Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #47

[BHughes]

Florida inmate freed over coronavirus concerns linked to murder 1 day after release: authorities

"Williams has a long history of past offenses, including for burglary and possession of a firearm, having been arrested some 35 times, the sheriff’s office said."

I just don't get it.......

 

[anneg]

My daughter, aged 39 at that time, was diagnosed and in hospital in 2007 from Ecoli 157. She received dialysis of her kidneys and plasma foresis of her blood and was on a ventilator for TWO MONTHS. She awoke and to this day is doing fine. Miracles happen every day. And for all those who don’t make it, and there are many, we do hear of those who survive. Never give up and never stop praying for a loved one!

Wow! That's an amazing story, so glad that she survived and is doing well.

I have a miracle story to share as well. Years ago, my DH became very ill with what turned out to be a serious bacterial infection that led to sepsis and affected his heart. He was hospitalized and then was moved to the CCU and put on full life support. He was on the ventilator for the next 3 1/2 weeks. He had a stroke and had to have dialysis for a while. A very scary time.

Our son came as often as he could (he and his family lived 8 hours away) and was a huge support to me, along with other family members, local friends, and our church. There was a lot of praying going on!

After about 3 weeks the infection was stabilized and he had open-heart surgery to replace his ruined aortic valve. Thank God, the surgery went well. It took another 4 days to wean him off the vent. He had no idea what had been going on for the previous month! He remained in the hospital for about 2 weeks post surgery, then spent another month in a different hospital with an excellent rehabilitation unit.

It was a long haul but he is alive and well today.

 

[tresir2012]

15, 482 cases and 364 deaths as of today. Sure sounds like Texas should go back to normal (not).

A leaked plan by FEMA and the CDC would reopen the US in phases, starting in May with schools and then parks and religious institutions

Did you see this? I noticed it was linked in the article. Regarding Texas, it was not going back to normal but reopening some businesses.

 

[Tillicum]

Where (in general) are you? If you are in a place like where I live (suburb in hills north of L.A.), CV rates are very low. My DH still won't let me go and we're both planning to wait until the cases decline more.

Do you have to go on a weekend? Is there a small independent market where you can go early in the morning? Do you have a good mask?

South central Ohio. 6 cases in my county, 20 in county I need to shop in. We have construction masks, not N95s. I think I'll probably wait it out a little longer. We eat a special diet and if we go off it, it's pretty miserable for several days after so I want to avoid that. Better that than COVID-19 though.

 

[10ofRods]

Now, this is interesting. Would this apply to all public buildings? What about federal government buildings? State law vs. Federal law?

I would think it would apply to all public buildings. Federal Buildings are typically required to follow or exceed all local ordinances (and there are many). National Parks have to follow the laws of the states they are in, as well, and I would think Federal Buildings are the same way.

Public may be defined differently, state by state, but usually it's anywhere outside your actual house (where I live, even our backyard is treated as "public" by LE, so that if your neighbor reports they saw a suspicious person in their yard who hopped the fence into your yard, LE could follow - and they do follow runaway suspects through people's yards).

By the way - I sort of get why the South Dakota governor is doing that, that's very few cases and deaths. 1.5% dead out of diagnosed cases isn't too bad. Really low infection rate. Hope it stays that way - he can kind of play it by ear and see what happens. I worry about the Native people though.

 

[10ofRods]

A leaked plan by FEMA and the CDC would reopen the US in phases, starting in May with schools and then parks and religious institutions

Did you see this? I noticed it was linked in the article.

Why the heck would they start with schools? Unless they're going to have staggered schedules. I'd think they'd start with parks (and limiting numbers of people who can enter and the kind of groups who enter).

Why not religious institutions first and see how it goes? We'd learn a lot from that experience and it's a voluntary experience (as are parks).

What am I missing here?

 

[SuziQ]

No, that's not it.

