxygen.

After 2 days of a high fever, he started vomitting and direaha. Along with that he started having the shortness of breath and couldnt breathe. His wife called 911 and an ambulance refused treatment. The next day he somehow drove himself to the hospital and went to the ER. He was admitted to the hospital and put in a room with another covid patient. He said once he was in the room, his condition worsened. The patient next to him died 5 hours after he was there. No one came in the room for the patient that passed away for hours. When they finally came in and removed the patient, my husband friend was in and out of consciousness but heard the doctors saying that he will probably pass in a few hours. They then brought in a new patient. The new patient same thing, all the machines were beeping and somehow my husbands friend got out of bed and sat on a chair and held the patients hand till he passed away. He stayed there for hours with the dead patient cause he didnt have the energy to get back to his bed. During the duration of his hospital stay he witnessed numerous patients pass away. He miraculously survived, although the doctors didnt expect him to. On the final day, that he thought would be his last, he begged doctors for the hydrochlorine meds. The doctor told him it could kill him. He said he didnt care and wanted it. He said after 2 days of receiving the meds, his breathing started to become somewhat normal and he started to get more strength. After a few days, he was released back home. He is home now and still receiving oxygen.

This story basically scared the **** out of me! Everyone stay safe! Wear your masks at all times. :(
"On the final day, that he thought would be his last, he begged doctors for the hydrochlorine meds. The doctor told him it could kill him. He said he didnt care and wanted it. He said after 2 days of receiving the meds, his breathing started to become somewhat normal and he started to get more strength. After a few days, he was released back home."

I have read this similar story about a dozen times. I know it is just anecdotal---but it seems that some people have had very good results, when things looked very bleak. Makes me feel hopeful.
 
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  • #905
"On the final day, that he thought would be his last, he begged doctors for the hydrochlorine meds. The doctor told him it could kill him. He said he didnt care and wanted it. He said after 2 days of receiving the meds, his breathing started to become somewhat normal and he started to get more strength. After a few days, he was released back home."

I have read this similar story about a dozen times. I know it is just anecdotal---but it seems that some people have had very good results, when things looked very bleak. Makes me feel hopeful.

In my husbands job, I believe there is about over 60 officers that are covid positive. The couple of co-workers that he has spoken to, so far, have all been successfully treated or being treated with hydroxychloroquine. I also have 3 family members that were treated with it. :)
 
  • #906
  • #907
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A hospital worker in front of a refrigerated truck at Kingsbrook Jewish Medical Center in Brooklyn on Saturday.Credit...Kevin Hagen for The New York Times

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“Other updates from the governor’s Sunday briefing:

  • 8,236 new people tested positive for the coronavirus, bringing the total statewide to 188,694.

  • 103,208 of those people are in New York City, where 4,900 new positive cases were reported on Sunday.

  • The number of people newly hospitalized, 53, was “the lowest number since we started doing these charts,” Mr. Cuomo said. The total number of people currently hospitalized statewide is now 18,707.

  • 189 new patients were admitted to intensive care units, bringing the statewide total to 5,198.

  • 110 more patients have been intubated, for a statewide total of 4,449.

  • 1,862 people were discharged from New York hospitals.”

Coronavirus Kills 758 in New York but Data Suggest Spread Is Slowing
Updated April 13, 2020, 12:08 a.m. ET

“Mr. Cuomo again criticized federal action responding to the coronavirus, saying that money had been misdirected, and that states that were less hard-hit had been given a disproportionate amount of funding.

He said that he would sign an executive order on Sunday that would direct employers at essential businesses to provide employees with cloth or surgical face masks to wear when interacting with the public.”
 
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  • #908
Papyrus went out of business? I love that store. :(

Sadly yes!! At least one of them, and assuming more, looks as if it's being replaced by something called "The Paper Store", however, so all hope is not lost. (Or, maybe that should be "was"... I last saw the store with the poster advertising it in one of the former-Papyrus windows pre-quarantine. I have no idea how that company is doing now. :()
 
  • #909
@firebird

It was Riverview in South Jersey. I think he drove to the nearest one from his home.

I'm originally from North Jersey and love Hackensack, which I think Riverview is now owned by, so I was surprised of what he went through. There are so many great hospitals in NJ. I am now in Warren County of NJ and now go to the Lehigh Valley in PA.

The town I grew up in is next to Red Bank, where Riverview is located. Riverview is now Meridian Health.

Hackensack, Jersey Shore and Riverview are now Meridian Health
 
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  • #910
“Colorado has surpassed 7,000 total confirmed cases of the novel coronavirus, according to new data released Sunday, as the number of deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the state nears 300.

Confirmed coronavirus cases in the state rose to 7,303 with 410 new infections confirmed through testing, the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment reported on its website.”

More than 7,000 coronavirus cases confirmed in Colorado as total deaths near 300

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Coronavirus Cases Continue To Rise In Colorado With Outbreaks At Residential Facilities

“Health officials believe the true number of cases could be 10 times more than the 7,303 confirmed on Sunday. That’s because there isn’t widespread testing and so many people could be asymptomatic.”