Raw milk cannot be sold to the public in many places (no way will I have raw milk in a refrigerator with everything else). Farmers milk cows, but they do not process the milk.

The processing plants are shut down.

Raw Milk Questions and Answers

You'd have to be okay with those risks to use it. Anti-vaxxer types sometimes prefer it (good luck to them), but giving it to poorer people in need of food, who probably already live in crowded conditions, have less access to healthcare and when hospitals are already overwhelmed, would just add to this disaster.

Dairies and farmers feed and milk cows. They do not handle the very strict pasteurization process.

Why are the processing plants shut down? Have they been hit with Covid like the meat plants have? Just trying to understand what is happening here. Fresh fruit and veggies are being dumped as well?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

My daughter, aged 39 at that time, was diagnosed and in hospital in 2007 from Ecoli 157. She received dialysis of her kidneys and plasma foresis of her blood and was on a ventilator for TWO MONTHS. She awoke and to this day is doing fine. Miracles happen every day. And for all those who don’t make it, and there are many, we do hear of those who survive. Never give up and never stop praying for a loved one!

I Believe in Miracles
Just sayin’

eta: these people say they received a miracle. all posted today or yesterday
Oregon woman’s family started planning her funeral, then she recovered from coronavirus in ‘absolute miracle’

Pregnant NHS nurse, 28, who died of coronavirus named as miracle baby survives

COVID-19: 107-year-old Turkish woman makes miracle recovery | The Express Tribune

Coronavirus replace: Miracle child who survived coronary heart situation fights for all times after being struck with COVID - GlobalNewshut

‘I’m a miracle walking’: A woman gave birth in a coma while fighting coronavirus

'A miracle:' From coma and ventilator, Cedar Rapids man recovers from coronavirus

Lung Cancer Survivor, 72, Beats COVID-19 | SurvivorNet

She’s 97 with diabetes, heart disease and more. Coronavirus should have taken her. Instead, ‘she’s a miracle.’

Westland coronavirus survivor grateful for nurses, socks, return home from hospital

‘Miracle’ Pa. man, 89, beats COVID-19, despite diabetes, high blood pressure and needing ventilator

Easter miracle - heart transplant success

With positivity and peace, Worland woman survives near-fatal coronavirus infection

 

[gngr~snap]

Now, this is interesting. Would this apply to all public buildings? What about federal government buildings? State law vs. Federal law?

Are Federal and State buildings even open now?
Ours in GA are locked down tight.
Moo

 

[Hanyuu]

Mayor Goodman calls business shutdown ‘total insanity’

Would we call Mayor Goodman a "Pandemic Denier"? She opposed closing casinos and schools. It was the governor of Nevada who called for the shutdown of casinos.

As someone who lives in Las Vegas, I feel it was the right call for our Governor to shut everything down. I believe that it could be so much worse here if he hadn't. I want things back to normal just as much as the next person, my husband works in the gaming industry and this has hit us financially. But I want things open when it is the right time. To open any sooner than that would be ridiculous.

 

[tresir2012]

Now, this is interesting. Would this apply to all public buildings? What about federal government buildings? State law vs. Federal law?

From what I read it was anywhere you cannot keep a 6 foot distance, so narrow pavements, transportation etc. They will enforce it but you won't go to prison. Which is good as they are letting everyone out anyway.

 

[NuttMegg]

A leaked plan by FEMA and the CDC would reopen the US in phases, starting in May with schools and then parks and religious institutions

Did you see this? I noticed it was linked in the article. Regarding Texas, it was not going back to normal but reopening some businesses.

I don't have any school aged kids, but good luck in sending them straight back to school as guinea pigs if I did have them. The government wants their parents to go back to work, and the only way is get the kids in school.

From your link "The agencies nevertheless acknowledged the plan "will entail a significant risk of resurgence of the virus."
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"Other top experts have also warned against reopening the country too early. Dr. Ashish Jha, the director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, told Business Insider's Charles Davis last week: "Our testing infrastructure, which was abysmal, is now mediocre, but nowhere near adequate for opening up."