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Family Of Saul Sanchez Blames JBS Plant After Coronavirus Death As Cases Increase

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O/T, very cold and snowy today:
2020 is Denver's coldest Easter since at least 1937
 
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  • #911
So I’ve got a potato issue.

I’m grateful to have potatoes that the shopper was able to find but they’re not the “protected” kind in the non-net bag,

They’re sitting in the doorway in a closed box. I personally have avoided fresh produce bc it is exposed, moo. I’m buying frozen/jar and cleaning the packaging then transferring it to my own ziplocks, etc if I can. I learned that otherwise I still feel the need to watch my hands even after cleaning the packages, etc. because I feel grossed out or unsure that I got every inch of the surface (the doctor’s “glitter” analogy again comes to mind). Everyone might not go as overboard as me but like I said I’m about the “peace of mind”. I don’t want to have to wash my hands every time I touch something out of my fridge.

Yeah, so anyway, potatoes are sitting there in the doorway. How long does CV live on a potato? o_O I’m not touching them for a while. I know they’ll be okay after boiling but still.
I don’t want to touch them to even clean them or bring them in my kitchen til I know the virus is dead. I’ll wait.

Can I wash the outsides with soap and water in a few days then cut the skin off? Will it soak up the soap? I will wear gloves.

I know I sound like a nutcase. I am.


ETA:

I disinfect items at the door before I bring them into the kitchen if they have to come in immediately.

I bring a small tub with bleach and hot water to the doorway (with gloves on).

First the items get wiped with the bleach water or “take a dip”, depending on the container.

Then they go into a different tub where I then bring them into the kitchen to wash with soap and water.

Then I change out the packaging if I can.

All to be sure not to cross contaminate anything while wearing/ switching out gloves.

Oh I also have a separate box outside the door where exterior packaging gets dumped, say the cardboard around a lunch meat packet.

Also, delivery boxes don’t come in. I open them at the doorway with gloves, then put the items like the sealed jars, cans, packages etc in the bleach tub.

Also, when I transfer certain things to the ziplocks, etc., I create small portions with rationing in mind.

If I hadn’t rationed so far I would’ve been in trouble because there was a very long delivery wait. Who knows how long we’ll be here...I am rationing. Logistics and delivery is obviously an issue.
When I shopped the time before last about 3 weeks ago, I bought a 25 lb bag of potatoes on offer in a paper sack with the string closure. I stuck the bag in a corner of the kitchen. When I opened it a few days later the potatoes were good but incredibly muddy. So when I want potatoes I have to hand wash them in my washing up bowl, to get the mud off, I use warm water , no soap, chuck away the muddy water then put them in clean water before I actually then peel them. Then they are rinsed again in clean water before boiling in fresh water as usual. I think that should get rid of any germs. These potatoes are great but made me realise the bagged store ones must be pre washed as they are generally pretty clean. You should do similar with your boxed potatoes but don't use any soap except on your hands before and after you have finished preparing them.
MOO.
 
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  • #913
Trump retweeted a threat to fire Fauci after he said the US's slow response to COVID-19 has cost lives

  • On Sunday, President Donald Trump retweeted a call to fire Dr. Anthony Fauci to his 76.8 million followers.
  • The tweet was in response to Dr. Fauci telling CNN earlier in the day that "no one is going to deny" that lives could have been saved if the US implemented containment measures earlier on in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
  • It comes one week after Trump stopped Dr. Fauci from weighing in on what he thought about using hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug, on patients with COVID-19.
  • It's not clear whether it's more than a threat, but Trump has fired several prominent public servants over the last few weeks.
  • ...
 
  • #914
Trump retweeted a threat to fire Fauci after he said the US's slow response to COVID-19 has cost lives

  • On Sunday, President Donald Trump retweeted a call to fire Dr. Anthony Fauci to his 76.8 million followers.
  • The tweet was in response to Dr. Fauci telling CNN earlier in the day that "no one is going to deny" that lives could have been saved if the US implemented containment measures earlier on in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
  • It comes one week after Trump stopped Dr. Fauci from weighing in on what he thought about using hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug, on patients with COVID-19.
  • It's not clear whether it's more than a threat, but Trump has fired several prominent public servants over the last few weeks.
  • ...

:eek:

@JerseyGirl

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Fauci: ‘Extraordinary Risk’ of Further COVID Spread If US Reopens Too

“The top U.S. infectious disease expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, warned Sunday there is an “extraordinary risk” of the further spread of the ravaging coronavirus if the United States is reopened to business and returned to a sense of normalcy too quickly on May 1, as President Donald Trump is considering.”

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Trump Lashes Out at Fauci Amid Criticism of Slow Virus Response

“Mr. Trump reposted a Twitter message that said “Time to #FireFauci” as he rejected criticism of his slow initial response to the pandemic that has now killed more than 22,000 people in the United States. The president privately has been irritated at times with Dr. Fauci, but the Twitter post was the most explicit he has been in letting that show publicly.