 

[Yesiamapirate]

I don't have any school aged kids, but good luck in sending them straight back to school as guinea pigs if I did have them. The government wants their parents to go back to work, and the only way is get the kids in school.

Agreed! And what about the schools in area's like mine, Michigan that have closed for the year already?

 

[ilovewings]

Florida inmate freed over coronavirus concerns linked to murder 1 day after release: authorities

well that is just terrific

 

[CSIDreamer]

Why the heck would they start with schools? Unless they're going to have staggered schedules. I'd think they'd start with parks (and limiting numbers of people who can enter and the kind of groups who enter).

Why not religious institutions first and see how it goes? We'd learn a lot from that experience and it's a voluntary experience (as are parks).

What am I missing here?

I think they're starting with schools so parents can go back to work? My speculation.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Agreed! And what about the schools in area's like mine, Michigan that have closed for the year already?

Indiana has too. At this point, I see no need to reopen them. Jmo

 

[10ofRods]

I think they're starting with schools so parents can go back to work? My speculation.

Yeah - I guess so (and because kids really aren't dying in big numbers, right?)

So teachers will become the next occupational group to be impacted. Most districts will be need to offer medically compromised/at risk teachers the option to stay out of the classroom (huge liability since the risk factors are well established). Para-educators will need to be employed and trained quickly.

It will be interesting to see if it's just K-12 and not the colleges/universities (who have some ability to function independently). That will be quite telling about the level of risk they expect K-12 teachers to take. There will be a high need for substitutes, as teachers get sick (N95 masks and goggles for teachers? Really? Does FEMA have those things, I wonder?)

Or are teachers supposed to wear bandanas? Cotton masks? Oof. Not good for prolonged exposure with asymptomatic carriers, which is what kids are.

 

[tresir2012]

No, that's not it.

Raw milk cannot be sold to the public in many places (no way will I have raw milk in a refrigerator with everything else). Farmers milk cows, but they do not process the milk.

The processing plants are shut down.

Raw Milk Questions and Answers

You'd have to be okay with those risks to use it. Anti-vaxxer types sometimes prefer it (good luck to them), but giving it to poorer people in need of food, who probably already live in crowded conditions, have less access to healthcare and when hospitals are already overwhelmed, would just add to this disaster.

Dairies and farmers feed and milk cows. They do not handle the very strict pasteurization process.

There has been a post mentioning a cheese program to supply a charity food distributor but can't find it now. I am also wondering why the dairy can't make the milk into Long Life milk (I.e. UHT milk) and give it away also, or make it into long life flavoured milk. It is a terrible waste.

 

[mickey2942]

The issue of schools is going to be interesting. In the CARE act, if an employee has to stay home to take care of a child, as there is no school or daycare available, apparently an employer has to pay the employees salary at 2/3 rate for up to ten weeks. Something like that...not sure of exact wording.

 

[10ofRods]

From what I read it was anywhere you cannot keep a 6 foot distance, so narrow pavements, transportation etc. They will enforce it but you won't go to prison. Which is good as they are letting everyone out anyway.

Well, here's what I am thinking. It's not spoken about directly in most of the planning.

People in the US aged 50 or over at the ones at high risk. Almost everyone else is not at risk, so much. So it will be up to those of us who are older and/or at medical risk just to protect ourselves.

This could lead to herd immunity. The at risk would still be at risk, though, even with some herd immunity established. Why don't they just say that workers who are 50-67 are the ones who are going to be screwed by this in one way or another? They can't lower the age of retirement (although they should) for many reasons.

Hey - think of the benefits! We lower life expectancy, we don't have to pay as much in MediCare or Social Security, the people who wanted to lower those benefits anyway will be happy! Everybody wins! And the Dead don't care or vote, right??!?

Is that what we've become? I do see this attitude among younger people, perhaps it's a majority view.