The message Mr. Trump retweeted came from a former Republican congressional candidate. “Fauci is now saying that had Trump listened to the medical experts earlier he could’ve saved more lives,” said the tweet by DeAnna Lorraine, who got less than 2 percent of the vote in an open primary against Speaker Nancy Pelosi last month. “Fauci was telling people on February 29th that there was nothing to worry about and it posed no threat to the US at large. Time to #Fire Fauci.””

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“The tweet came amid a flurry of messages blasted out by the president on Sunday defending his handling of the coronavirus, which has come under sharp criticism, and pointing the finger instead at China, the World Health Organization, President Barack Obama, the nation’s governors, Congress, Democrats generally and the news media.”

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Trump Signals Frustration With Fauci Amid Criticism of Slow Virus Response

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Trump retweets #firefauci tweet, fueling speculation of a frayed relationship with Dr. Fauci
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1 hour ago

“Trump retweets #firefauci tweet, raising speculation of a frayed relationship
President Trump sparked speculation about his relationship with the country's top disease expert Sunday night after he retweeted a post that called for the doctor's job.

Trump used statements from Dr. Anthony Fauci in February in an effort to prove that a recent New York Times report that said he was slow to act on the coronavirus outbreak was "fake news."

Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, was asked about the report on CNN and admitted that earlier action could have saved more lives. The Times' report said Trump played down the seriousness of the virus throughout January.”

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China stifles coronavirus research in apparent bid to control narrative, analysts say

“The news outlet noted that China’s President Xi Jinping published an essay in March that included “tracing the origin of the virus” a national priority; the science and technology ministry referenced the essay shortly before the universities changed tunes.

On New Year’s Eve, China informed the World Health Organization of a “mysterious pneumonia outbreak” spreading through Wuhan, an industrial city of 11 million.”

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“The Pentagon was said to have first learned about the new coronavirus in December from open-source reports emanating from China. By early January, warnings about the virus had made their way into intelligence reports circulating around the government. On Jan. 3, the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC], Robert Redfield, received a call from his Chinese counterpart with an official warning.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious disease expert, said he was alerted to the virus around the same time — and within two weeks was fearful it could bring about a global catastrophe.”
 
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:eek:


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Fauci: ‘Extraordinary Risk’ of Further COVID Spread If US Reopens Too

“The top U.S. infectious disease expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, warned Sunday there is an “extraordinary risk” of the further spread of the ravaging coronavirus if the United States is reopened to business and returned to a sense of normalcy too quickly on May 1, as President Donald Trump is considering.”

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Trump Lashes Out at Fauci Amid Criticism of Slow Virus Response
I'm about to go to sleep and can't think clearly now but wow, I fear something bad will happen soon. See you all tomorrow.
 
  • #916
I don't know. Maybe it was outpatient at a clinic and she returned home? I just know she is no longer in the hospital for the treatment.

I will ask my DIL later for clarity.

There are portable machines, I googled it after reading the OP.
 
  • #917
The other day I heard Dr. Fauci say, and paraphrasing moo, that all he can do is his best to try to advise the President.

I wonder if DT is trying to open things back up and Dr. Fauci is trying to ask for restraint and caution, and this is causing one of the conflicts.
 
  • #918
There has been a concerted campaign for several weeks in certain media quarters <modsnip: not an approved source at WS> to undermine Dr Fauci and besmirch his good name...a man who has served six presidents. I have posted links about this before and they are easily googled. Apparently the campaign is having the desired effect if this retweet by the president is an indication. If Dr. Fauci is fired from the task force it would be a sad day for this country. However, he will not have compromised his reputation as a scientist and as a man who speaks truth, so being fired is in no way a disgrace for Dr Fauci.
JMO
 
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  • #919
Trump retweets #firefauci tweet, raises speculation of a frayed relationship

From the article

Trump seized on Lorraine’s tweet as evidence of “fake news,” from the Times. Trump implied that if there were widespread concerns about the virus in the White House in January, surely Fauci would have known in late February.

"Sorry Fake News, it's all on tape. I banned China long before people spoke up," Trump tweeted, before thanking One News Network. Trump's tweet linked to Lorraine's tweet that called for Fauci's ouster.


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1249470237726081030

Sorry Fake News, it’s all on tape. I banned China long before people spoke up. Thank you @OANN https://twitter.com/deanna4congress/status/1249457858686656512 …

DeAnna Lorraine

@DeAnna4Congress

Fauci is now saying that had Trump listened to the medical experts earlier he could've saved more lives.

Fauci was telling people on February 29th that there was nothing to worry about and it posed no threat to the US public at large.

Time to #FireFauci...


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Fauci was on NBC News’ “Today” on Feb. 29, the date Lorraine mentioned, and talked about the “community spread” of the coronavirus. The virus, at that time, was known to be in Italy and China. Fauci was asked if Americans should change their way of life and he said, “there is no need to change what you are doing on a day-by-day basis.” But he said that could change.
 
  • #920
Yeah wth moo going to bed.
 
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